Ron Artest traded to the Rockets - Page 6 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

dirno2000 · 07-31-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

The deal isn't official right?

So couldn't we give Sacramento a better offer? I mean, it's not they have an allegiance with Houston...

They agreed to the deal. It would be bad business to go back on it at this point.

alby · 07-31-2008, 10:44 PM

That's what Cleveland and Boozer thought

dirno2000 · 07-31-2008, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by alby

That's what Cleveland and Boozer thought

Boozer going back on his word isn't going to change the way teams deal with him in the future. He'll still be in demand when his contract expires. Reputation is a little more important to a team making calls everyday looking to deal. They're not negotiating from the position of strength that Boozer is so they need to be trusted.

ghazi · 07-31-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

I totally forgot about the Celtics (don't know why), so I edited my post just before you quoted me. I'll put Artest in the top 12 or so. Still, that's arguable three players on one team in the top 12 or so.

What?

Lebron James
Chris Paul
Kobe Bryant
Deron Williams
Dirk Nowitzki
Elton Brand
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Paul Pierce
Amare Stoudamire
Steve Nash
Dwight Howard

Could come up with those 12 names easy and I don't see how you can even make a CASE that Artest is better than any of those players. Thus, saying he's top 12 is irrational... Artest is more like a top 25 player.

DOMINATOR · 08-01-2008, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ghazi

Lebron James
Chris Paul
Kobe Bryant
Deron Williams
Dirk Nowitzki
Elton Brand
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Paul Pierce
Amare Stoudamire
Steve Nash
Dwight Howard

Could come up with those 12 names easy and I don't see how you can even make a CASE that Artest is better than any of those players. Thus, saying he's top 12 is irrational... Artest is more like a top 25 player.

not to mention
tmac
yao
wade
bosh
Roy
baron
JJ

artest is definantly in top 25 though.

GuerillaBlack · 08-01-2008, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ghazi

Lebron James
Chris Paul
Kobe Bryant
Deron Williams
Dirk Nowitzki
Elton Brand
Tim Duncan
Kevin Garnett
Paul Pierce
Amare Stoudamire
Steve Nash
Dwight Howard

Could come up with those 12 names easy and I don't see how you can even make a CASE that Artest is better than any of those players. Thus, saying he's top 12 is irrational... Artest is more like a top 25 player.

Artest can hold his own against the bolded.

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Originally Posted by alby

That's what Cleveland and Boozer thought

The deal is done. There is no going back on it. This is nothing like a "Gentlemen's Agreement".

GuerillaBlack · 08-01-2008, 03:12 AM

New video: http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/...deo?id=3514113

"Anything they [Yao and Tracy] say is right. They can't do nothing wrong in my eyes."

Go Ron Go!

Dirkenstien · 08-01-2008, 08:14 AM

We'll see how he starts acting when Ron Ron wants his money and Houston doesn't give it to him.

Basically ya'll better pay up now or he'll make this little Yao conflict look like a godsend. If you think the media is going crazy over this just wait till he starts huffing and puffing over that extension.

GuerillaBlack · 08-01-2008, 10:28 AM

No...

If anything, Artest will most likely get his extension midway through the season.

LonghornDub · 08-01-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

Artest can hold his own against the bolded.

No. Just no. Not even close, especially as to Amare.

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

The deal is done. There is no going back on it. This is nothing like a "Gentlemen's Agreement".

I am quite sure the deal will happen, but I have no idea why you would assert something as foolish as "there's no going back on it." A deal isn't irreversible until the paperwork is signed by all parties, including the league.

alby · 08-01-2008, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

No...

If anything, Artest will most likely get his extension midway through the season.

... and how do you know this?

GuerillaBlack · 08-01-2008, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by alby

... and how do you know this?

I don't. That's why I said "if anything". I should have put "probably" in there, but whatever. I mean, if Ron Artest is doing great with the team midway through the season, and the Rockets have the cash for him, why wouldn't they extend his contract before he becomes a FA?

Underdog · 08-01-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

I mean, if Ron Artest is doing great with the team midway through the season, and the Rockets have the cash for him, why wouldn't they extend his contract before he becomes a FA?

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-01-2008, 12:41 PM

lol

antoinewalker · 08-01-2008, 04:56 PM

what do you think the rockets starting lineup will be? will battier or scola come off the bench assuming artest starts?

GuerillaBlack · 08-01-2008, 06:23 PM

I'm pretty sure Battier will come off the bench. There have been rumors of Artest coming in at the 4, so...

Alston
McGrady
Artest
Scola
Yao

or

Alston
McGrady
Battier
Artest
Yao

Both lineups are killer.

marquez · 08-01-2008, 08:10 PM

I THINK WE SHOULD OFFER THEM JOSH HOWARD FOR A SECOND ROUND DRAFT PICK LOL

chumdawg · 08-01-2008, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by marquez

I THINK WE SHOULD OFFER THEM JOSH HOWARD FOR A SECOND ROUND DRAFT PICK LOL

Flaco, thiggy, sikey, mary...for the love of god, please DO something!

Kaizoku · 08-03-2008, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

I don't. That's why I said "if anything". I should have put "probably" in there, but whatever. I mean, if Ron Artest is doing great with the team midway through the season, and the Rockets have the cash for him, why wouldn't they extend his contract before he becomes a FA?

Because the Rockets hold his Bird Rights, so they can go over the cap to sign him once he becomes a free agent. If we don't want to re-sign him, we can S&T him.

antoinewalker · 08-03-2008, 12:50 PM

should we be more worried about the spurs, hornets, or rockets?

GuerillaBlack · 08-04-2008, 02:01 AM

Here is Ron Artest on "Sunday Conversation" today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovRV5zPLD8o

GuerillaBlack · 08-14-2008, 06:59 PM

So finally, he is "officially an official" Rocket:

http://www.nba.com/media/rockets/spl...ntro081408.jpg
http://www.nba.com/rockets/tickets/S...0012-1664.html

ClutchFans has the interview with Ron Artest today on its home page.

antoinewalker · 08-15-2008, 05:59 PM

why hasn't there been a press conference yet?

GuerillaBlack · 08-15-2008, 06:00 PM

I think Morey is in China.

The Franchise · 08-17-2008, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

I think Morey is in China.

Yeah his first day back is the 25th. I can't wait to see Artest holding up that jersey !!!!!!

EricaLubarsky · 08-17-2008, 01:07 PM

Houston forums are

Thataway----->http://clutchfans.net/

Stranger · 08-17-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by antoinewalker

should we be more worried about the spurs, hornets, or rockets?

Who's "we"?

EricaLubarsky · 08-17-2008, 04:51 PM

The timberwolves are Walker's current team arent they?

Wolves should fear everyone. They are terrible.

GuerillaBlack · 08-17-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Houston forums are

Thataway----->http://clutchfans.net/

awesome.

having fans from other teams can be a good thing. one thing i like about spurstalk. clutchfans lacks that, too (fans from other teams). help bring in more opinions and things.

antoinewalker · 08-17-2008, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Houston forums are

Thataway----->http://clutchfans.net/

lol.

EricaLubarsky · 08-17-2008, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

awesome.

having fans from other teams can be a good thing. one thing i like about spurstalk. clutchfans lacks that, too (fans from other teams). help bring in more opinions and things.

I think I could live without an immature, 16-year-old Houston fan posting "go Houston" posts here. If you were really giving thoughtful opinions that would be one thing but you have yet to bring anything but your Houston fanhood, and some mildly irritating general interest posts.

Underdog · 08-17-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I think I could live without an immature, 16-year-old Houston fan posting "go Houston" posts here. If you were really giving thoughtful opinions that would be one thing but you have yet to bring anything but your Houston fanhood, and some mildly irritating general interest posts.

RonMexico · 08-17-2008, 10:41 PM

Just don't suck and German National Team this season. That's all I ask.

GermanDunk · 08-17-2008, 10:56 PM

Conference air is getting thinner for the Mavericks. No doubt about it.

And1 · 08-17-2008, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack

awesome.

having fans from other teams can be a good thing. one thing i like about spurstalk. clutchfans lacks that, too (fans from other teams). help bring in more opinions and things.

How would you feel if you wanted a player really badly and your team's deal for him was rejected....AND then a fan of the team that said player went to comes to your forum posting crap about "it's official, we got him". How would you feel? I bet just chipper huh?
Dude, they know it's official, its 2008 and they apparently have internet access to all kinds of information yet you feel the need to come in here and inform them like they don't know, like they even give a rats azz. Keep your chin up kid, but learn to be a guest in someone's house.

alby · 08-17-2008, 11:59 PM

I thought 'toine is a Grizzly now =P

GuerillaBlack · 08-18-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I think I could live without an immature, 16-year-old Houston fan posting "go Houston" posts here. If you were really giving thoughtful opinions that would be one thing but you have yet to bring anything but your Houston fanhood, and some mildly irritating general interest posts.

Show some examples.

And by the way, this is the only place where someone has said that I'm immature. At the other sports forums I belong to, people think I'm an adult until they look at my age. I post the exact same everywhere, so I think it's just you saying that. Well, I know it's just you.

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Originally Posted by And1

How would you feel if you wanted a player really badly and your team's deal for him was rejected....AND then a fan of the team that said player went to comes to your forum posting crap about "it's official, we got him". How would you feel? I bet just chipper huh?
Dude, they know it's official, its 2008 and they apparently have internet access to all kinds of information yet you feel the need to come in here and inform them like they don't know, like they even give a rats azz. Keep your chin up kid, but learn to be a guest in someone's house.

Are you serious? Who are you to say anything? You were in the red for the longest. Maybe you should learn to be a guest in someone else's house? The reason why I said "it's official now" is because some were thinking the deal could still fall through because it really wasn't "official" yet. The deal had to wait for over two weeks before that happened. What's wrong with posting an update huh? It isn't like I'm spamming this place or being rude to anybody. I'm mostly in the Everything Else section anyway. I'm mostly here because I live in DFW and sort of like the community here (sometimes, like no, some people flip out on me for no reason). Go back to my earlier posts here and now. You don't see the change?

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Hardly.

LonghornDub · 08-18-2008, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by And1

How would you feel if you wanted a player really badly and your team's deal for him was rejected....AND then a fan of the team that said player went to comes to your forum posting crap about "it's official, we got him". How would you feel? I bet just chipper huh?
Dude, they know it's official, its 2008 and they apparently have internet access to all kinds of information yet you feel the need to come in here and inform them like they don't know, like they even give a rats azz. Keep your chin up kid, but learn to be a guest in someone's house.

And this, my friends, is the difference between a Rockets poster we like having around and a kid who can't find it in himself to post anything of value.

antoinewalker · 08-18-2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

The timberwolves are Walker's current team arent they?

Wolves should fear everyone. They are terrible.

i am a grizzly bear.

EricaLubarsky · 08-18-2008, 08:40 AM

Ah its easy to lose track of a spare that's been dropped and traded like a hot potato. Sorry.