05-22-2022, 10:27 PM
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That’s not a bad foul, Reggie?
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05-22-2022, 10:27 PM
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#162
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Originally Posted by JTmoney2424
Just think, most of us thought the Mavs matched up well with Golden State before series started.
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I'm guilty of that for sure
I figured Powell and Kleber finally had a series where they could match up with the other teams size.
I was wrong our bigs are just garbage regardless of size
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05-22-2022, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
Generational talents don’t play like this in these type of games. Terrible look on Luka. His stock is plummeting tonight .
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Not it didn’t. He’s surrounded by a bunch of role players who didn’t play their role tonight.
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05-22-2022, 10:29 PM
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Just horrible.
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05-22-2022, 10:29 PM
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Poor Nick Wright
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05-22-2022, 10:29 PM
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Man JB needs new shoes. He’s slipped several times tonight.
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05-22-2022, 10:30 PM
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I guess you can blame me since I said I would give up being swept by GS as long as we beat Phx.
And matching up better doesn't mean you're more talented. GS is far more talented than Phx or Utah. That's the difference.
I just feel like everything was expended on the first two series. You can just kinda feel it. I personally just am not into this like I was the first two. Can't really explain why, either.
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05-22-2022, 10:30 PM
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No call? Refs trying to go home.
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05-22-2022, 10:31 PM
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I think its just coaching at this point. Need to solve their double team on Luka at thr top. I thought Luka would handle it better because of his dribbling. Mavs are scared. No swagger at all. Men showed who the boys are in this series.
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05-22-2022, 10:31 PM
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Our bigs are just straight trash. Kleber, Bull, and DFS are so streaky. Our 2020 draft really did screw us over badly.
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05-22-2022, 10:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
I'm guilty of that for sure
I figured Powell and Kleber finally had a series where they could match up with the other teams size.
I was wrong our bigs are just garbage regardless of size
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What can change for next season? This seems like they are at their peak since Powell is slated for next year.
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05-22-2022, 10:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon2
I think its just coaching at this point. Need to solve their double team on Luka at thr top. I thought Luka would handle it better because of his dribbling. Mavs are scared. No swagger at all. Men showed who the boys are in this series.
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Kidd’s fault Maxi and Bullock are combined 0-15 tonight? Those 2 look scared.. scared to shoot.
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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We’ll this season is over
I’m happy that we made it to the WCF
Retool the roster. Give us a full season with the whole squad. Hire an offensive coach.
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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Can't get stops so it's pointless
BTW LUka's #'s are going to look awesome but if we are unbiased dude does need to work his defense
He got absolutely destroyed this series on the defensive end of the floor.
It seems like everyone blew by him in less than 3 seconds of man defense
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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Kleber and Powell lost us this series.
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05-22-2022, 10:33 PM
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Dagger.
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05-22-2022, 10:34 PM
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Crazy how in a game that never went above 12, it was decided from the tip-off.
Mavs never had a single chance to win.
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05-22-2022, 10:35 PM
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Fuck the fans leaving
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05-22-2022, 10:35 PM
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Fuck the fans leaving
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Why stay? Team looks like they quit too.
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05-22-2022, 10:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
Generational talents don’t play like this in these type of games. Terrible look on Luka. His stock is plummeting tonight .
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Lmao his first 25 playoff games are on the same level as Wilt and Jordan. No one else is in the club.
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Team needs a FT coach
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BPo001
Not it didn’t. He’s surrounded by a bunch of role players who didn’t play their role tonight.
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Exactly. The mavs have failed Luka in his career this far. They should be ashamed and if I’m Luka, I’m giving this failed experiment one more season then I’m wanting out.
A talent like his can’t be wasted surrounded by a bunch of glorified role players.
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Dallas41
Can't get stops so it's pointless
BTW LUka's #'s are going to look awesome but if we are unbiased dude does need to work his defense
He got absolutely destroyed this series on the defensive end of the floor.
It seems like everyone blew by him in less than 3 seconds of man defense
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Needing to rely on Luka for defense when your team is stock full of 3 and D players is ridiculous.
Maybe after we lose the series we'll discuss how he needs to pass it more too...yikes.
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Must be nice for Golden State to have so many clutch shooters. This team is just outgunned
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05-22-2022, 10:37 PM
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Why stay? Team looks like they quit too.
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Outmatched is not the same as quit. What a garbage take
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05-22-2022, 10:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTmoney2424
What can change for next season? This seems like they are at their peak since Powell is slated for next year.
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Mo Bamba might be their cheapest option but then again I'm not sure the Mavs are going to move on from Powell
The dude is just valuable in the locker room I guess
Remember even with KP on the roster Powell was still starting at center
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05-22-2022, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Needing to rely on Luka for defense when your team is stock full of 3 and D players is ridiculous.
Maybe after we lose the series we'll discuss how he needs to pass it more too...yikes.
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IT's ok man
Luka is great but let's be real he does need to get better defensively.
Sure you can blame the other players but Luka has to be held accountable by being able to hold up for at least 4-5 seconds in man to man defense.
When you get blown by on every defensive possession within 2 seconds that hurts your team defense as a whole.
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05-22-2022, 10:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004
Exactly. The mavs have failed Luka in his career this far. They should be ashamed and if I’m Luka, I’m giving this failed experiment one more season then I’m wanting out.
A talent like his can’t be wasted surrounded by a bunch of glorified role players.
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So how does this plummet Luka’s stock like you said in the original post? And how is making it to the Western Conference Finals failing? This team far surpassed expectations for this season.
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05-22-2022, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Kleber and Powell lost us this series.
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That's a combined 20 million dollars tied up into the Center tandem.
Oh well it was a good season without question
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05-22-2022, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by JTmoney2424
What can change for next season? This seems like they are at their peak since Powell is slated for next year.
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Nothing. We will probably regress due to the 2019 free agency failure coupled with the 2020 draft disaster. Not sure what the path forward is but I am sure the MBT have a great plan.
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05-22-2022, 10:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dallas41
IT's ok man
Luka is great but let's be real he does need to get better defensively.
Sure you can blame the other players but Luka has to be held accountable by being able to hold up for at least 4-5 seconds in man to man defense.
When you get blown by on every defensive possession within 2 seconds that hurts your team defense as a whole.
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His defense is actually decent. Wasn't great this series, but it's more than acceptable overall. Coming into shape and making fts is fair criticism.
Again, the entire design of this team was surrounding him with defenders. His usually decent D wouldn't have changed the series.
Guys that didn't show made sure this wasn't a series.
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05-22-2022, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
So how does this plummet Luka’s stock like you said in the original post? And how is making it to the Western Conference Finals failing? This team far surpassed expectations for this season.
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It doesn't. It was a moronic comment. Like I said in a previous post, we will look back in a few years when this roster of replacement level players are out the league and wonder how in the fuck did Luka lead this cast of characters to the conference finals.
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05-22-2022, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Melonhead
Outmatched is not the same as quit. What a garbage take
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That’s fair. I shouldn’t say they quit. Just saw them get out hustled and out played all game. Tough to watch. Gave up too many offensive rebounds. This team needs a big man in the worst way.
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05-22-2022, 10:52 PM
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And it's silly fans going off that the AAC wasn't lout enough. Of course not. No MFFL can afford 800 avg a ticket. That's just stupid money. So of course the Arena is full of highland park/uptown people that have never been to a game before.
Cuban has himself to blame for that. The way those tickets were sold was absolutely stupid.
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05-22-2022, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon2
I think its just coaching at this point. Need to solve their double team on Luka at thr top. I thought Luka would handle it better because of his dribbling. Mavs are scared. No swagger at all. Men showed who the boys are in this series.
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Dude its about talent. We are playing 3 future hall of famers plus a high quality Wiggins. Other than Luka there is no other player on this team that can sniff an all star game let alone the HOF
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05-22-2022, 10:58 PM
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It doesn't. It was a moronic comment. Like I said in a previous post, we will look back in a few years when this roster of replacement level players are out the league and wonder how in the fuck did Luka lead this cast of characters to the conference finals.
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Yep, they do have some solid players like Brunson and Spencer when his head is on right but overall, the rest of the guys are bench players on other playoff teams but starters over here. There are so many one dimensional players who have only one skill set and if they aren’t making 3s, they are a black hole offensively. Golden State has so many players that can hurt you in multiple ways. I can’t see them not winning the title this year.
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05-22-2022, 11:00 PM
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Quote:
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Dude its about talent. We are playing 3 future hall of famers plus a high quality Wiggins. Other than Luka there is no other player on this team that can sniff an all star game let alone the HOF
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Yes. Its about talent as well. However, its not all about talent. Need to put players in a position to win. Whether its motivational or strategic.
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05-22-2022, 11:03 PM
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Quote:
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Yes. Its about talent as well. However, its not all about talent. Need to put players in a position to win. Whether its motivational or strategic.
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It helps when guys make shots. Bullock and Maxi killed us this game. This guys were given wide open looks all game.
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05-22-2022, 11:07 PM
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Even if Mavs lose this series, I still think they are headed in the right direction. I see it as paying their dues. Most champion teams go thru the gauntlet to become studs. Dirk had SAS and Utah. Even Jordan had the Pistons. My hope is the Mavs get better. Luka needs to get stronger. Mentally and physically. He is friends with Green and Curry and he didn’t bully them. He needs to realize there are no friends to win it all. I hope he chats with Jordan or Dirk to get to the next level. I was guilty of thinking they would go thru the Warriors but the Dubs are just on another level. They have the confidence. Its like MJ playing with Barkley. He knew he would beat them. I am still hoping Mavs make a series of this. They would be need be more aggressive and to believe they are better. Also, Kidd needs to do more pick and rolls/
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05-22-2022, 11:18 PM
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Quote:
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It helps when guys make shots. Bullock and Maxi killed us this game. This guys were given wide open looks all game.
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Bullock and Maxi were non factors. If Bullock is not useful defensively and he can’t hit threes, he’s basically dead weight. Powell and DFS were also non factors. Then again, all of this is a bonus after the 1st round. These are still valuable games from an experience standpoint. I hope the Mavs are observing and the coaches and players realize what they need to do next year.
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