This Season's Roster Outlook

[hayth.james.g]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Anyone else think that by game one, Famous, N'Dour, Jenkins, and Ashley are all waived? And we'll have no young talent. Anderson goes down to D-League, Powell plays at the end of the bench.

lol and your title is Resident Optimist

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by Vinsanity

I feel like Ndour and Jenkins will make the team, and Anderson will get a lot of playing time now that Jefferson is gone. I think the front office is preparing for the post Dirk era without making it obvious. Why else would we sign all these young players with potential? Normally at this point of the offseason we're loading up on 35 year old veterans. Instead we're trying to find young guys that can turn into good players or at least assets. I like this approach considering the state of our team currently.

Me too. Better late than never.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Vinsanity

I feel like Ndour and Jenkins will make the team, and Anderson will get a lot of playing time now that Jefferson is gone. I think the front office is preparing for the post Dirk era without making it obvious. Why else would we sign all these young players with potential? Normally at this point of the offseason we're loading up on 35 year old veterans. Instead we're trying to find young guys that can turn into good players or at least assets. I like this approach considering the state of our team currently.

Underrated post.

[rimrocker]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Anyone else think that by game one, Famous, N'Dour, Jenkins, and Ashley are all waived? And we'll have no young talent. Anderson goes down to D-League, Powell plays at the end of the bench.

Mavs should keep as many of these guys on the roster as possible along with vets with expirings to have some potential trade pieces at TDL.
Even if they don't fit they might make a big enough splash to be worthy of being included in a package with an expiring vet.

Wright and Crowder turned out to be tradable assets and Aminu had trade value last season.

If there's a decent player on a crappy team that could be useful to us the following season, one of those young guys could make the difference.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I'm just wondering if casual fans are going to show up to games this season. I honestly don't hate Dalembert, but gosh does this feel like reversing back to the past. Are we really going to try and struggle for a playoff spot? Just feels like this is going to be a looong season.

[FreshJive]

@ShamsCharania: Forward Jamil Wilson has agreed on a partially guaranteed deal with the Dallas Mavericks, sources tell RealGM. Second year out of Marquette.

[ddh33]

Wilson supposedly was playing better than all of Marquette's other wings in practice.

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by ddh33

Wilson supposedly was playing better than all of Marquette's other wings in practice.

I really hope you meant this as a joke because it made me crack up.

My guess at the final 15.... we haven't been afraid to throw cash around so I see Felton getting waived.

Zaza - Sammy D - Famous
Dirk - Charlie V - Powell - N'Dour
Parsons - Anderson - Evans
Wes - Harris - Jenkins
Williams - Barea

[purplefrog]

Originally Posted by tap2390

I really hope you meant this as a joke because it made me crack up.

My guess at the final 15.... we haven't been afraid to throw cash around so I see Felton getting waived.

Zaza - Sammy D - Famous
Dirk - Charlie V - Powell - N'Dour
Parsons - Anderson - Evans
Wes - Harris - Jenkins
Williams - Barea

Still see rebounding as a big problem. I'd like to see them sign someone could play the 4/5 and rebound, but not a total liability on offense. I actually wouldn't mind Boozer if you could get him at the vet minimum. His defense sucks but at least he consistently averages about 6-7 rebounds per game. Or if they could trade Felton, someone like Humphries. Wizards have Wall and Sessions at PG. Not sure if they re-signed Will Bynum but there could be a need there.

[Kante]

Like the Dalembert signing, Zaza and him sounds pretty good, considering the option the Mavs had...

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Anyone else think that by game one, Famous, N'Dour, Jenkins, and Ashley are all waived? And we'll have no young talent. Anderson goes down to D-League, Powell plays at the end of the bench.

Aside from Anderson, I think this is a likely scenario.

[NeedlesKane]

Has Jeremy Evans signed yet? I am worried that he is going to back out as well. Also do the Mavs have at least verbal agreements with at least partially guaranteed contracts with 17 players?

I watched a video suggesting that we had Bernard James still. I feel like that is wrong.

I feel like we have Deron Williams, Wesley Matthews, Chandler Parsons, Dirk Nowitzki, Zaza Pachulia, J.J. Barea, Devin Harris, Jeremy Evans, Charlie Villanueva, Samuel Dalembert, Raymond Felton, John Jenkins, Justin Anderson, Maurice Ndour, Dwight Powell, Brandon Ashley, and Jarrid Famous. I didn't include our 2nd round pick since I feel like he is definitely playing overseas. He is NOT NBA ready.

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Has Jeremy Evans signed yet? I am worried that he is going to back out as well. Also do the Mavs have at least verbal agreements with at least partially guaranteed contracts with 17 players?

I watched a video suggesting that we had Bernard James still. I feel like that is wrong.

I feel like we have Deron Williams, Wesley Matthews, Chandler Parsons, Dirk Nowitzki, Zaza Pachulia, J.J. Barea, Devin Harris, Jeremy Evans, Charlie Villanueva, Samuel Dalembert, Raymond Felton, John Jenkins, Justin Anderson, Maurice Ndour, Dwight Powell, Brandon Ashley, and Jarrid Famous. I didn't include our 2nd round pick since I feel like he is definitely playing overseas. He is NOT NBA ready.

He has signed and has been working out in Dallas.

[mxr2000]

I like Salah Mejiri he is 7'1 C ,very athletic, can run very well the court, good ball handling ability, very good Defense and high basketball IQ. look like a Goo fit for RC system too!!

[NeedlesKane]

Gonna suck cutting so many guys for a team that will likely struggle to make the playoffs. I hope Salah Mejiri does well.

[BigDog63]

Originally Posted by Underdog

You're not moving Dirk to the bench for Kenneth friggin' Faried...

^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

Talk of Dirk to the bench is VERY premature. Yes, it probably made some sense if LMA came here (which is when it was brought up), but Faried is no LMA. I think Dirk's offense will come back...it was already coming back towards the end of the season. But, yes, he looked very stiff defensively. That being said...who lit him up? Chandler's value wasn't in protecting Dirk...it was in protecting the rim when their guards blew by our guards.

[GermanStandard]

They said that they are ready to eat a cap hit if they can find the diamond in the rough. Thats why they are bringing in all these young guys on partially guaranteed contracts. Most of them are Camp Material but maybe one or two stick.

Between Mejiri, Famous, Ndour and Ashley only one or two at best will stick.

We really need to get rid of Felton. I think they will just strech him and put him on Waivers. He just eats a Roster Spot for a young guy that could show off.

Williams/Barea/Harris
Matthews/Anderson/Jenkins
Parsons/Anderson/Evans
Dirk/Powell/Villanueva/Ndour
Pachulia/Dalembert/ X

X= Mejiri, Famous or Ashley


There is your 15 Man Roster.

[Kante]

Originally Posted by tap2390

He has signed and has been working out in Dallas.

Not signed yet.

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by BigDog63

Chandler's value wasn't in protecting Dirk...it was in protecting the rim when their guards blew by our guards.

This isn't mentioned near enough. The fact that we got slaughtered in dribble penetration thanks to absolutely no perimeter defense. We were also abysmal at stopping the 3 because dribble and kick's. If our perimeter defense can improve with Matthews hopefully being healthy, having a guy like Anderson, and to a smaller extent even Dwill has to be better than Jameer or JJB I would think... then I think our rebounding numbers would improve as well. Don't see as many second chance points off long jump shots as you do attacks right at the rim.I'm not saying we will be top 15 or anything but I would bet we won't be dead last like last year if we have improved perimeter defense.

Also on the Felton topic, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the reason we have not stretched/waived him is because his 4m salary would be important in acquiring a player someone may want to dump. So I think they are just keeping the options open and nobody left in free agency is worth the money we could gain back from the stretch of felton.

[tap2390]

Originally Posted by Kante

Not signed yet.

Hmm his Twitter say forward for the Mavs. He must not be signed because we're using up the cap room before signing the minimum contracts.

[erdubya]

I'll put money on the center situation looking differently by the trade deadline... Hold on mavsnation.

[Underdog]

@BallinWithBryan: Dallas has officially signed forwards Jamil Wilson and Brandon Ashley. Here is more info from the official release

[BPo001]

Marc Stein: Grizzlies, Thunder, Mavericks … first three teams I’ve heard as expected suitors for free agent-to-be Mike Miller
– via Twitter ESPNSteinLine

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Marc Stein: Grizzlies, Thunder, Mavericks … first three teams I’ve heard as expected suitors for free agent-to-be Mike Miller
– via Twitter ESPNSteinLine

[EricaLubarsky]

A playoff hero who isn't a hero any more playing for a team that isn't probably playoff bound?

[Vinsanity]

Bet Mike Miller ends up on the Thunder. We have no need for him and couldn't imagine why he would willingly come here.

[BigDog63]

Originally Posted by BPo001

Marc Stein: Grizzlies, Thunder, Mavericks … first three teams I’ve heard as expected suitors for free agent-to-be Mike Miller
– via Twitter ESPNSteinLine

That would be great, he would fix our issues with defense and rebounding! Oh, wait.....

[Underdog]

@bobbykaralla: In this AJC story, John Jenkins says the key to coming off the bench is staying ready. A true Carlisle disciple. http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/baske...2014_hawks_sfp

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Underdog

@bobbykaralla: In this AJC story, John Jenkins says the key to coming off the bench is staying ready. A true Carlisle disciple. http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/baske...2014_hawks_sfp

I think the "be ready' approach is much easier for younger players than older ones. I'm not sure someone like Dirk would do well coming off the bench. Perhaps that is why there might be a perception of Carlisle favoring veterans?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I think the "be ready' approach is much easier for younger players than older ones. I'm not sure someone like Dirk would do well coming off the bench. Perhaps that is why there might be a perception of Carlisle favoring veterans?

Could be, but a lot of veterans that Carlisle favors actually come off the bench -- guys like Peja, Carter and Jefferson have completely embodied the "be ready" mantra.

[Melonhead]

Why not go after boozer? True backup for dirk and could eat minutes at 5 if needed.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Why not go after boozer? True backup for dirk and could eat minutes at 5 if needed.

Ty Lawson is a guard... And he went to Houston.

Or did you mean to capitalize Boozer?

[purplefrog]

Originally Posted by Melonhead

Why not go after boozer? True backup for dirk and could eat minutes at 5 if needed.

My guess on Boozer is that he probably wants more than the vet minimum. Mavs still have their room exception but they may be holding that for sometime down the road. I would be happy with a Boozer (note capital 'B') signing. He consistently grabs about 6-7 rebounds a game and is still a potent threat on offense. There is not much left on the market, so you could do a lot worse. But then again, Mavs may want to wait and see who shows up on the waiver wire or they are still trying to decide if McGee is healthy enough to sign.

[DGM]

Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

Gonna suck cutting so many guys for a team that will likely struggle to make the playoffs. I hope Salah Mejiri does well.

Come on Needles, the glass may be half full.

[NeedlesKane]

Originally Posted by DGM

Come on Needles, the glass may be half full.

I hope we don't waste a spot on Mike Miller. I say give him a shot during training camp, but then cut him if he doesn't flourish as Charlie Villanueva did last year.

Also since I like Charlie Villanueva so much I don't want to see the Mavs entertaining an offer to Carlos Boozer unless it is also a non-guaranteed one during the pre-season. I doubt Boozer won't get something better than that though by another team.

[EricaLubarsky]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53v1NBNyG9A
Finals 2014 highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uakgb9g-m6w
block and dunk

Mejri seems like a cool, humble, and athletic dude.

That said, he hasn't signed. We are just pursuing him at this point

[DGM]

Originally Posted by NeedlesKane

I hope we don't waste a spot on Mike Miller. I say give him a shot during training camp, but then cut him if he doesn't flourish as Charlie Villanueva did last year.

Also since I like Charlie Villanueva so much I don't want to see the Mavs entertaining an offer to Carlos Boozer unless it is also a non-guaranteed one during the pre-season. I doubt Boozer won't get something better than that though by another team.

Agreed, Mike Miller and Boozer are not what we need. If the youngsters show anything then they should get the minutes. Charlie V. is a dependable player who stays ready and doesn't whine. He seem genuinely appreciative to the Mavs for giving him a chance. He's a good backup for Dirk.

[yahyes]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53v1NBNyG9A
Finals 2014 highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uakgb9g-m6w
block and dunk

Mejri seems like a cool, humble, and athletic dude.

That said, he hasn't signed. We are just pursuing him at this point

Players from Spain have been able to adapt well into the NBA. I look at this as a look on whether to go with Satnam or Mejri.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by DGM

Agreed, Mike Miller and Boozer are not what we need. If the youngsters show anything then they should get the minutes. Charlie V. is a dependable player who stays ready and doesn't whine. He seem genuinely appreciative to the Mavs for giving him a chance. He's a good backup for Dirk.

I think MBT would prefer Charlie V.in spot minutes- sort of like last season.
A lot hinges on Powell's continued development. If he can improve his rebounding and defense enough to play 20 reliable minutes per night we should be set. Still would love to see Taj Gibson here somehow...

[Melonhead]

Originally Posted by DGM

Agreed, Mike Miller and Boozer are not what we need. If the youngsters show anything then they should get the minutes. Charlie V. is a dependable player who stays ready and doesn't whine. He seem genuinely appreciative to the Mavs for giving him a chance. He's a good backup for Dirk.

Not fair to lump Boozer in with Miller. One can still play. I understand not needing Miller. Plenty of guards, he has no reason to be here. Just let go by the cavs. He brings no addition to the bench.

But Boozer can grab you 7 rebounds a night. He likes to get a little physical, bang around somewhat. We dont have anyone that does that on the roster right now. Totally different player than CV. And would be a great counter to CV. If he accepts minimum.