Mavs Free Agency Rumors: Chandler Parsons (NOPE)

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2016/6/...conley-parsons
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This article desperately needs some time of *SPOILERS* tag at the top. Because now there is no point in watching free agency, I'm confident this is exactly how it plays out.

It needs a GD trigger warning. Way worse than bickering about the F-word.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Kinda like Tyson. Dude wanted to get paid knowing his injury issues. I have no ill will against him for leaving.

Just makes me wonder who would max Parsons in money and years. Parsons just keeps getting inured year after year. Maybe there is just that much dumb money out there

LA, LA, Orlando?

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/parsons-t...eams/255395811

[Melonhead]

I tried to put away thoughts that Parsons was a fake, a phony. But if that article is true on his position, then most of us were right all along. Im sure Cuban has said Ill take care of you if you opt in, but he never intended on opting in. Im mad at how much sacrifice Dirk takes. It never seems to work out in his favor.

After his public comments on DJ, I had come around and thought dude is here to stick it out with Dirk and Wes. But no, if he cant accept something like 18m, then be gone.

And my god, if he went to the Clippers...Seriously I would lose all filter.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

LA, LA, Orlando?

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/parsons-t...eams/255395811

If Parsons went to the Clippers, then Cuban would look very, very bad.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

LA, LA, Orlando?

http://www.wfaa.com/sports/parsons-t...eams/255395811

Oh my gosh. I would LOVE Parsons in LA. Imagine him AND Griffin/Pail getting injured every year for the playoffs but continuing to make excuses. That would br the most arrogant all-rehab team in the NBA

[sefant77]

Clippers have no cap whatsoever.

Griffin/Jordan/Paul/Redick are 71m. Add Pierce, cap holds etc and there arent even 10m for Parsons. Even if they are able to dumb Redick its not even close to max for the Clippers. And redick is a bargain next season

[Underdog]

‏@thebirdwrites: 2016 NBA Free Agency: Chandler Parsons fits the Pelicans needs, except for his knees. http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2016/6/...leans-pelicans

[sefant77]

I highly doubt the Pelicans have the guts to max out Parsons after the Eric Gordon disaster

[Melonhead]

Parsons with his "all ears" post on instagram. This dude...

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Parsons with his "all ears" post on instagram. This dude...

Who cares. He sees the writing on the wall and 95% isn't back next season. He can go hang out with his pal DAJ.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Who cares. He sees the writing on the wall and 95% isn't back next season. He can go hang out with his pal DAJ.

Back in may...probably he knew/decided he was going for the max money and nothing else and walks from Dallas. Thats why this retarded instagram post where he took a giant dump on every Mavs fans (and he knew this and still did it)

[EricaLubarsky]

I hate to say it, because Parsons seems like a good guy, but I'd be 100% okay with Parsons leaving. Other than his recruiting (which he ultimately failed at), he really hasn't shown as much as I was hoping to. He's a star, but not a superstar and even when he plays well, it doesn't make the Mavericks better. He's just too much of a sieve on defense to help the team and he's not dynamic enough on offense to make up for the crappy defense. That's WHEN he's healthy, which isn't a guarantee. Even if we could guarantee a good 82 games of Parsons next season (plus playoffs), I honestly wouldn't be 100% thrilled for the opportunity-- particularly at the 21.1 mill a year. He's best at PF, but is playing behind Dirk and the Dirk/Parsons matchup not only kept Anderson off the floor, but it also made for one of the worst defensive (and offensive!) two-man units on the floor (the five-man units that included Dirk and Parsons together were -10.45 last year.)

Anderson much better fits the mold for what Rick wants. He plays d, he hustles, he plays within himself, and he rebounds. Parsons is the better player at this point in their careers for sure, but Anderson is the better fit.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

One thing that hasn't been discussed is if Parsons left even IF we offered him the max. I think the FO is partly covering their asses by preventing such an embarrassing scenario because there is no guarantee Parsons stays even with the full offer.

[EricaLubarsky]

The FO isn't just trying to improve the team? Theyre actively trying to be part of a conspiracy to look better to fans?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

The FO isn't just trying to improve the team? Theyre actively trying to be part of a conspiracy to look better to fans?

Yes, conspiracy. That's exactly what I said. Oy vey...

You can actively try and improve the team while also taking the initiative early on with Parsons like they are doing. Everyone just assumes that the Mavs are in the driver's seat with Parsons, but I think he was going to shop himself around regardless. And yes, this is a perception is reality league. It would look pretty terrible if the FO made Parsons, a guy they overpaid for and made Dirk take a hometown discount, a max contract priority and him not choose to stay here. Plus, you risk missing out on other FAs if you wait too long for him to decide. At least by saying you won't give him the max that you're somewhat covering your own ass in that regard. The fact that they don't feel he is worth it just makes it easier to do it.

[EricaLubarsky]

I think there is a better than 50% chance we move into next season without him and there is legit debate about whether or not that would be a good thing.

I think there is a 0% chance the FO is spending any time at all trying to placate the hardcore fan base of a few hundred fans online that actually follow the team closely enough to care by trying to somehow orchestrate a media story. The vast majority of fans just want wins and I assume that that is what the FO is working on instead of fussing over a narrative the media and fans may tell if Parsons leaves IF we offer him the max even though as far as we know, they aren't even planning to.

[Underdog]

Knicks Reportedly Plan to Meet With Chandler Parsons in Free Agency

[Bryan_Wilson]

I defend Parsons a lot but I also could go either way as I've said in regards to keeping him or letting him go elsewhere. I'm not remotely sold on the idea that we could lure Whiteside and Conley here and feel most likely the best roster we could field would include Parsons. But I also rly don't want to pay him that much when he fits so poorly next to Dirk and frankly in our system. We don't have a great rolling 5 to take advantage of a Parsons+5 pnr(yet). He takes advantage of players as a small ball 4 but lacks the rebounding of a 4 and lacks lateral quickness to defend the 3 and gets pushed around easily as a 4. One of his strengths is playmaking but RC is in control of what play we run and the wings in our system are standing in the corner 90% of the time just sitting there, especially late in games. I think he needs to be in more of a tyreke evans role where he gets to run the offense a good 10-20 possessions. Here he gets what, 2-5 possessions a game? And 0 in the last 8-10 mins of a game. All he does here is shoot 3's and pump fake his way into the paint, he doesn't really get enough opportunities to run the offense. And even if he had that role, as EL and others have pointed out he rly doesn't fit well with Dirk defensively and on the boards leading him to be a net 0 many times. So yeah... I don't think the role we use him in is max worthy, and his defense/rebounding make it even more glaring... but outside of landing 2 top free agents when we can never even land 1... most plans with him walking might not be best.

[yahyes]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Knicks Reportedly Plan to Meet With Chandler Parsons in Free Agency

LOL

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Rose, Parsons, and Melo would automatically be the worst defensive team in the NBA.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Rose, Parsons, and Melo would automatically be the worst defensive team in the NBA.

Worse than Williams/Dirk/Parsons/Pachulia?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Worse than Williams/Dirk/Parsons/Pachulia?

Welp, that's obviously why the FO is prioritizing Conley/Whiteside. And I think Rose is worse than Williams and Melo worse than Dirk.

[yahyes]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Rose, Parsons, and Melo would automatically be the worst defensive team in the NBA.

Don't forget to add that Prizongas guy too.

[Underdog]

‏@ESefko: from http://sportsbettingdime.com, Chandler Parsons' signing odds: Celtics 4/1, Wizards 9/2, Magic 19/4, Bulls 11/2, Mavs 18/1, field 19/6.

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by Underdog

‏@ESefko: from http://sportsbettingdime.com, Chandler Parsons' signing odds: Celtics 4/1, Wizards 9/2, Magic 19/4, Bulls 11/2, Mavs 18/1, field 19/6.

Sweet Jesus, 18-1 on Parsons? I agree that he's more likely than not to leave, but if I had a line on that action I'd throw a cool $50 down. I think there's a relatively likely scenario that sees us missing out on Conley, Whiteside, or both and falling back with a max deal for Parsons. And that's far from the worst-case scenario this summer.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Underdog

‏@ESefko: from http://sportsbettingdime.com, Chandler Parsons' signing odds: Celtics 4/1, Wizards 9/2, Magic 19/4, Bulls 11/2, Mavs 18/1, field 19/6.

Celtics? Didn't really see that coming...

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by spreedom

Sweet Jesus, 18-1 on Parsons? I agree that he's more likely than not to leave, but if I had a line on that action I'd throw a cool $50 down. I think there's a relatively likely scenario that sees us missing out on Conley, Whiteside, or both and falling back with a max deal for Parsons. And that's far from the worst-case scenario this summer.

I think that that is a great bet.

[Underdog]

@espn_macmahon: League sources: Lakers are among suitors for Chandler Parsons. ESPN's Marc Stein reported that the Grizzlies are also pursuing Parsons.

[EricaLubarsky]

tonight is going to be exciting.

[Melonhead]

Agree. Id throw 20 bucks on that Parsons line just for the hell of it.

[yahyes]

If he goes to LA it'll be for his modeling career. Not trying to contend right away.

[spreedom]

Originally Posted by yahyes

If he goes to LA it'll be for his modeling career. Not trying to contend right away.

That would be a weird fit for him... I can understand getting all of the guaranteed money you can though. I have a hard time faulting guys for that.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by yahyes

If he goes to LA it'll be for his modeling career. Not trying to contend right away.

Who wants him that can contend right away though?

[sefant77]

With the Batum meeting settled.....

He gone. 100%

[Thespiralgoeson]

In case it wasn't clear enough already.

"Parsons Reportedly Will Not Return to Mavericks
Thursday, June 30

Tim MacMahon of ESPN spoke to a source who said there was "no chance" Parsons would return to Dallas in free agency."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-agent-forward

[Melonhead]

Odds makers know what they're doing with the 18/1 Parsons Dallas.

Oh well. Not crying over spilled milk. Time to focus.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Oh well. Not crying over spilled milk. Time to focus.

Exactly. Honestly I think this is good because it gets rid of the only distraction we would have had in our pursuit of Whiteside. It's now clear how highly the Mavs prioritize him, and probably makes for a stronger pitch.

[Melonhead]

Still crazy to think a year ago Parsons is in the street ecstatic over DJ and Cuban is gloating over the phone. Turn of events...

[DevinHarriswillstart]

[yahyes]

Parsons just didn't have the tenacity we needed. Sure he put in his work during regular season here and there. But I would be bold to say Deron did 10 times better than him at contributing. It seemed like Parsons was just trying to make his contract look good. Especially with all the modeling attention he does on the side. It's not the mindset the team needs. Whiteside clearly has the try to win now mindset. But Parsons looks to all but shutter once playoffs begin.