2018 NBA Offseason & Free Agency Thread

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

If 15 million would've gotten us both Cousins and Randle.......you then had another 10 million to do something with. That would've been far smarter than banking on Deandre......BUT....that's if that deal was available to us.

Cousins said he would have only gone to Boston or Golden State. That's it.

We didn't want Randle (he's a terrible fit), but even if they did, he went to play with his friend Davis.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

Your argument basis is false ... "if 15 million would've gotten us both" ... because it would not. The Mavs are not a super team of Curry/KD/Klay/Green and won 3 of the last 4 years and extremely likely of winning it all again this year.

Its not false. He says he got no offers. I've also heard Celtics and Warriors offered him the asme deal. Does he turn down a 1 year 15 million dollar deal?Maybe he does. Maybe he doesn't. I at least hope we offered something.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Cousins said he would have only gone to Boston or Golden State. That's it.

We didn't want Randle (he's a terrible fit), but even if they did, he went to play with his friend Davis.

If this is true then fair enough. I've heard Cousins say he was only offered the mid-level.

I don't understand how Randle was a terrible fit. Especially for the money he got. Especially since it was reported the Mavs were interested in him at one point.

[j0Shi]

Yeah you can't really just take other teams' deals and think the Mavs could have gotten the same. Boogie to GSW was because he's a coward and they offered as much as they could. It's not like 5M was his asking price.

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

If this is true then fair enough. I've heard Cousins say he was only offered the mid-level.

I don't understand how Randle was a terrible fit. Especially for the money he got. Especially since it was reported the Mavs were interested in him at one point.

I think Randle was definitely on our radar, but DJ is by far the superior fit. Was just priorities and Mavs got their #1. If DJ hadn't worked out, they would have probably considered throwing a pitch to Randle.

[MavzMan]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

Boogie to GSW was because he's a coward

Coward if he turns down millions to get a championship. Only cares about money if he signs for a max contract on a losing team. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Honestly, I view it as their decision and don't fault them either way. According to spotrac.com, he's made $80 million for his career. That's nice money but he still gave up a lot of money not going somewhere else.

As for GS, they've put together a massive super team all within league rules. After 4 years, they are finally going to hit some serious luxury taxes. Again, I applaud what they've accomplished. If the MBT had done this, we would have been saying how brilliant they are.

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

Coward if he turns down millions to get a championship. Only cares about money if he signs for a max contract on a losing team. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Honestly, I view it as their decision and don't fault them either way. According to spotrac.com, he's made $80 million for his career. That's nice money but he still gave up a lot of money not going somewhere else.

As for GS, they've put together a massive super team all within league rules. After 4 years, they are finally going to hit some serious luxury taxes. Again, I applaud what they've accomplished. If the MBT had done this, we would have been saying how brilliant they are.

I get what you're saying, but I doubt he even surrendered much. It's a transition year for him anyway. He won't be healthy until January, the market for Centers was dry and next year's cap is projected to go up considerably, meaning he's going to get more money wherever he'll sign.

Reports say he wanted to get into Boston or GWS only to have a shot at a ring. Don't make this about money, he's simply the second true Nazgûl after Durant. Hopefully the fans will start to show some more hostility towards that crap team and I'd also be interested in the playoff ratings. For whatever reason they've gone up in recent years, but with the East being shit and Warriors title guaranteed this could be the year where it starts backfiring.

[Bryan_Wilson]

Someone on NBA SL broadcast said Warriors players were asked about them signing Howard and they said no. They were asked about Cousins and said yes. So not even the Warriors want Howard... even in a bench role capacity.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

Yeah you can't really just take other teams' deals and think the Mavs could have gotten the same. Boogie to GSW was because he's a coward and they offered as much as they could. It's not like 5M was his asking price.

According to him he didn't have any deals after Pelicans took their deal off. Whether you believe that is up to you but I find it hard to believe.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by MavzMan

Coward if he turns down millions to get a championship. Only cares about money if he signs for a max contract on a losing team. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Honestly, I view it as their decision and don't fault them either way. According to spotrac.com, he's made $80 million for his career. That's nice money but he still gave up a lot of money not going somewhere else.

As for GS, they've put together a massive super team all within league rules. After 4 years, they are finally going to hit some serious luxury taxes. Again, I applaud what they've accomplished. If the MBT had done this, we would have been saying how brilliant they are.

Right....its funny how that works. You are a coward if you want a ring......going a bit too far lol.

[Dtownsfinest]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

I think Randle was definitely on our radar, but DJ is by far the superior fit. Was just priorities and Mavs got their #1. If DJ hadn't worked out, they would have probably considered throwing a pitch to Randle.

Better fit for now? I'd agree if we were making a playoff run. But with Randle's age?Seems like a superior fit.

[tap2390]

No matter your talent level, if you’re a big who can’t hit threes or guard the rim in today’s game you’re going to be a bit of an odd fit. Personally I’m glad we didn’t pursue Randle. I also think it’s telling the Lakers let him walk despite not having a real replacement identified.

[Underdog]

@Enes_Kanter: Adam Silver has agreed to a Mid Level Extension with the Golden State, league sources tell ME.

[EricaLubarsky]

@thesteinline

The last team to be able to put five players on the floor who were All-Stars in the previous season? Boston in 1975-76, according to @EliasSports

Last time this happened was 43 years ago

[BPo001]

Adrian Wojnarowski: Utah Jazz restricted free agent Dante Exum has agreed to a three-year, $33M contract extension, league sources tell ESPN. – via Twitter wojespn

[EricaLubarsky]

Thunder get Rayray Felton

Now salaries + tax = 300 million

For....that

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

Better fit for now? I'd agree if we were making a playoff run. But with Randle's age?Seems like a superior fit.

Randle doesn't git the modern age NBA as he is mainly offense yet can't stretch the floor. It's clear the Mavs are trying to somewhat compete this year, which means Randle would have been too much of an experiment.

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

According to him he didn't have any deals after Pelicans took their deal off. Whether you believe that is up to you but I find it hard to believe.

We can agree to disagree then. This year Boogie was no max player because of injury uncertainty, market, and not being game-ready before January or something. So he figured that he might as well chase a ring in the meantime. The Mavs had no shot unless they were willing to max him out, which would have been hella stupid.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

We can agree to disagree then. This year Boogie was no max player because of injury uncertainty, market, and not being game-ready before January or something. So he figured that he might as well chase a ring in the meantime. The Mavs had no shot unless they were willing to max him out, which would have been hella stupid.

Even then he turned down 2/40 with NO and set his mind on either BOS or GSW.

[EricaLubarsky]

Weird fact:

Borderline playoff team OKC has a payroll before taxes of 159.7

Dominant playoff juggernaut GSW has a payroll before taxes of 143.1

[Underdog]

Sources: Thunder, Carmelo Anthony to part ways this summer
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...hony-part-ways

[BPo001]

Originally Posted by Underdog

Sources: Thunder, Carmelo Anthony to part ways this summer
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...hony-part-ways

So Lakers or Houston?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by BPo001

So Lakers or Houston?

Both teams deserve him...

[hayth.james.g]

When I read about Melo, I immediately start to think about advanced statistics and "moneyball". I get the marketing value he brings to putting butts in seats, but I just don't see his appeal beyond that.

[Underdog]

@bansky: so... this was an absolutely FASCINATING listen with the 3 Cavs beat writers: https://923thefan.radio.com/articles...and-joe-vardon

they cover just how bad the disdain was between Kyrie and LeBron in the first hour and it's wild. there's tidbits like

1. lebron telling Kyrie after a game when he was with the heat "you never know man i might come back here and we might be playing together" & kyrie hating that

2. Kyrie NEVER wanted LeBron there. didn't want to be under his shadow.

3. It wasn't on the court stuff that bothered Kyrie. it was off the court stuff. LeBron used to haze Kyrie and he HATED it

4. Kyrie was going to ask for a trade after the 2016 Finals. was talked out of it

5. when Kyrie was hobbling around the 2015 playoffs LeBron was upset. Calling him soft privately

6. they intimated that, even though Kyrie isn't scared of the big moments, winning isn't the top of his priority list

7. There were entire playoff series where Kyrie wouldn't talk to ANYBODY in the organization. Would show up to practice, do his work, leave.

8. Dave once asked Kyrie about LeBron's improved 3pt shooting and Kyrie was appalled, basically saying "he can't shoot like ME"

9. Kyrie resented how much sway LeBron had with the organization.

10. Kyrie's dad and Randy Mims (one of LeBron's best friends) had beef that played a part in the whole situation

11. LeBron did nothing to try to keep Kyrie in town until the Cavs told him they had the deal set up with Boston. Then he told them it was a bad deal and to not trade Kyrie.

12. The writers said the LeBron Kyrie relationship was much worse than they realized. and LeBron essentially confirmed that this season

13. the "little brother" thing drove Kyrie crazy.

14. The overarching point seems to be that Kyrie simply NEVER wanted LeBron on the team. ever. he wanted his own team and didn't want to be under LeBron's arm or shadow. he hated the attention LeBron got and power he had

the other two hours of that show are really good too. they detail how much Kyrie didn't like Ty Lue. they talk about how fractured Love and LeBron's relationship is too. How much Wade broke the locker room this season. it's a must listen. https://923thefan.radio.com/articles...and-joe-vardon

[EricaLubarsky]

Tony Parker on the move?


To Charlotte?

Edit: now Shams is reporting it as official. Not just a tweet from Batum

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Tony Parker on the move?


To Charlotte?

Edit: not Shams is reporting. Not just a tweet from Batum

Random... I figured he'd retire a Spur.

[Underdog]

@TheSteinLine: The Houston Rockets are among the teams that will have interest in Carmelo Anthony once he secures his free agency, according to league sources

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by Underdog

@TheSteinLine: The Houston Rockets are among the teams that will have interest in Carmelo Anthony once he secures his free agency, according to league sources

[Underdog]

@wojespn: Tony Parker has agreed to a two-year, $10M deal with Charlotte, league source tells ESPN

@wojespn: Source: Parker called Gregg Popovich in the last hour to inform him of decision to accept Charlotte offer. Spurs wanted Parker back, but Parker will take on a significant role with Hornets behind Kemba Walker.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Underdog

@wojespn: Tony Parker has agreed to a two-year, $10M deal with Charlotte, league source tells ESPN

@wojespn: Source: Parker called Gregg Popovich in the last hour to inform him of decision to accept Charlotte offer. Spurs wanted Parker back, but Parker will take on a significant role with Hornets behind Kemba Walker.

Kinda reminds me of when Kidd signed with the Knicks. Spurs unraveling.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Kinda reminds me of when Kidd signed with the Knicks. Spurs unraveling.

[Underdog]

[sefant77]

Kings with the 4/80 fully guaranteed offersheet to LaVine. Not sure if the Bulls match. If they match pls offer Capela 4/80.

Let the other teams suffer

[Underdog]

@wojespn: San Antonio Spurs restricted free agent Kyle Anderson has signed a four-year, $37.2 million offer sheet with the Memphis Grizzlies, league sources told ESPN.

@wojespn: Deal includes a 15 percent trade kicker, source tells ESPN. Spurs have 48 hours to match.

[Underdog]

[sefant77]

waaaay too much for Slo-Mo

[Bryan_Wilson]

Originally Posted by sefant77

Kings with the 4/80 fully guaranteed offersheet to LaVine. Not sure if the Bulls match. If they match pls offer Capela 4/80.

Let the other teams suffer

The Bulls have decided to match Sacramento's $78M offer sheet to Zach LaVine, league sources tell ESPN.

-Woj

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Wow, Portland kept Nurkic for a reasonable 4/53.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Wow, Portland kept Nurkic for a reasonable 4/53.

They waited until all the money dried up before they made an offer... The upside of having an RFA in a tight market.