04-21-2008, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nikeball
I feel that the Detroit Pistons have been the most overrated team in the past few years. Sure they made Eastern Conference Finals for a few years but would they get past the first round in the West? Everytime the Pistons lose people just make up excuses. "They were being lackadaisical." "They haven't been playing with fire we normally see." "They weren't playing their best." Can't you say that about most teams? If they lose they weren't playing their best? Maybe other teams were causing them not to play their best?
Maybe perhaps...they aren't that good??
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You've got to be kidding. If they were in the West they'd be right there with the Spurs, Lakers and Hornets. Joe Dumars has done a great job putting that team together. He's made a solid bench out of some late 1st rounders, 2nd and undrafted guys. I think they're the real deal. I can't explain losing to the 6ers but they're definately as good as advertised. The Celtics are getting all the shine but if they were to lose to the Pistons i'd have a hard time calling it an upset.
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04-21-2008, 03:56 PM
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I still can't get over this. The 76ers? Really??
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04-21-2008, 04:42 PM
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Houston people love excuses.
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"I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all."
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04-21-2008, 04:46 PM
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just wanted everyone to know I have a psychological profile on every member of this message board. It's taken me 5 years of my life. I am done now, think I will go now. Good Bye.
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04-21-2008, 07:02 PM
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04-21-2008, 07:49 PM
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Man, Lebron is so soft. I can't believe he didn't pimp slap Haywood.
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04-21-2008, 08:16 PM
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lebron is scary. He sucks at the FT line today and launches too many threes, but his numbers are still up there with the best of the best. If he makes his FTs he can drop 40 on you any given night plus he is a triple double thread...damn
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04-21-2008, 08:19 PM
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one more rebound for lebron and we are looking at a triple-double
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04-21-2008, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
Cleveland is going to take over this game once LeBron comes back in. No way he lets Gilbert beat him.
Saaa-weep.
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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one
Just wait till the Wizards lose this one... Kaboom. Gilbert is too arrogant to take a loss well.
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I said this during game one and you guys said I was crazy.
Isn't a sweep yet obviously but I was right about the wizards doing a lot worse after game 1.
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04-21-2008, 09:57 PM
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tmac is playing GREAT... scola and hayes need to dunk rockets would be winning if they would just dunk its pathetic.
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04-21-2008, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR
tmac is playing GREAT... scola and hayes need to dunk rockets would be winning if they would just dunk its pathetic.
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You need to f'ing watch your language.
Thanks....
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04-21-2008, 10:17 PM
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Let's go Utah Kirilinkos
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04-21-2008, 10:20 PM
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Jazz are scary good.
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04-21-2008, 10:22 PM
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AS for people who may think the Pistons are not that good, nonsense... they are one of the best teams in the NBA, had the 2nd best record, and have a legitimate chance of winning it all.
76ers game alot of "flukey" stuff happened for the Sixers to win... Evans (47% FT) went 2/2 from the line, made a midrange jumper.. BILLUPS (92% FT) missed three free throws, Sheed missed the 8 foot "BUNNY", Tayshaun missed a wide open shot, Pistons shot 29% for the 2nd half. the Sixers deserved the win, but the Pistons will still probably win in 5-6 because that kind of stuff happening again would be like lightning hitting the same place twice...and I still believe they'll represent the East in the Finals (against the Mavs )
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04-21-2008, 10:32 PM
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great ...williams is out..
Pistons are still riding that championship from 4 years ago and are gonna ride it to the grave.
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04-21-2008, 11:07 PM
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nice FLOP by AK47
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04-21-2008, 11:09 PM
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tmac.
qtr 1-3: 22 pts
qtr 4: 1pt.
bigger mental midget than jho?
edit: 22 pts in qtr 1-3 ... I thought the in game stat for TNT said 23 in QTR 1-3..I guess I saw it wrong.
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04-21-2008, 11:14 PM
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This is great, but we knew it would happen like this.
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04-21-2008, 11:18 PM
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lol @ Scola for the push.
Why can't the Rockets make free throws?
Doesn't really matter now. They look like us.
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04-21-2008, 11:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nikeball
tmac.
qtr 1-3: 23 pts
qtr 4: 1pt.
bigger mental midget than jho?
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Hahah maybe...or...same person?
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"I still go through it in my head," Nowitzki said. "One of my last nights in Germany [last month], I was trying to go to sleep, but I couldn't. I was thinking about the free throw I missed [late in Game 3], about different situations that happened in that series. I'll never forget it. It's going to stay in my mind until we win it all."
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04-21-2008, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ghazi
Jazz are scary good.
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So will the rockettes fire adelman??? hope, I hope, I hope.
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04-21-2008, 11:33 PM
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AK had a beautiful flop (got watch the highlights on NBA.com and see). With 35 seconds left, you don't call something that ticky-tack. Especially in a damn playoff game. Everything is allowed with 30 seconds to go in a playoff game. Tony Brothers is a horrible referee who has no business in the playoffs. He cost the Rockets a shot at the game. It was not a right call. Scola held his arm out and that dumb jizz player ran the other way (he actually ran into Scola).
He snuck in under the arm, grabbed it and pulled it up with himself while jerking like he'd been hit, then looked at the refs with that freaking caveman rectangular mug of his and begged for the call. Bad call...the definition of flop..
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04-21-2008, 11:33 PM
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McLady actually is similar to Jho in that he can't shoot but still takes jump shots.
Odom used to be the same way, but his FG % has skyrocketed ever since he took the jump shot out of his arsenal.
As for the Jazz, they're a really "aesthetically pleasing" :P team to watch.... they dominate the boards, they have depth, you can tell they're well coached based on their execution, their defense is pretty good too... + the star power of Williams/Boozer.
To be honest even though it's thinking way ahead I'd rather play the lakers than the jazz in the WCF if the situation were to present itself.
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04-21-2008, 11:35 PM
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I thought this was the most impressive thing about their game. They were suffocating them out at the perimeter, and were guarding the paint well, contesting everything.
They were swarming in the 4th quarter. Defense really does win championships....or at least will get them close.
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04-21-2008, 11:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack
AK had a beautiful flop (got watch the highlights on NBA.com and see). With 35 seconds left, you don't call something that ticky-tack. Especially in a damn playoff game. Everything is allowed with 30 seconds to go in a playoff game. Tony Brothers is a horrible referee who has no business in the playoffs. He cost the Rockets a shot at the game. It was not a right call. Scola held his arm out and that dumb jizz player ran the other way (he actually ran into Scola).
He snuck in under the arm, grabbed it and pulled it up with himself while jerking like he'd been hit, then looked at the refs with that freaking caveman rectangular mug of his and begged for the call. Bad call...the definition of flop..
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AK beat Houston at their own game when it counted. He flopped after Scola/Battier flop the whole game. AK was running toward Tmac and Scola stretched his arm out at the last second.
Is anyone listening to Magic? "Tmac delivered a superstar performance, gave it his all..couldnt do much else." If Dirk did that for the first 3 periods and nothing in the 4th..We would've heard how much of a choker he was..didn't step up when his teammates needed him. That pisses me off.
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04-21-2008, 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by nikeball
AK beat Houston at their own game when it counted. He flopped after Scola/Battier flop the whole game. AK was running toward Tmac and Scola stretched his arm out at the last second.
Is anyone listening to Magic? "Tmac delivered a superstar performance, gave it his all..couldnt do much else." If Dirk did that for the first 3 periods and nothing in the 4th..We would've heard how much of a choker he was..didn't step up when his teammates needed him. That pisses me off.
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EVERYONE flopped the whole game. But with 35 seconds left in the game? You don't make that kind of a call, at the tail end of a close playoff game. Especially on a flop like that. I think the replay is up at NBA.com. Go check it out.
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04-21-2008, 11:50 PM
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Flopping is the smartest move in basketball, the smartest bar none. The refs are too stupid to call getting bumped in the chest and dislodged by the offensive guy. They are too stupid to see players initiate contact and get calls.
They have no public accountability at all. Bad call, tough s***. NBA refs make this game nearly unwatchable.
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04-22-2008, 12:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack
EVERYONE flopped the whole game. But with 35 seconds left in the game? You don't make that kind of a call, at the tail end of a close playoff game. Especially on a flop like that. I think the replay is up at NBA.com. Go check it out.
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Rockets had their chances. At the time I thought it was the right call. Only after looking at the replay did I notice it was a flop. Besides, Rockets got away with plenty of calls. It shouldn't have been close at all.
I don't know how many times I have to keep reminding you, but scrubs that play with heart will only take you so far. That was the case tonight. Talent always comes out on top, unless you're Tmac of course. And I don't feel sorry for him either.
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04-22-2008, 12:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GuerillaBlack
EVERYONE flopped the whole game. But with 35 seconds left in the game? You don't make that kind of a call, at the tail end of a close playoff game. Especially on a flop like that. I think the replay is up at NBA.com. Go check it out.
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It's easy to say don't make that call when you have the benefit of replay. Had Scola actually thrown AK down in a manner like AK made it look like, then a foul would have been warranted. That's what the ref thought he saw. He got fooled, which is the entire purpose behind flopping. There's nothing you can do.
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04-22-2008, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by nikeball
tmac.
qtr 1-3: 23 pts
qtr 4: 1pt.
bigger mental midget than jho?
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there's more to basketball than just points.
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04-22-2008, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by nikeball
AK beat Houston at their own game when it counted. He flopped after Scola/Battier flop the whole game. AK was running toward Tmac and Scola stretched his arm out at the last second.
Is anyone listening to Magic? "Tmac delivered a superstar performance, gave it his all..couldnt do much else." If Dirk did that for the first 3 periods and nothing in the 4th..We would've heard how much of a choker he was..didn't step up when his teammates needed him. That pisses me off.
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It depends. If Dirk kept getting dudes wide open layups that they continued to brick because they didn't try to dunk the ball then I wouldn't say that. T-Mac played poorly in Game 1 but he brought it tonight. I blame him for missing FT's...the same blame I place on the rest of the team for their freebie misses. But he was clearly doubled all throughout the 4th and kept getting dudes shots that they continued to miss. Scola missed two lay-ups in the last two minutes....one with 30-40 seconds to go to cut the lead to one.
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04-22-2008, 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by antoinewalker
there's more to basketball than just points.
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There's also lack of points.
And inefficiency in scoring them. Like your namesake.
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04-22-2008, 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by antoinewalker
there's more to basketball than just points.
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Not at the end of the game...only one thing matters...points on the scoreboard.
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04-22-2008, 12:32 AM
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Teams gone fishing already -
Wizards (arenas on one leg and one wrist against lebron ain't gonna cut it)
Nuggets (nice defense and nice job by your coach admitting you wanted N.O. in rnd. 1)
Rockets (t-mac, ask for a trade and ship your ass back to the east where you might have a chance)
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Mavs (Chris Paul just proved that nothing has changed in 2 years..he's doing what Wade did in '05 and what Davis did last year. If he goes off for 30 pts and shoots 50% in game 2, you can stick a fork in the mavs.)
Hawks (celts D is too tough)
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04-22-2008, 12:41 AM
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Not T-Macs fault:
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04-22-2008, 12:53 AM
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Not T-Macs fault:
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That is one amazing stat line. What it says about the rest of the team is LOUD.
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04-22-2008, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nikeball
Not at the end of the game...only one thing matters...points on the scoreboard.
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in terms of who won and who lost, points are what matter, however, a player's performance isn't based solely on points.
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04-22-2008, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Flacolaco
There's also lack of points.
And inefficiency in scoring them. Like your namesake.
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my "inefficiency in scoring" got me a ring.
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04-22-2008, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by ghazi
McLady actually is similar to Jho in that he can't shoot but still takes jump shots.
Odom used to be the same way, but his FG % has skyrocketed ever since he took the jump shot out of his arsenal.
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post of the thread.
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04-22-2008, 06:35 AM
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TMac made up for game 1 tonight I guess.
Still glad to see him headed home soon.
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