Heroes

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by sike

....most about this episode was the lack of the prof's son and his sikekick chick...both of those characters blow.

sike...such shameless self promotion....

anyway, I finally saw this weeks episode so I can open the thread up.... good stuff! That was a good one. Things are starting to pick up a little now.

I love Hiro. He's so goofy. The future version of him is almost a let-down. And what was with the sword on his back? How far ahead does it have to be in the future that he learned perfect english, and some martial arts as well?

[Dtownsfinest]

Sylar is Peter from the future, having learned how to absorb others powers and keep them

Doesn't this sort of rule out since Hiro actually talked face to face with Peter? Wouldn't have it been easier to just kill him then if he was Sylar? Or is Sylar not a threat to these people at this point?

[sike]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Doesn't this sort of rule out since Hiro actually talked face to face with Peter? Wouldn't have it been easier to just kill him then if he was Sylar? Or is Sylar not a threat to these people at this point?

its a very interesting prospect though....but I think Peter is pretty much our hero at this point...

Hiro is without a doubt the most well acted character.

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by sike

its a very interesting prospect though....but I think Peter is pretty much our hero at this point...

Hiro is without a doubt the most well acted character.

I agree with these things.

even though on principle I must disagree with sike because he is a scary mutant alien.

maybe he is Sylar....

[Big Boy Laroux]

finally got around to watching this past episode. i liked it, except for hiro visiting from the future. yeah, it was a neat scene, but that was one of the biggest deus ex machina scenes i've ever seen on TV. but i guess having someone who can time travel lends itself to those kind of scenes.

i thought the flying scenes could have come off as cheesy, but they worked... well, except for his landing.

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

finally got around to watching this past episode. i liked it, except for hiro visiting from the future. yeah, it was a neat scene, but that was one of the biggest deus ex machina scenes i've ever seen on TV. but i guess having someone who can time travel lends itself to those kind of scenes.

i thought the flying scenes could have come off as cheesy, but they worked... well, except for his landing.

eh the landing wasn't so bad. i liked watching him and Hiro interact...then again, Hiro interacting with anyone is pretty funny.

[Big Boy Laroux]

just the close-up shot of him sliding across the ground seemed a little cheesy.

[sike]

it would have been tons better if he had face planted and died

also...did you get the impression that the flying bro has known about this ability for a while now?

[Flacolaco]

Interesting episode tonight.

I'm growing impacient with Nikki's story, in that I can't see the connection to the others yet.

I knew that small chick Eden or whatever he name is was evil. The painter is in trouble. I could've done with more Hiro and Peter today and less Nikki. We had our first little super-hero fight though.

[Nash13]

I'm with Flaco, they seem to be dragging her story out while giving the cop the plunger. It's time to get to the point.

Good episode but my DVR cut off before the preview for next week's episode came up.

[sike]

you gotta love my precious bride....she canceled our DVR's recording of Heroes so she could watch an Oprah rerun.


is cold blooded murder always wrong?

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by sike

you gotta love my precious bride....she canceled our DVR's recording of Heroes so she could watch an Oprah rerun.


is cold blooded murder always wrong?

I'm pretty sure Oprah is Sylar from the future. Your wife might need to ducktape her head to keep Oprah out of her brain.

That episode had some of what should have been cool stuff, but overall was kinda a drag. It sorta felt like a filler clause in the middle of a run-on sentence. The series needs more definite short term goals. The audience needs some closure at least every couple of weeks.

[Flacolaco]

Originally Posted by sike

you gotta love my precious bride....she canceled our DVR's recording of Heroes so she could watch an Oprah rerun.


is cold blooded murder always wrong?

OPRAH??????

that's ok. if only there was some way to use the internet to obtain this episode....

[jthig32]

Man, I LOVED last night's episode. I find Nikki's character to be really interesting, plus we discovered so much more about her story.

Last night connected several more dots. Very nice episode.

[irontoad]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Man, I LOVED last night's episode. I find Nikki's character to be really interesting, plus we discovered so much more about her story.

Plus she is very hot. Definitely can't overlook that.

[sike]

hey guys...I know you posted here before...thiggy I think, but how can I watch the episode online??? I looked at NBC's website....but couldn't find it....little help?

[jthig32]

I feel ya Sike. Those vids are well hidden, front and center on NBC's main page.

Click me.

[sike]

I love/hate you thiggy...

I love you for the video

I hate you for everything else

I think I've come to peace with it...have you?

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Man, I LOVED last night's episode. I find Nikki's character to be really interesting, plus we discovered so much more about her story.

Last night connected several more dots. Very nice episode.

lemme guess - you like Ghey's Anatomy, too. And probly Desperate Housewives.

I guess they gotta add something for everyone.
The fight was good to have. But come on, get with the good v. evil already. Enough with the ambiguities.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

lemme guess - you like Ghey's Anatomy, too. And probly Desperate Housewives.

I guess they gotta add something for everyone.
The fight was good to have. But come on, get with the good v. evil already. Enough with the ambiguities.

Yes, I do in fact like Grey's Anatomy. I do not like Desperate Housewives.

These "ambiguities" are called character development, and they're essential for a good show. This is not an action movie.

And if you're looking for closure every couple of weeks then you're watching the wrong show. It is very obvious they are patterning their overall series like Lost, with a big, long mystery that sucks everyone in, and character development that keeps (most) everyone around.

Whether they can be as successful at it as Lost remains to be seen, but I think it's obvious that's what they're going for.

[Flacolaco]

I wonder if NBC takes into consideration the number of times episodes get watched on the internet when deciding a shows fate....

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by sike

I love/hate you thiggy...

I love you for the video

I hate you for everything else

I think I've come to peace with it...have you?

You love/love me Sikey, and you know it.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

I wonder if NBC takes into consideration the number of times episodes get watched on the internet when deciding a shows fate....

I would have to think that it's a miniscule number in comparison to their overall ratings.

[Flacolaco]

I know....I was just remembering hearing that the number of iTunes downloads of The Office was important in the shows first season and 1st half of 2nd season.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

I know....I was just remembering hearing that the number of iTunes downloads of The Office was important in the shows first season and 1st half of 2nd season.

Well, I'm sure it is important to them, because anyone willing to download a show or watch it online is obviously a very core fan.

But I have to think it would it would have to be an extremely large number to sway advertisers in any way.

Or it would have to be a show like The Office, that's not serieal, so people can jump in at any time, and also cheap, so they can afford to keep doing it in hopes it catches on, as The Office did.

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Yes, I do in fact like Grey's Anatomy. I do not like Desperate Housewives.

These "ambiguities" are called character development, and they're essential for a good show. This is not an action movie.

clear character development is one thing. If you look above, you'll see that one reason I really like this show is that it shares a premise with Unbreakable, which was a superhero movie that was all about the development of the superhero, with almost all of the action implied in the suspense. The people of Heroes are bordering on something else. There is character development by way of action - how the characters approach a task/goal situation, and character development by way of relationship. I like both, but because of the balance of what's on tv right now, I prefer the latter to be at a minimum so that I don't overdose. Either type of development can spin into a directionless wash. That's what I'm afraid will happen to this show, which I quite like.

And if you're looking for closure every couple of weeks then you're watching the wrong show. It is very obvious they are patterning their overall series like Lost, with a big, long mystery that sucks everyone in,

The more people think this, the less people will watch. They need to separate themselves from that genre. There is a balance to be struck. Give people an occasional sense of closure, instead of two new questions for every answered one.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

The more people think this, the less people will watch. They need to separate themselves from that genre. There is a balance to be struck. Give people an occasional sense of closure, instead of two new questions for every answered one.

Well, I honestly don't think you're going to get your wish. The entire show is based around questions at this point.

I guess I'm confused as to what kind of closure you want at this point. We got a few clues last night, and found out a ton more about Nikki.

If you just don't like the character, I understand, but I guess I don't get what you want from the show at this point.

I personally like how it's moving. Several of the characters have made contact with each other, and others' lives are intersecting without them realizing it.

At this point I'm most fascinated by the cheerleader's dad. I just can't decide if he's actually bad or not. I think he is, but I can't decide.

[Flacolaco]

we found out a ton more about Nikki, but how is she EVER going to help anyone "Save the cheerleader, save the world" ??

She can't even help herself....herselves?

Or is she going to want to kill the cheerleader?

I sitll think Claire is in the most danger from her father.

I missed the Cop this episode.

[jthig32]

Originally Posted by Flacolaco

we found out a ton more about Nikki, but how is she EVER going to help anyone "Save the cheerleader, save the world" ??

She can't even help herself....herselves?

Or is she going to want to kill the cheerleader?

I sitll think Claire is in the most danger from her father.

I missed the Cop this episode.

It's possible she may not play a role in that plotline at all. I don't expect them to all come together immediately.

Heck, for all we know she could turn out to be an enemy.

I dunno, her story just really intrigues. Now we have to figure out how she's going to reconcile between her alter ego and her family. Very interesting.

I missed the cop too. That's another one that looks like he's going to forge his own storyline for now rather than coming into contact with Peter and Hiro.

[u2sarajevo]

This episode was alright. Not fantastic like last week. I KNEW those bio-parents weren't real. You would have to be an idiot to think he would have actually brought in her real ones (if they are indeed alive still). Wouldn't that be something if the real bio-father is cop and some as yet unseen superhero?

I think that comic book 9th something.... is important somehow.

Also, the narrator left us thinking hot is dead. I aint buying it. And I see you guys aren't either.

I loved how they put the "To be continued...." up on the screen... because I was really wondering if they were going to continue it.

[Nash13]

could somebody tell me about the preview for next week's episode?

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by u2sarajevo

I think that comic book 9th something.... is important somehow.

9th wonder - that's the one the artist has been drawing?
I think the kid was reading the one with Hiro in New York.
... or was your whole post sarcasm. It's so hard to tell with you spy plane pilots

[u2sarajevo]

Originally Posted by Nash13

could somebody tell me about the preview for next week's episode?

didn't watch it..... but here is my guess:

hot is alive. Cheerleader hurts herself again but gets fixed up automagically. Poppa mystery and India's neighbor abduct painter-boy and have his memory "cleaned".

[u2sarajevo]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

9th wonder - that's the one the artist has been drawing?
I think the kid was reading the one with Hiro in New York.
... or was your whole post sarcasm. It's so hard to tell with you spy plane pilots

I assure you no sarcasm from me in this thread.... unless the topic delves into our superhero usernames.

[Big Boy Laroux]

yeah, isaac draws 9th wonders. but the one the kid had is not the one with hiro in it. it had something else on the cover.

or maybe isaac only drew the one with hiro in it... but it's implied that he draws the series.

[sike]

good episode. hot is going to the dark side for sure...at least in the short term. Oh and I like balckdad and asiantimeguy.

artdrugfuture and stealypowerboy are decent too...

cheernohurt is boring and not a great actor...while creepyglassesscretsdad is rather interesting

mindreadpig is still boring me...glad he was not a main stay in this episode.

[Flacolaco]

all in favor for adopting sikes nick-names for the heroes characters......?

[u2sarajevo]

Originally Posted by sike

good episode. hot is going to the dark side for sure...at least in the short term. Oh and I like balckdad and asiantimeguy.

artdrugfuture and stealypowerboy are decent too...

cheernohurt is boring and not a great actor...while creepyglassesscretsdad is rather interesting

mindreadpig is still boring me...glad he was not a main stay in this episode.

sorry.... you got some of those wrong.

balckdad is actually wallwalker (there is no reason to bring misspelled race into this issue)
asiantimeguy is just hiro
artdrugfuture is painterboy
stealypowerboy is goodygoodytwoshoes
cheernohurt is acceptable, however you can shorten this to just cheerleader (and yes I realize that's not actually shorter....)
creepyglassessretsdad is actually mysterydad, or Poppa mystery
mindreadpig can also be cop (and he is NOT boring, sir.... how dare you insult the greatness of Weiss/pilot-eaten-by-something)

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by jthig32

Well, I honestly don't think you're going to get your wish. The entire show is based around questions at this point.

yeah. it's sad.

I guess I'm confused as to what kind of closure you want at this point. We got a few clues last night, and found out a ton more about Nikki.

I like the way 24 keeps people involved. (Besides the "24 consecutive hours" thing, which makes it suck if you miss a couple episodes.) He's always got a definite goal: stop this bomb, capture that guy, get this information, etc. that's always pretty solidly tied to the big goal of the season.

Heros has introduced a couple overarching goals "save the cheerleader, save the world." and "stop the bomb in New York" that should be motivating the show. But there's an awful lot of what right now seems coincidence and innuendo that have been driving a lot of it up to this point. The more of that they pile on, the harder it will be to explain everything in retrospect, and the more likely it will be that stuff gets ignored.

If you just don't like the character, I understand, but I guess I don't get what you want from the show at this point.

She's turning into a character that I dislike in an enjoyable way.

I want them to let us in on the story. I understand wanting the audience to kind of experience the discoveries from the Heroes' point of view. But I think that audience experience is getting confused with so much of the story that's being relayed through the Dad's point of view (and he obviously knows a lot more than the audience knows). It's time to let the Heros in on what they need to do, so we can follow them in pursuit of their goal, rather than follow them aimlessly following the whim of the writers.

[sike]

Indianmissingdaddyson?