Playoff Matchups

[Budapest Maverick]

Originally Posted by kg_veteran

What's strange is that you don't think Brewer is a good fit in the the "crucible", but you think Roddy is.

No he doesn't.

[rabbitproof]

Who DOES dude want to start at the 2 and play 2 minutes besides JET?

Stevenson?

[LSMF]

Man, I keep praying somehow we get the Hornets. I want revenge for 08 so badly...

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by nowhereman

(keep in mind this is all with all scenarios weighed equally - assign the weight as much as you want based on what you consider the possibility we win or lose)

If all possibilities are equally weighed, Dallas has a 7/16 chances of getting the 2 seed, requiring a NOR loss, meaning -
Portland has a 3/8 shot of getting the 7 seed - so it's 21/128 or 16.4% that they face as a 2 v. 7 seed
Memphis has a 3/8 shot of getting the 7 seed - so it's a 21/128 or 16.4% that they face as a 2 v. 7 seed
New Orleans has a 1/4 shot of getting the 7 seed - so it's a 7/64 or 10.9% that they face as a 2 v. 7 seed


If all possibilities are equally weighed, Dallas has a 6/16 shot of getting the 3 seed, 2 scenarios w/ a Win and 4 scenarios w/ a Loss
If it's with a W, 5/8 (62.5% chance) they play Portland, 3/8 (37.5% chance) they play Memphis
If it's with a L, 5/8 (62.5% chance) they play Portland, 2/8 (25% chance) they play Memphis, 1/8 (12.5%) chance they play New Orleans


And of course, if they're the 4 seed (3/16 scenarios), they play Denver

so my best answer to your question fluid is: "??!?!?"

Would be great if Spurs somehow could beat the Lakers tonight. Then we got basically a 50:50 chance of meeting either New Orleans or Memphis. Otherwise we'd only have 35% of meeting one of these teams.

Best option for tonight would be Spurs W, Grizzlies W. Then our chances of meeting Denver or Portland are 37.5%. "Worst Case" Lakers W and Blazers W. That would most likely lead to a matchup with Portland or Denver (75%).

[BGMaverick9]

Tweets in LA are saying that the Spurs will do no favors for the Mavs: Duncan, Parker and Ginobili sitting out tonight versus the Lakers

[dalger]

Well, then we have to hope for something extraordinary to happen in what appears to be the final game for the Kings in Sacramento.

Or we could lose, let OKC win, and take that 4th seed.

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Tweets in LA are saying that the Spurs will do no favors for the Mavs: Duncan, Parker and Ginobili sitting out tonight versus the Lakers

Yeah .. so much for securing that NBA-best record. Totally unimportant for Greg. They don't want to meet the Lakers in the second round and they won't.

At least that makes the decision easy which game to watch

[BGMaverick9]

Tweets in Memphis are saying Z-Bo and Allen are sitting out vs POR

[fluid.forty.one]

That sucks.

[SlimMavsFan]

Stoopid tanking Spurs. Oh well... even with a full roster this was gonna be a tough game for the Spurs. You know the Lakers are gonna be trying harder than hell...

[xrobx]

so i guess we might as well just tank tomorrow and hope okc wins

[sefant77]

Lakers will play in Sacramento. Probably last game in Sacramento ever and they hate the Lakers there.

Could be fun and hard game for the Lakers

[xrobx]

down goes bynum.

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Tweets in Memphis are saying Z-Bo and Allen are sitting out vs POR

Hollinger claims that Memphis should tank that game. What am I missing? Do they want to end up with the Lakers in the first round?

[kenny_817]

Looks like a hyperextension

[bernardos70]

Originally Posted by kenny_817

Looks like a hyperextension

Let's hope it's serious.

[xrobx]

looks pretty serious to me

[OSUmavsfan]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

Hollinger claims that Memphis should tank that game. What am I missing? Do they want to end up with the Lakers in the first round?

I guess the plan would be tank both games and guarantee a matchup with the Spurs, rather than risk playing the Lakers. They're doing a pretty bad job of tanking right now though...

[kenny_817]

Makes it worse cuz that's the knee which caused him to miss all those games this year. If its serious...Lakers just got 10x less scary

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

Hollinger claims that Memphis should tank that game. What am I missing? Do they want to end up with the Lakers in the first round?

I'll add that it would make sense if they wanna get away from the L.A. bracket. But they own the tiebreaker over New Orleans and so New Orleans would have to win tomorrow against the Mavs. And for us, tanking is completely irrelevant. Oklahoma City plays after us, so even if we lose, they could decide whether to win their game or not. I really don't get it. At worst, Memphis ends up with the Lakers in my eyes.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by kg_veteran

I don't know who "fans" are, but I'm not reacting to some good games. I don't care if Brewer doesn't score that well. He brings a dynamic and defensive size and abilities that Beaubois doesn't.

Also, FWIW, Brewer took 3 shots last night in 9 minutes. He was hardly disrupting the offense.

What's strange is that you don't think Brewer is a good fit in the the "crucible", but you think Roddy is.

What I actually think is that as poor offensively as roddy has been, the coaching staff seem to feel that he's doing well enough defensively and know what he is doing. What I also think is that neither brewer nor roddy will be impactful in big minutes. Spot duty yes but nothing that will turn a series either way. In other words just like roddy earlier folks now think brewer is a saviour because they are looking so hard for one.

They'll make some good plays and some bad plays...but neither one will make much of an impact on the series. They are both being tremendously overrated.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

No he doesn't.

True, no I don't.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by rabbitproof

Who DOES dude want to start at the 2 and play 2 minutes besides JET?

Stevenson?

I'd probably hang with roddy because he's been on the court the most at the two and Carlisle must want a young fast defender and guard. Hopefully one that can start to hits some shots. Barring that I probably would start dsteve, out of need, but his ball handling is poor and he does not have the ability to drive the ball.

[mavs777]

Bynum is injured....and Lakers aren't exactly playing great against the Spurs scrubs, just saying

[sefant77]

Lakers without Bynum against the Grizzlies could be interesting too

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by mavs777

Bynum looks like he could be done for the year... and Lakers aren't exactly playing great against the Spurs scrubs, just saying

You don't know if he's done for the year. He's probably not playing against SAC tomorrow but we won't know any more till the MRI comes back.

[mavs777]

"could" but I edited my statement.

You know if Bynum doesn't play against the Kings the Kings could have a punchers chance

how exactly are the Lakers going to score off the bench?

[mavs777]

lakers and spurs are tied and you can't tell me the lakers aren't trying this is a team of extreme highs and lows

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by mavs777

lakers and spurs are tied and you can't tell me the lakers aren't trying this is a team of extreme highs and lows

Well, if Portland loses, I'm not so sure they want to win this game.

[j0Shi]

They will still win. I have higher hopes for tomorrow to be honest. Spurs would be plain stupid not to lose this one.

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by OSUmavsfan

I guess the plan would be tank both games and guarantee a matchup with the Spurs, rather than risk playing the Lakers. They're doing a pretty bad job of tanking right now though...

Ah ... I completely missed the fact that New Orleans has got the better divisional record. So they own the tiebreaker over Memphis. It all makes sense now

[mavs777]

i have no doubt the Lakers will win, I just don't think they are playing good basketball right now.

[mavs777]

Lakers will be without Blake, Barnes, and Bynum for Sacremento

[xavier]

well we just got good news....Bynum is out as of a few minutes ago so if we end up against the lakers he wont be there! So now we actually could beat them lol

[CanadianMavsFan]

Originally Posted by xavier

well we just got good news....Bynum is out as of a few minutes ago so if we end up against the lakers he wont be there! So now we actually could beat them lol

I understand the sentiment, and to be honest I cannot deny that I felt better about the Mavericks' chances when I heard about the injury, but you should be careful when making comments like this. I'm sure you don't wish injury on anyone but people will put you down for coming out with a statement like this.

[janbronx]

Kobe got a Technical.. does this mean no Kobe tomorrow?

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by janbronx

Kobe got a Technical.. does this mean no Kobe tomorrow?

No, next T.

[xrobx]

Originally Posted by janbronx

Kobe got a Technical.. does this mean no Kobe tomorrow?

nope, he'd need another one

[xavier]

Originally Posted by CanadianMavsFan

I understand the sentiment, and to be honest I cannot deny that I felt better about the Mavericks' chances when I heard about the injury, but you should be careful when making comments like this. I'm sure you don't wish injury on anyone but people will put you down for coming out with a statement like this.

Then I guess I shouldn't say that I hope all the spurs get food poising and have to forfeit all postseason games.

[j0Shi]

My personal take is that it doesn't make any sense to tank the game against the Hornets. Because if we do we'll end up with either Portland or Denver and the Thunder could decide whether they want to stay in the Spurs bracket or move up. The overall consensus is that Memphis will tank their game (if needed) to move down and match up with the Spurs. So a win against the Hornets would land us the Hornets if the Lakers failed in Sactown. They will be without Bynum, Barnes and Blake down there.