Rodrigue Beaubois development thread

[Kidd Karma]

If it's matchups, then we won't see him with Portland unless he can some how exploit Mills. With the big backcourt, along with Fernandez, we should see some Brewer, and no 3 guard lineup. Afterall playoffs are all about defense.

[dude1394]

No roddy team has biggest win of the year. Caplan says palpable relief that dsteve is back in the lineup. Coincidence?

[JeffViggiano]

Originally Posted by dude1394

No roddy team has biggest win of the year. Caplan says palpable relief that dsteve is back in the lineup. Coincidence?

absolutely no,without roddy we could win 82games this year.

[Kidd Karma]

Originally Posted by dude1394

No roddy team has biggest win of the year. Caplan says palpable relief that dsteve is back in the lineup. Coincidence?

Just like Butler, he needs a full camp to integrate himself fully and develop that chemistry. Its not somethinig you get over night. Hopefully he can watch Jet and absorb his role eventually.

[Budapest Maverick]

Originally Posted by dude1394

No roddy team has biggest win of the year. Caplan says palpable relief that dsteve is back in the lineup. Coincidence?

Wow...

[nowhereman]

No chance in hell RC is gone and I would also put money on it

[xrobx]

i really need an injury update on this guy. will he be back?

[xrobx]

i really need an injury update on this guy. will he be back?

[fluid.forty.one]

I hope not. It was so nice having a big body out there like Stevenson. (and hopefully Brewer next game)

[xrobx]

i still think he could play a few valuable minutes off the bench. he played good against portland earlier this year

[mavs777]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

I hope not. It was so nice having a big body out there like Stevenson. (and hopefully Brewer next game)

I hope he is ok healthy wise but RC doesn't play him unless we are down double digits. Never want a serious injury

[xrobx]

please come back

[Marionsucks]

Yeah, I would at least like him to dress.

[She_Growls]

Ups, Downs, Stevenson Rolls with Punches

April, 22, 2011 Apr 227:30PM
By Jeff Caplan
PORTLAND, Ore. -- Shooting guard DeShawn Stevenson doesn't kid himself. He knows his place in the starting lineup if things quickly go against the Dallas Mavericks as they did out of the chute in Thursday's Game 3.

Before four minutes had elapsed, Stevenson had a pass picked off and slammed at the other end, and his man, Portland Trail Blazers' shooting guard Wesley Matthews, had swished two 3-pointers as the Blazers led 10-2. At the 8:18 mark, Mavs coach Rick Carlisle sat Stevenson down and never put him back into the 97-92 loss.

"He felt that I didn’t come out with a lot of energy," Stevenson said. "I made one bad turnover early and that kind of hurt. And whenever a team gets on a roll like that, the only person in that starting lineup that’s probably going to get pulled is myself. So, we got to be honest with it. I respect it. He’s not going to take anybody else out but me and you’ve just got to keep trucking with it."

Stevenson is expected to be back in the starting lineup for Saturday's Game 4, which would be his fifth consecutive start. Since he scored five points and drew a couple of quick fouls on Matthews in the first quarter of Game 1, Stevenson's minutes and production have slipped in Games 2 and 3. He had just one point in 13 minutes in Game 2 and then he got the quick hook in Game 3.

"Game 3 was a rough start for us, so he wasn’t that involved," Carlisle said. "But, he’s an experienced player. He’s been involved in a lot of playoff games. Going forward, there’s going to be ups and downs and he’s going to be ready."

Carlisle returned Stevenson to the starting lineup for the regular season finale on April 13 after two months of trying to coach up Rodrigue Beaubois. It became apparent that Beaubois wasn't ready for the pressures of the starting lineup and Carlisle realized he had to make a change heading into the playoffs. He turned to Stevenson, who started 48 games prior to Beaubois' return. Yet, Stevenson also logged just five minutes or fewer 14 times in the final 24 games.

"That’s the way he coaches. Sometimes you won’t play for five games and then you’ll start," Stevenson said. "See me, I think I got five DNPs (actually seven since March 1) before the New Orleans start on ESPN, and since then I’ve been the starter for the playoffs. If you would have asked me that question any other day I probably wouldn’t have thought that. So, you have the opportunity, you have to be out there and be ready. If not, he’s going to try somebody else."

"Be ready" has been a Carlisle mantra for role players since the day he arrived in Dallas. And it applied to Stevenson's return to the starting lineup. Stevenson said he had no idea when he woke up on the morning of the regular-season finale that Carlisle was preparing to make the move. And when he did find out, he said he didn't know he was replacing Beaubois.

"I got a text right before shootaround that said he was going to start me," Stevenson said. "I didn’t know it was for Roddy because sometimes when I do start he takes Trix [Shawn Marion]out [at small forward]. So, I didn’t know what was going on. They made the move and that’s the way stuff works out here and you’ve just got to be ready. If you’re not ready you will never get your chance."

Stevenson's starting job is likely safe. Carlisle's choices for a different direction are rather limited. Corey Brewer has played four minutes in the series and he didn't touch the floor in Games 1 and 3. Jason Terry is the other option, but that would rob the bench of its top scorer.

Stevenson, though, said he's ready.

"Just got to get myself going, get the open shots I get, lock down as a defender," Stevenson said. "[Thursday] night I didn’t really get to play Matthews that often. He got off to a good game. LaMarcus Aldridge got off to a good game. So, I just have to be myself and play my game. When I do that I know coach will leave me on the court a little bit longer and if not that's when Jet comes in. With this year up and down I've just got to be positive, stay positive and hopefully I’ll get that look I always get when I play a little bit longer."






No wonder the Team has communication issues on the floor. Shortly before being traded, I recall Josh Howard saying something along the lines that Carlisle would past you in the hallway and not say a word to you. Obviously this was not the case with Nellie or Avery and for someone as sensitive as Josh, I can see how this would bother him. I find it strange to send a text msg to Stevenson instead of talking to him one-on-one in the gym/office and furthermore, not even inform Stevenson who he would be replacing??? Just very odd to me. Talk about unnecessary uncertainty...

[BGMaverick9]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

No wonder the Team has communication issues on the floor. Shortly before being traded, I recall Josh Howard saying something along the lines that Carlisle would past you in the hallway and not say a word to you. Obviously this was not the case with Nellie or Avery and for someone as sensitive as Josh, I can see how this would bother him. I find it strange to send a text msg to Stevenson instead of talking to him one-on-one in the gym/office and furthermore, not even inform Stevenson who he would be replacing??? Just very odd to me. Talk about unnecessary uncertainty...

That's certainly one way to look at it...

How about the decision is made and they want to give him the information as soon as possible, BEFORE shootaround. I'm not saying that's the answer, but it's certainly JUST as viable as your scenario, right?

Carlisle and Stevenson talked one-on-one in his office after the game last night, so I'm not sure your angle about the lack of communication is spot on.

[Marionsucks]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

Ups, Downs, Stevenson Rolls with Punches

No wonder the Team has communication issues on the floor. Shortly before being traded, I recall Josh Howard saying something along the lines that Carlisle would past you in the hallway and not say a word to you. Obviously this was not the case with Nellie or Avery and for someone as sensitive as Josh, I can see how this would bother him. I find it strange to send a text msg to Stevenson instead of talking to him one-on-one in the gym/office and furthermore, not even inform Stevenson who he would be replacing??? Just very odd to me. Talk about unnecessary uncertainty...

Carlisle is kind of weird, he goes from saying that he is gonna stick with Roddy and has all the confidence in the world in that kid to, wanting nothing to do with him like a day later.

[She_Growls]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

That's certainly one way to look at it...

How about the decision is made and they want to give him the information as soon as possible, BEFORE shootaround. I'm not saying that's the answer, but it's certainly JUST as viable as your scenario, right?

Carlisle and Stevenson talked one-on-one in his office after the game last night, so I'm not sure your angle about the lack of communication is spot on.

Sure, that's one way to look at it among many, but it doesn't change the facts of what Stevenson reported. I don't rationalize & justify things, I just call it for what it is and I see a lack of communication from the HC, but this is not surprising. Obviously, RC has to communicate with his players, its basketball---so good he had a one-on-one with Stevenson yesterday, but I still see a pattern past & present & with different players. It's more or less the how, why, when & where of the communication......IMHO people lack one-on-one communication skills these days and prefer to hide behind freaking text msg, tweets and emails----and call that communication....very sad & disturbing to me.

But I certainly understand and respect your defense of RC, especially now , but I will stand by my post.

*Go Mavs!

[She_Growls]

Originally Posted by Marionsucks

Carlisle is kind of weird, he goes from saying that he is gonna stick with Roddy and has all the confidence in the world in that kid to, wanting nothing to do with him like a day later.

I hear ya! Obviously blowing smoke...

[DTownKidd]

I like what Carlisle did with Roddy for the short part of the season he was in. Put him in limited minutes against the starter at the beginning of the game. This way roddy plays against the other teams starters when they are fresh, after his 15 minutes or so he can take him out. This way he gets the most meaningful experience against the best competiton with out potentially affecting the outcome of the game at the end, or if he does do terrible we then have 3 or so quarters to get back on track

[She_Growls]

This will be my last post on this board…

First, I don't hide the fact that I don't like RC, basically after what happened during the playoffs last season. He was unbelievably outcoached and “exposed" as an incompetent coach. This was followed by the sports media who harshly criticized Rick for how he handled Roddy and basically asked the question, why he didn't play Roddy down the stretch of the last game which booted the Mavs out of the 1st round? During all of this criticism and questioning, Rick NEVER admitted his errors or mistake in regards to his rotations during the Spurs series and stuck by his decision to this day.

Fast forward, 2011. Roddy is inserted into the starting lineup (not sure why, since 1) he’s basically still a Rookie and 2) he's coming off a serious foot injury). Nevertheless, the first few games Roddy is decent. As time goes by, Roddy's mins begins to decrease; he is benched for basic mistakes made by his teammates and unaware when he will return, 3rdQ, 4thQ, next game? Uncertainty/ anxiety creep in. Why wouldn't you lose confidence? Why wouldn't you feel pressure? Why wouldn't you be confused? Everyone is in your ear, do this and do that. Now Roddy is not playing by his natural given talent, but robotically. Was he setup to fail?

My question is why did Rick Carlisle insert Roddy into the starting lineup in the first place? He should have come off the bench and yes, he deserved to get sufficient minutes to prove himself. If you are about giving Roddy a chance and genuinely trying to build his confidence, what makes you think Roddy or any player can build confidence, when he gets benched for every mistake he makes and looking over his shoulders? Was Roddy setup to fail? Is Roddy really as bad as he appeared to look or was it psychological?

Well, I do believe Roddy was "overexposed"; however, I think it was by design and intentional by Rick Carlisle. Since he can't admit he made a mistake last season, Roddy is Rick's Achilles' heel. I'm sure RC was sick of hearing about "Free Roddy" from the fans. He was also probably sick of the FO insistence that Roddy be played significant minutes and we all know how stubborn he is. He was going to ensure he got his way and he did at Roddy’s expense.

Rick needs to vindicate himself this season; not sure with whom. He needs to prove that his decision regarding Roddy was correct last year; that he was right NOT to play Roddy. He’s going to prove Roddy wasn’t ready, can’t handle the pressure and he did. So his mission has been accomplished and he manipulated his other players to put the icing on the cake. You know, this type of "tactic" is used in corporate America every freaking day and 99% of the time it goes unnoticed because it is difficult to see or expose.

Rick Carlisle destroyed Roddy's confidence on purpose. How can you explain why just one week ago, RC is singing Roddy's praises, saying that he's going to stick with the kid and in less than a week, he changed his mind to pull Roddy... "It was Time”….in his words. He was just blowing smoke---he never liked Roddy.

That said, I hope Roddy stays on the inactive list permanently and traded so he has a chance to heal from the madness of Rick Carlisle and reach his potential. So whatever happens during this playoff run, Rick can take all the glory or not…

Btw, I will not be responding to the outbursts of my post. Everyone is free to their opinion, but I prefer to live a conscious life instead of being trapped in a reality cycle no matter how much it hurts.

Good luck Mavericks!

[jthig32]

^ I'm going to give this post the benefit of the doubt and assume it's a bit.

In truth though, I'm just helping myself out. Because if I really had to face the reality that some people really think like this, I might have an aneurysm.

[xrobx]

really though, is roddy dead? did they just put him in a box and mail him back to france? what the hell is going on?

[markus1234]

It is not so much about Roddy at this point.

It is more about Jet-JJB-Kidd or Roddy-Brewer-Deshawn.

Last night it was clear that less Jet/JJB/Kidd and more Deshawn/Roddy/Brewer would be better in the 4th.

Brandon Roy went hot for f* 12min and Rick showed zero reaction/creativity as a coach. This is simply unacceptable.

[Marionsucks]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

This will be my last post on this board…

First, I don't hide the fact that I don't like RC, basically after what happened during the playoffs last season. He was unbelievably outcoached and “exposed" as an incompetent coach. This was followed by the sports media who harshly criticized Rick for how he handled Roddy and basically asked the question, why he didn't play Roddy down the stretch of the last game which booted the Mavs out of the 1st round? During all of this criticism and questioning, Rick NEVER admitted his errors or mistake in regards to his rotations during the Spurs series and stuck by his decision to this day.

Fast forward, 2011. Roddy is inserted into the starting lineup (not sure why, since 1) he’s basically still a Rookie and 2) he's coming off a serious foot injury). Nevertheless, the first few games Roddy is decent. As time goes by, Roddy's mins begins to decrease; he is benched for basic mistakes made by his teammates and unaware when he will return, 3rdQ, 4thQ, next game? Uncertainty/ anxiety creep in. Why wouldn't you lose confidence? Why wouldn't you feel pressure? Why wouldn't you be confused? Everyone is in your ear, do this and do that. Now Roddy is not playing by his natural given talent, but robotically. Was he setup to fail?

My question is why did Rick Carlisle insert Roddy into the starting lineup in the first place? He should have come off the bench and yes, he deserved to get sufficient minutes to prove himself. If you are about giving Roddy a chance and genuinely trying to build his confidence, what makes you think Roddy or any player can build confidence, when he gets benched for every mistake he makes and looking over his shoulders? Was Roddy setup to fail? Is Roddy really as bad as he appeared to look or was it psychological?

Well, I do believe Roddy was "overexposed"; however, I think it was by design and intentional by Rick Carlisle. Since he can't admit he made a mistake last season, Roddy is Rick's Achilles' heel. I'm sure RC was sick of hearing about "Free Roddy" from the fans. He was also probably sick of the FO insistence that Roddy be played significant minutes and we all know how stubborn he is. He was going to ensure he got his way and he did at Roddy’s expense.

Rick needs to vindicate himself this season; not sure with whom. He needs to prove that his decision regarding Roddy was correct last year; that he was right NOT to play Roddy. He’s going to prove Roddy wasn’t ready, can’t handle the pressure and he did. So his mission has been accomplished and he manipulated his other players to put the icing on the cake. You know, this type of "tactic" is used in corporate America every freaking day and 99% of the time it goes unnoticed because it is difficult to see or expose.

Rick Carlisle destroyed Roddy's confidence on purpose. How can you explain why just one week ago, RC is singing Roddy's praises, saying that he's going to stick with the kid and in less than a week, he changed his mind to pull Roddy... "It was Time”….in his words. He was just blowing smoke---he never liked Roddy.

That said, I hope Roddy stays on the inactive list permanently and traded so he has a chance to heal from the madness of Rick Carlisle and reach his potential. So whatever happens during this playoff run, Rick can take all the glory or not…

Btw, I will not be responding to the outbursts of my post. Everyone is free to their opinion, but I prefer to live a conscious life instead of being trapped in a reality cycle no matter how much it hurts.

Good luck Mavericks!

Excellent post indeed! I feel the same way about this whole situation but the messed up thing about it is, 90% of the posters here don't care about it. These posters would rather see another 1st round exit instead of wanting the issues resolved, but they will deny it of course. Like really, what decent team in the NBA PLAYOFFS is going to blow a 20 pt lead in the 4th quarter alone??? Phil Jackson would have pulled all of his starting players once the deficit dropped to 10 pts cause obviously, the players on the court didn't give a damn about their lead.

Carlvile is what reminds me of Bill Parcells when he coached for the Cowboys, you always had players that were called " Parcell guys" because he would stick with them no matter what due to a man crush on his bread and butter, which is the worse type of coach on the face of the earth. While Carlvile overlooks the talent of the future and possibly players that can make a difference in this season. I wouldn't go as far to say that Carlvile had a personal dilemma about Roddy last season, and was out to destroy him intentionally this season, but it's apparent that RC dislikes Roddy as a player due to the odd and unusual substitution patterns that he made with the kid.

I've noticed an extreme amount of change from Roddy this year, last year he was just doing what he was best at and succeeding, this year he has been clipped and trimmed like a poodle into something that he will never become. Even I can see Roddy is a true SG, though he lacks the size and strength, this kid can shoot the ball lights outs. if Roddy didn't lack confidence and second guess his decisions on the court, he would add an enormous amount of contribution like we saw last year.

I don't know maybe there is a reason why I am not a coach in the NBA. (I never thought about doing it) And maybe there is a reason Why Carlisle has never obtained a championship. I'm not saying every coach has to win one, but for crying out loud!!!!!! PLAY EVERY PLAYER THAT IS DRESSED!!!! (Brewer,Mahimi, Beaubois, Cardinal and etc if you must.) Then at least you could say you tried everything you could to win.

Triple kudos to your post!!!

[mavsman]

Originally Posted by Marionsucks

PLAY EVERY PLAYER THAT IS DRESSED!!!! (Brewer,Mahimi, Beaubois, Cardinal and etc if you must.) Then at least you could say you tried everything you could to win.

And exactly at what point in yesterday's game would if have been a great idea to sub in Cardinal or Mahinmi? When we were building the massive lead or maybe when we were down two and needed a prayer? Hindsight is a great thing, but no single coach in the NBA would play the final minutes of yesterday's game with his scrubs when the regular ending five hasn't fouled out or is hurt.

[b_o_r]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

This will be my last post on this board…

First, I don't hide the fact that I don't like RC, basically after what happened during the playoffs last season. He was unbelievably outcoached and “exposed" as an incompetent coach. This was followed by the sports media who harshly criticized Rick for how he handled Roddy and basically asked the question, why he didn't play Roddy down the stretch of the last game which booted the Mavs out of the 1st round? During all of this criticism and questioning, Rick NEVER admitted his errors or mistake in regards to his rotations during the Spurs series and stuck by his decision to this day.

Fast forward, 2011. Roddy is inserted into the starting lineup (not sure why, since 1) he’s basically still a Rookie and 2) he's coming off a serious foot injury). Nevertheless, the first few games Roddy is decent. As time goes by, Roddy's mins begins to decrease; he is benched for basic mistakes made by his teammates and unaware when he will return, 3rdQ, 4thQ, next game? Uncertainty/ anxiety creep in. Why wouldn't you lose confidence? Why wouldn't you feel pressure? Why wouldn't you be confused? Everyone is in your ear, do this and do that. Now Roddy is not playing by his natural given talent, but robotically. Was he setup to fail?

My question is why did Rick Carlisle insert Roddy into the starting lineup in the first place? He should have come off the bench and yes, he deserved to get sufficient minutes to prove himself. If you are about giving Roddy a chance and genuinely trying to build his confidence, what makes you think Roddy or any player can build confidence, when he gets benched for every mistake he makes and looking over his shoulders? Was Roddy setup to fail? Is Roddy really as bad as he appeared to look or was it psychological?

Well, I do believe Roddy was "overexposed"; however, I think it was by design and intentional by Rick Carlisle. Since he can't admit he made a mistake last season, Roddy is Rick's Achilles' heel. I'm sure RC was sick of hearing about "Free Roddy" from the fans. He was also probably sick of the FO insistence that Roddy be played significant minutes and we all know how stubborn he is. He was going to ensure he got his way and he did at Roddy’s expense.

Rick needs to vindicate himself this season; not sure with whom. He needs to prove that his decision regarding Roddy was correct last year; that he was right NOT to play Roddy. He’s going to prove Roddy wasn’t ready, can’t handle the pressure and he did. So his mission has been accomplished and he manipulated his other players to put the icing on the cake. You know, this type of "tactic" is used in corporate America every freaking day and 99% of the time it goes unnoticed because it is difficult to see or expose.

Rick Carlisle destroyed Roddy's confidence on purpose. How can you explain why just one week ago, RC is singing Roddy's praises, saying that he's going to stick with the kid and in less than a week, he changed his mind to pull Roddy... "It was Time”….in his words. He was just blowing smoke---he never liked Roddy.

That said, I hope Roddy stays on the inactive list permanently and traded so he has a chance to heal from the madness of Rick Carlisle and reach his potential. So whatever happens during this playoff run, Rick can take all the glory or not…

Btw, I will not be responding to the outbursts of my post. Everyone is free to their opinion, but I prefer to live a conscious life instead of being trapped in a reality cycle no matter how much it hurts.

Good luck Mavericks!

I can't fully agree with this Rick rant. We don't know if Roddy's permanent benching came from upper management (Donnie...that pre-playoff Q&A in the dmn was telling) or the results of leaders of the team calling for it.

He was inserted into the starting lineup because Roddy had chemistry with Kidd and Dirk. Rick didn't want to mess with the 2nd unit which was playing great. Roddy was either going to start or not play at all. However, Roddy's chemistry with Kidd and Dirk was the result of his off the ball movement. Roddy just had a knack of finding the open spot in the defense and you had two great passers at their position so they clicked. But Roddy's role changed this year. He was supposed to get open shots for Dirk, Kidd, and Peja with the ball being in his hand.

[markus1234]

Originally Posted by mavsman

And exactly at what point in yesterday's game would if have been a great idea to sub in Cardinal or Mahinmi? When we were building the massive lead or maybe when we were down two and needed a prayer? Hindsight is a great thing, but no single coach in the NBA would play the final minutes of yesterday's game with his scrubs when the regular ending five hasn't fouled out or is hurt.

2:29 64-42 Brandon Roy makes free throw 2 of 2
2:04 Jason Terry misses 24-foot three point jumper 64-42
2:01 Brendan Haywood offensive rebound 64-42
1:39 Shawn Marion misses 5-foot jumper 64-42
1:39 64-42 Nicolas Batum defensive rebound
1:31 64-44 LaMarcus Aldridge makes 5-foot hook shot (Wesley Matthews assists)
1:15 Peja Stojakovic makes 23-foot three point jumper (Jason Terry assists) 67-44
0:59 67-44 Brandon Roy bad pass (Peja Stojakovic steals)
0:38 Jose Juan Barea bad pass (LaMarcus Aldridge steals) 67-44
0:34 67-46 LaMarcus Aldridge makes two point shot (Brandon Roy assists)
0:10 Peja Stojakovic misses 25-foot three point jumper 67-46
0:08 67-46 LaMarcus Aldridge defensive rebound
0:01 67-49 Brandon Roy makes 25-foot three point jumper
0:00 Shawn Marion misses 57-foot three point jumper 67-49
0:00 Dallas offensive team rebound 67-49
4th Quarter Summary
TIME DALLAS SCORE PORTLAND
12:00 Start of the 4th Quarter
11:42 Jason Terry bad pass (LaMarcus Aldridge steals) 67-49
11:37 67-51 Gerald Wallace makes driving layup (LaMarcus Aldridge assists)
11:11 Jose Juan Barea misses 26-foot three point jumper 67-51
11:10 Dallas offensive team rebound 67-51
10:59 Peja Stojakovic makes 19-foot jumper (Jose Juan Barea assists) 69-51
10:38 69-54 Nicolas Batum makes 25-foot three point jumper (Brandon Roy assists)
10:18 Jason Terry makes 16-foot jumper (Jose Juan Barea assists) 71-54
10:08 71-56 Brandon Roy makes driving layup
9:48 71-56 LaMarcus Aldridge shooting foul (Jason Terry draws the foul)
9:48 Jason Kidd enters the game for Jose Juan Barea 71-56
9:48 Jason Terry makes free throw 1 of 2 72-56
9:48 Jason Terry makes free throw 2 of 2 73-56
9:33 73-58 LaMarcus Aldridge makes dunk (Gerald Wallace assists)
9:11 Dirk Nowitzki bad pass (LaMarcus Aldridge steals) 73-58
9:08 Jason Terry shooting foul (Rudy Fernandez draws the foul) 73-58
9:08 73-59 Rudy Fernandez makes free throw 1 of 2
9:08 73-60 Rudy Fernandez makes free throw 2 of 2
8:45 Jason Kidd misses 25-foot three point jumper 73-60
8:44 73-60 Nicolas Batum defensive rebound
8:26 73-62 Brandon Roy makes 5-foot jumper
8:26 Dallas full timeout
8:26 Tyson Chandler enters the game for Brendan Haywood 73-62
8:04 73-62 Nicolas Batum personal block (Dirk Nowitzki draws the foul)
8:04 DeShawn Stevenson enters the game for Jason Terry 73-62
7:50 Dirk Nowitzki misses 19-foot two point shot 73-62
7:48 73-62 Gerald Wallace defensive rebound
7:37 73-62 Brandon Roy misses 24-foot three point jumper
7:35 Tyson Chandler defensive rebound 73-62
7:24 Dirk Nowitzki makes 10-foot two point shot 75-62
7:05 75-64 LaMarcus Aldridge makes 13-foot jumper (Brandon Roy assists)
6:45 Dallas offensive team rebound 75-64
6:41 DeShawn Stevenson misses 24-foot three point jumper 75-64
6:41 75-64 Nicolas Batum defensive rebound
6:39 Tyson Chandler personal foul (Nicolas Batum draws the foul) 75-64
6:24 75-64 Gerald Wallace misses 25-foot three point jumper
6:22 75-64 Portland defensive team rebound
6:03 Peja Stojakovic misses 26-foot three point jumper 75-64
6:01 75-64 LaMarcus Aldridge defensive rebound
5:47 75-64 Rudy Fernandez misses 25-foot three point jumper
5:46 75-64 Brandon Roy offensive rebound
5:39 75-66 Brandon Roy makes 17-foot two point shot
5:20 75-66 Nicolas Batum shooting foul (Dirk Nowitzki draws the foul)
5:20 75-66 Official timeout
6:45 Nicolas Batum blocks Dirk Nowitzki's 7-foot two point shot 75-66
5:20 75-66 Wesley Matthews enters the game for Nicolas Batum
5:20 75-66 Andre Miller enters the game for Rudy Fernandez
5:20 Shawn Marion enters the game for Peja Stojakovic 75-66
5:20 Jason Terry enters the game for DeShawn Stevenson 75-66
5:20 Dirk Nowitzki makes free throw 1 of 2 76-66
5:20 Dirk Nowitzki makes free throw 2 of 2 77-66
5:07 77-66 LaMarcus Aldridge misses 20-foot jumper
5:07 Shawn Marion defensive rebound 77-66
4:46 Tyson Chandler misses 6-foot jumper 77-66
4:45 77-66 Brandon Roy defensive rebound
4:35 77-68 Andre Miller makes 13-foot jumper
4:15 Jason Terry misses 19-foot jumper 77-68
4:13 Dallas defensive team rebound 77-68
4:01 77-70 Brandon Roy makes 13-foot two point shot
3:32 Jason Terry makes 24-foot three point jumper (Dirk Nowitzki assists) 80-70
3:11 80-72 Wesley Matthews makes driving layup (Brandon Roy assists)
2:47 Jason Terry misses 17-foot jumper 80-72
2:46 80-72 Gerald Wallace defensive rebound
2:31 80-74 Brandon Roy makes driving layup
2:31 Dallas full timeout
2:31 80-74 Nicolas Batum enters the game for Andre Miller
2:15 Dirk Nowitzki offensive foul (Gerald Wallace draws the foul) 80-74
2:15 Dirk Nowitzki turnover 80-74
2:15 Portland full timeout
2:03 80-76 LaMarcus Aldridge makes 10-foot two point shot (Brandon Roy assists)
1:52 Jason Kidd lost ball (Wesley Matthews steals) 80-76
1:47 Shawn Marion personal foul (Brandon Roy draws the foul) 80-76
1:36 80-78 Brandon Roy makes 21-foot jumper (Gerald Wallace assists)
1:19 Shawn Marion makes jumper (Jason Kidd assists) 82-78
1:06 82-81 Brandon Roy makes 24-foot three point jumper
1:06 Shawn Marion shooting foul (Brandon Roy draws the foul) 82-81
1:06 82-82 Brandon Roy makes free throw 1 of 1
1:06 Dallas 20 Sec. timeout
1:00 82-82 Wesley Matthews personal foul (Jason Kidd draws the foul)
0:50 Jason Terry misses 24-foot three point jumper 82-82
0:49 Dallas defensive team rebound 82-82
0:39 82-84 Brandon Roy makes 9-foot two point shot
0:39 Dallas full timeout

This was a mistake
This was a 5min HORRIBLE lineup Why not Roddy ? why not Brewer ?

[JeffViggiano]

in that series our problem is Roddy's defense or matchup...what??is he injuries???ah.

[Marionsucks]

Originally Posted by mavsman

And exactly at what point in yesterday's game would if have been a great idea to sub in Cardinal or Mahinmi? When we were building the massive lead or maybe when we were down two and needed a prayer? Hindsight is a great thing, but no single coach in the NBA would play the final minutes of yesterday's game with his scrubs when the regular ending five hasn't fouled out or is hurt.

At the point when they cut the deficit to 8 points. Clearly I could see the Mavericks on their way to defeat at that point similar to many games in the past. Of course when the ball game was tied it was too late then to try to change something, thus they lost. If you asked Carlvile what he would of done differently he probably would have stuck with his same agenda because he has no clue.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

This will be my last post on this board…

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

Btw, I will not be responding to the outbursts of my post. Everyone is free to their opinion, but I prefer to live a conscious life instead of being trapped in a reality cycle no matter how much it hurts.

http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...c23705adf4e555

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[mavsman]

Originally Posted by Marionsucks

At the point when they cut the deficit to 8 points. Clearly I could see the Mavericks on their way to defeat at that point similar to many games in the past. Of course when the ball game was tied it was too late then to try to change something, thus they lost. If you asked Carlvile what he would of done differently he probably would have stuck with his same agenda because he has no clue.

That was around the 4:00 mark. So, what you are basically saying is, someone with a clue would sub in Brian Cardinal for Dirk and/or Ian Mahinmi for TC in the last 4 mins of a closely contested playoff-game. That's one way to look at it.

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by Neg Rep from She_Growls

Mentally ill

Hey, that's not cool, man. I'm hoping to get one of those reality cycles any day now so I can finally start living a conscious life.

Should be good for my cholesterol, too.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Hey, that's not cool, man. I'm hoping to get one of those reality cycles any day now so I can finally start living a conscious life.

Should be good for my cholesterol, too.

Haha, I got the same exact neg-rep comment...

Creative!

[Marionsucks]

Originally Posted by mavsman

That was around the 4:00 mark. So, what you are basically saying is, someone with a clue would sub in Brian Cardinal for Dirk and/or Ian Mahinmi for TC in the last 4 mins of a closely contested playoff-game. That's one way to look at it.

Well you absolutely have to try something is all I am saying. Why didin't Brewer at least get some pt?

[JeffViggiano]

carlisle says that Roddy will be ready to play when we will go out of PO.good.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Marionsucks

Well you absolutely have to try something is all I am saying. Why didin't Brewer at least get some pt?

At the end of the day the players have to play harder and better. Every thing is not fixable with a lineup change.

[mavsfan1000]

Too bad about Roddy's injury. He could've been a real difference maker.

[nwtzk]

I hope Roddy can see some action on Game 6.

[PartywithDirk]

Originally Posted by She_Growls

This will be my last post on this board…

First, I don't hide the fact that I don't like RC, basically after what happened during the playoffs last season. He was unbelievably outcoached and “exposed" as an incompetent coach. This was followed by the sports media who harshly criticized Rick for how he handled Roddy and basically asked the question, why he didn't play Roddy down the stretch of the last game which booted the Mavs out of the 1st round? During all of this criticism and questioning, Rick NEVER admitted his errors or mistake in regards to his rotations during the Spurs series and stuck by his decision to this day.

Fast forward, 2011. Roddy is inserted into the starting lineup (not sure why, since 1) he’s basically still a Rookie and 2) he's coming off a serious foot injury). Nevertheless, the first few games Roddy is decent. As time goes by, Roddy's mins begins to decrease; he is benched for basic mistakes made by his teammates and unaware when he will return, 3rdQ, 4thQ, next game? Uncertainty/ anxiety creep in. Why wouldn't you lose confidence? Why wouldn't you feel pressure? Why wouldn't you be confused? Everyone is in your ear, do this and do that. Now Roddy is not playing by his natural given talent, but robotically. Was he setup to fail?

My question is why did Rick Carlisle insert Roddy into the starting lineup in the first place? He should have come off the bench and yes, he deserved to get sufficient minutes to prove himself. If you are about giving Roddy a chance and genuinely trying to build his confidence, what makes you think Roddy or any player can build confidence, when he gets benched for every mistake he makes and looking over his shoulders? Was Roddy setup to fail? Is Roddy really as bad as he appeared to look or was it psychological?

Well, I do believe Roddy was "overexposed"; however, I think it was by design and intentional by Rick Carlisle. Since he can't admit he made a mistake last season, Roddy is Rick's Achilles' heel. I'm sure RC was sick of hearing about "Free Roddy" from the fans. He was also probably sick of the FO insistence that Roddy be played significant minutes and we all know how stubborn he is. He was going to ensure he got his way and he did at Roddy’s expense.

Rick needs to vindicate himself this season; not sure with whom. He needs to prove that his decision regarding Roddy was correct last year; that he was right NOT to play Roddy. He’s going to prove Roddy wasn’t ready, can’t handle the pressure and he did. So his mission has been accomplished and he manipulated his other players to put the icing on the cake. You know, this type of "tactic" is used in corporate America every freaking day and 99% of the time it goes unnoticed because it is difficult to see or expose.

Rick Carlisle destroyed Roddy's confidence on purpose. How can you explain why just one week ago, RC is singing Roddy's praises, saying that he's going to stick with the kid and in less than a week, he changed his mind to pull Roddy... "It was Time”….in his words. He was just blowing smoke---he never liked Roddy.

That said, I hope Roddy stays on the inactive list permanently and traded so he has a chance to heal from the madness of Rick Carlisle and reach his potential. So whatever happens during this playoff run, Rick can take all the glory or not…

Btw, I will not be responding to the outbursts of my post. Everyone is free to their opinion, but I prefer to live a conscious life instead of being trapped in a reality cycle no matter how much it hurts.

Good luck Mavericks!

Interesting take....when did they change the name of the team to the Dallas Roddy B's? I must've missed that.

Feel free to continue worrying about the mindset of a player who may or may not end up being a contributor on an NBA team. I'll continue to root for the Mavs.