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He15man · 07-02-2012, 02:01 AM

I wouldn't mind Camby coming in for defense if we get Deron.

PG. Deron Williams
SG. Brandon Roy
SF. Shawn Marion
PF. Dirk Nowitzki
C. Marcus Camby

alby · 07-02-2012, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by He15man

I wouldn't mind Camby coming in for defense if we get Deron.

PG. Deron Williams
SG. Brandon Roy
SF. Shawn Marion
PF. Dirk Nowitzki
C. Marcus Camby

That would be one hell of a playoff starting 5.

He15man · 07-02-2012, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

That would be one hell of a playoff starting 5.

I don't know how it would work money wise(if it even would) but that would be a solid starting 5.

Dtownsfinest · 07-02-2012, 07:55 AM

How did we go from Brandon Roy's career being over to having him being in our starting 5? I thought his knees were completely gone?

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Originally Posted by He15man

I wouldn't mind Camby coming in for defense if we get Deron.

PG. Deron Williams
SG. Brandon Roy
SF. Shawn Marion
PF. Dirk Nowitzki
C. Marcus Camby

I can't imagine this team trying to sell this lineup to Deron. All guys in their mid to late 30's with Brandon Roy being on bum knees?

Would've been deadly 4 years ago though.

oilfieldtrash · 07-02-2012, 08:07 AM

All we can sell Deron is playing with Dirk and having faith that a proven front office is going to be able to surround him with the pieces he needs to win in the future.

Underdog · 07-02-2012, 08:09 AM

Raptors, Mavericks, Nets Express Interest In Jeremy Lin

dude1394 · 07-02-2012, 08:14 AM

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Raptors, Mavericks, Nets Express Interest In Jeremy Lin

Carmelo running him outta town?

Underdog · 07-02-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Carmelo running him outta town?

Looks like the Knicks are gunning hard for Nash...

oilfieldtrash · 07-02-2012, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Raptors, Mavericks, Nets Express Interest In Jeremy Lin

Ugh... I don't think I'd want him at 24.5 for 4. 40 mil for 4? Hell no.

Bayliss · 07-02-2012, 08:28 AM

And apparently the Mavs have interest in Anthony Randolph. I hope they pass on Randolph. He may be in his early 20s but he is just not a team player.

howdoesmydirktaste · 07-02-2012, 08:53 AM

PG -Deron Williams/ Jason Kidd/ Delonte West
SG -Vince Carter/ MAYBE Brandon Roy/ Roddy B
SF - Shawn Marion/ CJ Miles
PF - Dirk Nowitzki/ Bernard James
C- Marcus Camby/ Brandon Wright

I could live with that 12-man roster above. Not sure if it's possible. We would need to move Dojo. West can rotate to PG and SG. Carter can rotate from SG to SF. Just a thought. Maybe convince CJ to take a hometown discount. Get Camby for cheap. And this also is crossing your fingers on James.

I'm just throwing it out there to see if it sticks.

howdoesmydirktaste · 07-02-2012, 08:57 AM

Looking at my last post, we got some OLD dudes on this team if that happens. Maybe look for a younger option instead of Roy.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-02-2012, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by howdoesmydirktaste

Looking at my last post, we got some OLD dudes on this team if that happens. Maybe look for a younger option instead of Roy.

You do realize that Roy is only 27 right?

Bayliss · 07-02-2012, 09:10 AM

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You do realize that Roy is only 27 right?

But he has the knees of a 50 year old. Last time I checked knees are important in basketball..........

(But if the Mavs sign him for cheap to be their 6th/7th man it is a good signing.)

nowhereman · 07-02-2012, 09:17 AM

According to Caplan, +Deron means -Delonte.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/debate-der...est-title-shot

Murphy3 · 07-02-2012, 09:28 AM

Bill Ingram's an extremely good man, but .... he's off on this one.

alby · 07-02-2012, 10:23 AM

No Lin please.

oilfieldtrash · 07-02-2012, 10:45 AM

I hope we don't hear of Dragic committing to anyone while this Deron thing plays out and lose Deron too.

DirkFTW · 07-02-2012, 10:50 AM

Lin and Cadbane please.

MavsFTR · 07-02-2012, 10:50 AM

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Lin and Cadbane please.

Lol

BGMaverick9 · 07-02-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

How did we go from Brandon Roy's career being over to having him being in our starting 5? I thought his knees were completely gone?

Based on the money that Deron will suck up, you're running out of money to fill out a roster. It would be ideal to have Roy be your 6th or 7th man, but you might only have Vince (maybe?) or Roy as your realistic starting options if they're all on board.

OneLove22 · 07-02-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Raptors, Mavericks, Nets Express Interest In Jeremy Lin

Please no

MavsFTR · 07-02-2012, 11:05 AM

I actually wouldn't mind Lin for the right price if we strike out on Williams.

OneLove22 · 07-02-2012, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

I actually wouldn't mind Lin for the right price if we strike out on Williams.

If it's the minimum then fine.

Dtownsfinest · 07-02-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Based on the money that Deron will suck up, you're running out of money to fill out a roster. It would be ideal to have Roy be your 6th or 7th man, but you might only have Vince (maybe?) or Roy as your realistic starting options if they're all on board.

So he can still play? I was just under the impression he was done with the NBA. That's how bad his knees had gotten.

BGMaverick9 · 07-02-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

So he can still play? I was just under the impression he was done with the NBA. That's how bad his knees had gotten.

I've said all along, he's going to be a guy that I feel you've got to handle with care. His legs and body might feel good but that cartilage is gone. I'd play it safe and keep his minutes low and think about having him sit out games.

That being said, he makes quite a bit of sense as a cheap signing based on the potential upside.

SMC0007 · 07-02-2012, 11:44 AM

Why the hell not on Lin?

(We should have had him since summer camp years back anyway)

clutch#41 · 07-02-2012, 11:47 AM

id rather give lin a 4/40mil deal than wallace

Bayliss · 07-02-2012, 11:48 AM

Jared Zwerling: From a source very close to Marcus Camby: "He wants to go to a team for a starting job if he can. That’s his priority. But NY is an option." Twitter

Well, Camby... the Mavs can make that happen. They can also make you the closing C as well.

rabbitproof · 07-02-2012, 11:48 AM

If we miss on DWill, then elect to go young (or miss out on Nash), Lin for 4-5M or so isn't a bad deal for a young heady PG.

We could put the dollars to building the SG/C spots.

mavs777 · 07-02-2012, 12:02 PM

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If we miss on DWill, then elect to go young (or miss out on Nash), Lin for 4-5M or so isn't a bad deal for a young heady PG.

We could put the dollars to building the SG/C spots.

NY would simply match, i assume if we miss on deron (and nash) we will look at trade options.

LonghornDub · 07-02-2012, 12:06 PM

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Lin and Cadbane please.

Beautiful. Just beautiful.

Underdog · 07-02-2012, 12:56 PM

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Jonathan Feigen: For Camby issue could be timing. Has interest in Mavs, Spurs, Heat; Might not be able to wait 'til 7/14 for Bulls' Asik offer sheet decision

Looks like Camby narrowed his choices down to three, Mavs still in the mix... He always seemed like the most realistic get if the Mavs were going to amnesty Haywood, but still wanted to stay in the running for Dwight Howard next summer.

Underdog · 07-02-2012, 01:14 PM

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How much is Marcus Camby worth?

There is mutual admiration between the Dallas Mavericks and veteran center Marcus Camby, a source close to the situation confirmed Monday, but that goes for quite a number of teams that could use the still very active 38-year-old protecting the rim.

The source said Camby is seeking a multiyear deal (two or three years) and prefers to return to the Rockets, the team he was traded to last March. Houston has since traded away Samuel Dalembert and on Monday reached an agreement on a three-year, $25 million deal with Chicago Bulls restricted free-agent center Omer Asik. The Bulls will have 72 hours to match once the league's moratorium on contracts and trades ends July 11. Camby could return there regardless.

The Mavs are in a holding pattern until Deron Williams makes his decision, expected in the next day or two after representatives from the Mavs and Brooklyn Nets meet with him Monday. If Williams agrees to play for the Mavs, Dallas will have to create cap space by using the amnesty clause either on center Brendan Haywood or small forward Shawn Marion. Haywood seems to be the top candidate.

Acquiring a center then becomes paramount. Camby's asking price, however, could be too high as the Mavs' cap space tightens. As the axiom goes, big men get paid, even old ones.

If Williams agrees to re-sign with the Nets, the Mavs might have little choice but to hold onto Haywood, who is under contract for three more seasons and will make $8.3 million in 2012-13. They could still amnesty him, but it would be risky considering free agent Ian Mahinmi could be headed elsewhere and converted power forward Brandan Wright is the only other so-called center on the roster (plus, the Mavs might want to pocket the amnesty card for next summer's pursuits).

Camby could still be a fine fit in Dallas with Haywood. It would make for a solid tandem and a potentially interesting battle for the starting spot, a la Tyson Chandler.

The 6-foot-11 Camby, who has averaged nearly 10 boards and more than two blocks a game throughout his career, made in excess of $11 million last season, his 16th in the league. He's made nearly $120 million in his career.

So what will the market bear now? The mini mid-level of $3 million? The full mid-level of $5 million? Some speculate that Camby could still command north of $6 million bucks a season.

Along with the Mavs and Rockets, reports have Camby considering the Knicks, Heat (who, for example, could only pay him the $3 million exception if they don't sign Ray Allen), Spurs and Celtics, all teams with varying dollars to spend.

How much Camby will make will simply depend on his preference for money and fit at this stage of a so far championship-less career.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...medium=twitter

rabbitproof · 07-02-2012, 02:12 PM

6M+ sounds about right. He's bound to miss 15-20 games but he gives you an elite big man defender the rest of the time.

Are you allowed to use TEs for SnTs? The TE we got from the Jazz could work if we are able to send some prospects and talents to Houston. Forgot if TEs can be packaged with players or not but a two-step deal may work.

OneLove22 · 07-02-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Why the hell not on Lin?

(We should have had him since summer camp years back anyway)

Don't trust having him locked up long term.

Underdog · 07-02-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

6M+ sounds about right. He's bound to miss 15-20 games but he gives you an elite big man defender the rest of the time.

Found this bit of info...

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Mark Followill: Camby has missed 61 games in last 5 yrs, but that is the lowest number of missed games in any 5 year stretch of his career

That's only 12.2 games missed per season over the last 5 years - and Carlisle knows how to allocate veteran minutes to maximize their usefulness for the playoffs.

Bayliss · 07-02-2012, 02:24 PM

He's looking at re-signing with the Rockets and being Asik's mentor. He thinks he still has 3 years left in him.

clutch#41 · 07-02-2012, 02:33 PM

"KBergCBS
Marco Bellinelli is getting some interest from teams in the shooting-guard market, league sources say. Dallas is one possibility."

roadrunner · 07-02-2012, 02:34 PM

Lin news...As a fallback plan to both Dwill and Nash, I wouldnt be opposed to the cap friendly contract of 5 mil for first 2 years and escalating to 12 mil in the 3rd and 4th years, especially considering in the 3rd year Dirk's contract will be expired.

http://bucketsoverbroadway.com/2012/...r-in-new-york/