07-02-2016, 03:28 PM
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Expect Thomas Robinson to be available in the 10 million per year range.
Oh I have no insight on it, in fact I don't even know who Thomas Robinson is, but it seems players I've never heard of are getting 10 million per year this summer.
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07-02-2016, 03:38 PM
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He has played some center for both Portland and Nets. Started for Lopez some last season. I know he's athletic and can put up raw stats when given minutes, but I'm not sure how good he actually is.
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07-02-2016, 03:42 PM
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Greg Smith 2.0?
Speaking of that, I think Greg Smith is available. Maybe he can start for us next season.
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07-02-2016, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
I'm personally hoping for the Boston approach. Hoard draft picks and unselfish young role players on friendly contracts. It hasn't paid off just yet but I have a feeling within the next couple of seasons Danny Ainge is going to look like a genius.
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That would be ideal. But that was enabled by a perfect storm of Billy King stupid. That was an historic haul they received from Brooklyn. It makes the Hershel Walker trade look tame in comparison. Boston will still be benefiting from that trade for like 2 more years.
Our best case is we trade Wes for a pick pretty heavily protected that winds up late lottery and late teens. Maybe Devin fetches a 2nd? It takes time and Boston is still searching for their star. Also, tons of teams have cap room. So it may actually cost us to acquire a Rubio or Kantner. And they are most likely being sent East. This is going to be a long, slow process of many years. Even if we tank and land the #1 pick.
I feel bad for Dirk. And all of us fans. Is a class action lawsuit feasible?
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07-02-2016, 03:45 PM
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Robinson averages 12pts 14reb per 36 and coming off rookie contract. Only good thing I've heard from the Mavs
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07-02-2016, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshJive
He has played some center for both Portland and Nets. Started for Lopez some last season. I know he's athletic and can put up raw stats when given minutes, but I'm not sure how good he actually is.
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I think that'd be the hope. Small ball center and energy guy. But letting Parsons walk is going to seem silly once we start handing out 10m per year contracts to absolute non entities.
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07-02-2016, 03:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mac222b
I think that'd be the hope. Small ball center and energy guy. But letting Parsons walk is going to seem silly once we start handing out 10m per year contracts to absolute non entities.
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Parsons wasn't a net positive for us even when healthy and his contract is 22.2mill next season. Getting two, young guys for 10 each, particularly guys who have averaged 12/14 per 36 is a better deal.
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07-02-2016, 03:48 PM
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I think Robinson had a partial tear in his meniscus a year ago.... but he was a top 10 or maybe 5 draft pick.
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07-02-2016, 03:52 PM
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@AlexKennedyNBA: D-League MVP Jarnell Stokes has interest from Spurs, Mavs and Nuggets, per sources. He averaged 20.6 PPG (66.5% FG) and 9.3 RPG in D-League.
/googles Jarnell Stokes
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07-02-2016, 03:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@AlexKennedyNBA: The Mavericks, Timberwolves, Pelicans and Spurs are among the teams that have expressed interest in unrestricted free agent Thomas Robinson.
/googles Thomas Robinson
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@AlexKennedyNBA: D-League MVP Jarnell Stokes has interest from Spurs, Mavs and Nuggets, per sources. He averaged 20.6 PPG (66.5% FG) and 9.3 RPG in D-League.
/googles Jarnell Stokes
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Anyone know what a rebuild looks like? I'm unfamiliar...
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07-02-2016, 04:10 PM
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Are they trying to pair Robinson and Powell at PF/C? Cause Robinson starting at center sounds like a bad idea.
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07-02-2016, 04:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Parsons wasn't a net positive for us even when healthy and his contract is 22.2mill next season. Getting two, young guys for 10 each, particularly guys who have averaged 12/14 per 36 is a better deal.
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I'm no huge Parsons supporter believe me. But guys like Robinson are fringe NBA players. I want them to swing for the fences on high upside guys. But most likely Robinson is what he is at this point.
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07-02-2016, 04:28 PM
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So this may go down as the historic offseason in which we secured both Robinson and Stokes. I'm in
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07-02-2016, 04:55 PM
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@AlexKennedyNBA: Hearing the Dallas Mavericks are thinking of extending an offer sheet to RFA Harrison Barnes. Nothing imminent, but it's been considered.
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07-02-2016, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
@AlexKennedyNBA: Hearing the Dallas Mavericks are thinking of extending an offer sheet to RFA Harrison Barnes. Nothing imminent, but it's been considered.
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Finally something that makes sense. He'd be the perfect player to rebuild with since you have to fill the ridiculously high cap anyway.
...of course, Warriors will match so there is that.
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07-02-2016, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mac222b
So this may go down as the historic offseason in which we secured both Robinson and Stokes. I'm in
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I'm stokesed
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07-02-2016, 05:02 PM
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I really think they have no clue which direction they want to go.
Max him out, but Warriors will find a way to match.
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07-02-2016, 05:04 PM
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Do it! Offer Barnes the max!
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07-02-2016, 05:06 PM
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I don't see what the hype is about when it comes to Barnes. He has career role player written all over him imo. Anderson has way more upside tbh.
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07-02-2016, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
I'm stokesed
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Right on!
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07-02-2016, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Finally something that makes sense. He'd be the perfect player to rebuild with since you have to fill the ridiculously high cap anyway.
...of course, Warriors will match so there is that.
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Our odds increase if Durant waits till July 7th in deciding where he goes. So it's something that wont hurt to make public right now. They're also still undecided about their center position. Which is also something that can drag out for them.
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07-02-2016, 05:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skywalker
I don't see what the hype is about when it comes to Barnes. He has career role player written all over him imo. Anderson has way more upside tbh.
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He's nothing special. But he has position flex. And can shoot. About as close to a Parsons replacement as you'll find. JA will still play 30+minutes no matter what
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07-02-2016, 05:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mac222b
He's nothing special. But he has position flex. And can shoot. About as close to a Parsons replacement as you'll find. JA will still play 30+minutes no matter what
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I would so like to see Wes at PG, Anderson at SG, Barnes at SF with whoever bigs in some periods during games.
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07-02-2016, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yahyes
Our odds increase if Durant waits till July 7th in deciding where he goes. So it's something that wont hurt to make public right now. They're also still undecided about their center position. Which is also something that can drag out for them.
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The odds doesnt increase. GS wont just sit on their hands like Dallas. They have a plan in place and are probably expecting max from teams. But youre right it wont hurt to make it public.
I think we should vote you resident optimist.
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07-02-2016, 05:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yahyes
I would so like to see Wes at PG, Anderson at SG, Barnes at SF with whoever bigs in some periods during games.
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You can't be serious. Wes might have the worst handles of any guard in the league.
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07-02-2016, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BPo001
You can't be serious. Wes might have the worst handles of any guard in the league.
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He's Michael Finley down to the total lack of handles
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07-02-2016, 05:44 PM
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This guy is available, too... no, not Manny Pacquiao... Peter John Ramos... he is 7'3" and was drafted by the Wizards in 2004... nah, forget it... he is too dumb and slow....
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07-02-2016, 05:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BPo001
You can't be serious. Wes might have the worst handles of any guard in the league.
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Some periods meaning when it's a defensive situation. Like in between games you need that defensive stop. Marion always helped when that happened. But with a Wes, Anderson, and Barnes covering the guards and forwards. Our defense already is upgraded as far as guard wise.
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07-02-2016, 05:56 PM
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Would love to go after Brandon Jennings
Jennings/Barea
Wes/Harris
Anderson/???
Dirk/Robinson/Powell
???/Mejri/Hammonds
What a pitiful roster.
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07-02-2016, 05:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yahyes
Some periods meaning when it's a defensive situation. Like in between games you need that defensive stop. Marion always helped when that happened. But with a Wes, Anderson, and Barnes covering the guards and forwards. Our defense already is upgraded as far as guard wise.
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So who is going to bring the ball up the court and initiate the offense?
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07-02-2016, 06:07 PM
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@espn_macmahon: NBA announces that the 2016-17 salary cap has been set at $94.143 million. The floor is $84.729 minimum....
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07-02-2016, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
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So who is going to bring the ball up the court and initiate the offense?
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Bring Deron back.
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07-02-2016, 06:39 PM
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There are some spares out there licking their chops because they're about to get an insane contract from Mark Cuban (gotta fill the floor).
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07-02-2016, 06:39 PM
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If they offer a max contract to Barnes, it means that Dirk said something because it would be the complete opposite of what they've been doing so far, which looked like nothing, but in reality was actually the right plan. It's only right though if you are sticking to it. If you sign players now who will help us win 35-38 games, you might as well have overpaid for better players.
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07-02-2016, 06:39 PM
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I know most of us want to see the Mavs sign a bunch of younger players to the roster, but I'm kind of hoping the Mavs might take a look at bringing the JET and Tyson back if at all possible. If only so Dirk doesn't have to feel like he's babysitting every night.
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07-02-2016, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
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Bring Deron back.
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That's great, but he can't do that from the bench. You want Wes, Anderson, and Barnes on the floor together.
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07-02-2016, 06:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
He's Michael Finley down to the total lack of handles
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I wish he had Finleys height, athleticism and mid range game......
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07-02-2016, 06:58 PM
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Quote:
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I wish he had Finleys height, athleticism and mid range game......
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I feel like I'm still waiting to see Wes actually jump. Hopefully, a healthy offseason will get him back to where he gets some of his athleticism back.
And yeah, we shouldn't forget Findog's athletic prowess. One of my favorite obscure Mavs memories: Finley dunking all over the Utah Jazz in the close out game of a round 1 series, a game where Finley kind of struggled to get going all game. One of the sickest dunks ever in my mind from the pure emotional standpoint. I actually shed tears watching that. I was one of the biggest Finley fans ever.
https://youtu.be/UgWYiOZiI_I
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07-02-2016, 07:02 PM
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@ZachLowe_NBA: If KD says no to GSW, I would expect Warriors to match any Harrison Barnes offer sheet. No sign-and-trade possibilities w/ DAL either.
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07-02-2016, 07:04 PM
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I'd love to be able to enjoy the feeling of a big FA joining Dallas. We may have our own lil curse when it comes to that it seems. Who knows though? Maybe one day a once in a generation Texas born player will be our savior like Lebron has been for the Cavs.
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