06-29-2019, 06:26 PM
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#2041
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
Fish says Mavs are interested in Tobias Harris, but not for max.
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Very fishy
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06-29-2019, 06:30 PM
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#2042
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
Fish says Mavs are interested in Tobias Harris, but not for max.
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You might as well put a list of free agency options on the wall, projectile vomit at it, measure which one has the most goo on it and guess that's what'll happen as listen to fish.
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06-29-2019, 06:32 PM
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#2043
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Originally Posted by hayth.james.g
I would say his assists go up, rebounds tbd by who we pick up, and points about the same.
More importantly, I would expect his overall efficiency to go up.
Best guess: 22/8/7 on 45/36/75%
Combine that with a 23/6/2 from Porzingis.
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If Luka avgs 22 a game next year without us adding a third star or him just focusing on the pg aspect of his job to the point he avgs 10 assists a game I'll be seriously disappointed
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06-29-2019, 06:33 PM
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#2044
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Is it even news to say you want a guy for less than the max when he almost assuredly will? Even if he came off the price a little...won't be the Mavs.
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06-29-2019, 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
You might as well put a list of free agency options on the wall, projectile vomit at it, measure which one has the most goo on it and guess that's what'll happen as listen to fish.
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Damn, I just +repped you a few posts ago...
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06-29-2019, 07:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hayth.james.g
Narnia...
Seriously undervaluing the Doncic + KP impact.
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I have no choice to because I haven't seen KP be healthy in 2 years. But even if healthy.........
But as of right now we know.....
Lebron, Kuzma and AD
Fox, Barnes, Hield
Jokic, Harris, Milsap,Murray
Harden, Paul, Gordon, Capella, Tucker(subjective to change)
George, Grant, Adams, Westbrook
McCollum, Lillard, Nurkic,
Aldridge, Derozen, Murray
Conley, Mitchell, Gobert, Favors, Ingles
Williams, Ball, Ingram, Holiday
Green, Curry, Klay, KD(subject to change)
Its early to tell what some of these teams will look like some may look worse some may be better. ITs some stacked teams out West. Then there are teams like the Mavs, Suns, T-Wolves who stunk last year but all have some form of generational talent on them.
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06-29-2019, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Five-ofan
What are you expecting from Luka next year? I expect about 27/8/7 on 46/36/75, and a second team all NBA. And I expect the Luka kp pick and roll to be the best play in basketball
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I expect him to be what he was this year. Probably around 20-21 points a game....6 boards.....7 assists......but I guess it depends how we feel this roster with. If he's averaging 27/8/7.....we must not have any role players and KP must really be hurt. I expect his stats to look similar to last year but I thin the will be more efficient shooting and passing the ball.
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06-29-2019, 07:06 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@wojespn: Nets will be willing to work with Russell and his reps on ways to get him to a team of his choice, including sign-and-trade scenarios, league sources tell ESPN. If Russell and Nets found a sign-and-trade deal that works for both, obviously, there's no need to renounce his rights.
We have the cap space and that TPE, so if he wants to come here we can get him...
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I don't know if its Fish or reports saying he's not a "fit".....but I just don't see how he isn't. He's still developing too.
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06-29-2019, 07:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
I have no choice to because I haven't seen KP be healthy in 2 years. But even if healthy.........
But as of right now we know.....
Lebron, Kuzma and AD
Fox, Barnes, Hield
Jokic, Harris, Milsap,Murray
Harden, Paul, Gordon, Capella, Tucker(subjective to change)
George, Grant, Adams, Westbrook
McCollum, Lillard, Nurkic,
Aldridge, Derozen, Murray
Conley, Mitchell, Gobert, Favors, Ingles
Williams, Ball, Ingram, Holiday
Green, Curry, Klay, KD(subject to change)
Its early to tell what some of these teams will look like some may look worse some may be better. ITs some stacked teams out West. Then there are teams like the Mavs, Suns, T-Wolves who stunk last year but all have some form of generational talent on them.
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Easily in the fight for 5-8 there. Sacramento, Spurs, Blazers, OKC, Denver, and Pelicans all look beatable.
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06-29-2019, 07:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Five-ofan
You might as well put a list of free agency options on the wall, projectile vomit at it, measure which one has the most goo on it and guess that's what'll happen as listen to fish.
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Must spread rep....
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06-29-2019, 07:24 PM
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#2051
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
I have no choice to because I haven't seen KP be healthy in 2 years. But even if healthy.........
But as of right now we know.....
Lebron, Kuzma and AD
Fox, Barnes, Hield
Jokic, Harris, Milsap,Murray
Harden, Paul, Gordon, Capella, Tucker(subjective to change)
George, Grant, Adams, Westbrook
McCollum, Lillard, Nurkic,
Aldridge, Derozen, Murray
Conley, Mitchell, Gobert, Favors, Ingles
Williams, Ball, Ingram, Holiday
Green, Curry, Klay, KD(subject to change)
Its early to tell what some of these teams will look like some may look worse some may be better. ITs some stacked teams out West. Then there are teams like the Mavs, Suns, T-Wolves who stunk last year but all have some form of generational talent on them.
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Lol at a few of those(kings and no are most obvious) and boomer damn sure isn't a generational talent unless you mean ayton and he honestly still might be.
As for Lukas numbers Lebron was slightly worse as a rookie and 27/7/7 on a playoff team his second year. Not all player develop at the same rate and Luka obviously isn't the athlete young Lebron was, but a lot of the same basic skills are there and running a pick and roll with kp should motivate some of that. Also I expect luka to be in better shape all of next year. Also you know klay and kd aren't playing right? It's steph draymond looney Quinn cook and minimum guys
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06-29-2019, 07:40 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hayth.james.g
Easily in the fight for 5-8 there. Sacramento, Spurs, Blazers, OKC, Denver, and Pelicans all look beatable.
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Yeah they all look beatable.......as do the Mavs.
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06-29-2019, 07:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Five-ofan
Lol at a few of those(kings and no are most obvious) and boomer damn sure isn't a generational talent unless you mean ayton and he honestly still might be.
As for Lukas numbers Lebron was slightly worse as a rookie and 27/7/7 on a playoff team his second year. Not all player develop at the same rate and Luka obviously isn't the athlete young Lebron was, but a lot of the same basic skills are there and running a pick and roll with kp should motivate some of that. Also I expect luka to be in better shape all of next year. Also you know klay and kd aren't playing right? It's steph draymond looney Quinn cook and minimum guys
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I don't know what Ayton is but Booker has potential to be generational talent. The guy scored 70 points in a game. He's already one of the best scorers in the league.
Its too early to tell on KD and Klay. I've read reports Klay shouldn't miss the whole year. KD may be a different story. He may not even be a Warrior. Warriors may stink but trust they will surround Draymon and Steph with some veterans who want to ring chase.
But I was just comparing lineups. IMO, a Warriors lineup with Steph and Draymon are is still deadly with the right pieces.
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06-29-2019, 07:49 PM
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#2054
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest
I don't know what Ayton is but Booker has potential to be generational talent. The guy scored 70 points in a game. He's already one of the best scorers in the league.
Its too early to tell on KD and Klay. I've read reports Klay shouldn't miss the whole year. KD may be a different story. He may not even be a Warrior. Warriors may stink but trust they will surround Draymon and Steph with some veterans who want to ring chase.
But I was just comparing lineups. IMO, a Warriors lineup with Steph and Draymon are is still deadly with the right pieces.
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luka was a better player as a 19 year old rookie than booker.
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06-29-2019, 07:51 PM
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Adrian Wojnarowski
Another quality big on the market: Houston center Nene is declining his $3.8M option and will become a free agent, league sources tell ESPN.
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06-29-2019, 07:54 PM
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I don't know if I would call Nene a quality big but he might have a fit here as a part time banger
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06-29-2019, 08:04 PM
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@CarmichaelDave: Interest between the Sacramento Kings and free agent center Dewayne Dedmon is mutual, and strong.
Nothing set yet, but there is confidence on both sides.
Expect a resolution tomorrow.
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06-29-2019, 08:06 PM
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Brad Townsend
RFA offer sheets can't be signed until July 6. Then incumbent team has two days to decide whether to match.
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06-29-2019, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFFL
Brad Townsend
RFA offer sheets can't be signed until July 6. Then incumbent team has two days to decide whether to match.
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Is this a change?
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06-29-2019, 08:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFFL
Is this a change?
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Yes
Still a 5 Day moratorium on actually signing deals but RFA matching went from 3 days to 48 hours
Last edited by EricaLubarsky; 06-29-2019 at 08:47 PM.
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06-29-2019, 09:17 PM
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Lakers looking at Beverly.
Mavs fans in shambles.
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06-29-2019, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@CarmichaelDave: Interest between the Sacramento Kings and free agent center Dewayne Dedmon is mutual, and strong.
Nothing set yet, but there is confidence on both sides.
Expect a resolution tomorrow.
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SMC might need a tissue...
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06-29-2019, 09:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonhead
Lakers looking at Beverly.
Mavs fans in shambles.
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Lakers are getting Kawhi so it's irrelevant.
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06-29-2019, 10:07 PM
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Yeah I'll believe Kawhi goes to the Lakers when I see it. This off season literally every FA has been linked to the Lakers just like they are every off season.
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06-29-2019, 10:10 PM
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How are all these teams securing deals with players from other teams if they’re not allowed to talk yet?
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06-29-2019, 10:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
Yeah I'll believe Kawhi goes to the Lakers when I see it. This off season literally every FA has been linked to the Lakers just like they are every off season.
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The hurricane just hit land. I can't keep up with the rumors anymore.
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06-29-2019, 10:12 PM
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How are all these teams securing deals with players from other teams if they’re not allowed to talk yet?
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06-29-2019, 10:14 PM
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Bucks are waiving Hill. They may be preparing for the match on Brogdon
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06-29-2019, 10:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
How are all these teams securing deals with players from other teams if they’re not allowed to talk yet?
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06-29-2019, 10:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
The hurricane just hit land. I can't keep up with the rumors anymore.
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Seriously. For weeks/months we heard Kyrie was open to going back to Lebron and then he doesn't even meet with them. We heard Kemba would meet with them, and he isn't meeting with anyone he's going to Boston. We heard KD would consider the Lakers and they aren't on the 4 teams listed. Stephen A shit said Kawhi grew up a Lakers fan and Kawhi did an interview this year where he said he hated the Lakers, that he was an Allen Iverson fan. His family are Lakers fans. It's like people forgot that Rich Paul and the Lakers leaked a billion stories to force AD to the Lakers.
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06-29-2019, 10:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED
Bucks are waiving Hill. They may be preparing for the match on Brogdon
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They released him because his contract is 18m and only 1m is guaranteed if they cut him. Saving 17m for a backup/serviceable spot starter. From what I've read from twitter and Real GM all of these moves have only freed up maybe 13m under the cap for Lopez. All their salary moves are to free up space to keep Lopez. Matching Brogdon isn't affected by these moves except for future Lux tax implications. IMO if they really love Brogdon they can dump Bledsoe in the future and avoid repeater tax.
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06-29-2019, 10:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson
Seriously. For weeks/months we heard Kyrie was open to going back to Lebron and then he doesn't even meet with them. We heard Kemba would meet with them, and he isn't meeting with anyone he's going to Boston. We heard KD would consider the Lakers and they aren't on the 4 teams listed. Stephen A shit said Kawhi grew up a Lakers fan and Kawhi did an interview this year where he said he hated the Lakers, that he was an Allen Iverson fan. His family are Lakers fans. It's like people forgot that Rich Paul and the Lakers leaked a billion stories to force AD to the Lakers.
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And now I heard the Sixers might be Brogdon's biggest suitor even though they're also keeping Jimmy and Harris right? Or maybe they are really just moving the franchise to the France.
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06-29-2019, 10:38 PM
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Boston renounces Rozier....where does he fit if we strike out on our early targets ?
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06-29-2019, 10:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
How are all these teams securing deals with players from other teams if they’re not allowed to talk yet?
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I guess tampering only exists if you are stupid enough to make public comments
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06-29-2019, 10:58 PM
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Vucevic is staying in Orlando, 4 for $100 million.
That Bamba pick is David Kahn esque. truly impressive
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06-29-2019, 11:03 PM
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Max for players with 6 or fewer years on league:
27.25mill
Max for players with 7+ years in league
32.70mill
Last edited by EricaLubarsky; 06-29-2019 at 11:05 PM.
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06-29-2019, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED
Vucevic is staying in Orlando, 4 for $100 million.
That Bamba pick is David Kahn esque. truly impressive
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Sad face...
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06-30-2019, 12:06 AM
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Shams is saying Utah is hard after Bogdanovic, so that option looks to be off the table if it ever was on it.
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06-30-2019, 01:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
SMC might need a tissue...
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🧐😖 yea. Especially going to an upward trending Sac team. It would be a bummer but its best to not be overly invested in what I hope for and just trust the FO here.
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06-30-2019, 01:31 AM
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@Lefty_Leif: As Heat canvas the league for potential 3rd teams to help absorb salary in a Jimmy Butler sign and trade, I’m told the Dallas Mavericks may be a willing participant if it nets them point guard Goran Dragic.
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