05-02-2010, 06:27 PM
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WIN! David Murphy FTW. Feliz gets the save on his 22nd birthday. Back above .500 and...
First place Texas Rangers!
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05-02-2010, 06:29 PM
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I wonder if CJ is for real? I watched today's game and he had Seattle looking silly at times.
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While it's relatively easy to make Seattle look silly, I don't think there's any question that CJ is for real. My only question with him moving to the rotation was how many pitches he threw per inning as a reliever. But he looks even more comfortable and in rhythm as a starter, which shouldn't really be that surprising considering he was a starter all through the minors and when he first made the majors.
I feel more confident about CJ moving forward than any pitcher in our rotation.
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05-02-2010, 06:31 PM
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I wonder if CJ is for real? I watched today's game and he had Seattle looking silly at times.
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I hope so. But whatever the case, he is in a serious groove right now. If you had told me in 2008 that CJ would not only be a starter in two years, but would be near the top in ERA after a month, I would have laughed in your face. I remember in 2008 how he had such an awful year. Then he was great last season, and even better so far in 2010.
So is this all Mike Maddux? I mean WTH did that man do with the old CJ Wilson? Holy shit.
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05-02-2010, 06:32 PM
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First place Texas Rangers.
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05-02-2010, 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by mavspwnage
I hope so. But whatever the case, he is in a serious groove right now. If you had told me in 2008 that CJ would not only be a starter in two years, but would be near the top in ERA after a month, I would have laughed in your face. I remember in 2008 how he had such an awful year. Then he was great last season, and even better so far in 2010.
So is this all Mike Maddux? I mean WTH did that man do with the old CJ Wilson? Holy shit.
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He was very good in 2007. At this point 2008 is the aberration, and he was hurt and had surgery toward the end of that season.
He wasn't bad in 2006 either.
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05-02-2010, 07:25 PM
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I feel more confident about CJ moving forward than any pitcher in our rotation.
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he has the quirkiness of a dominant guy...I like that attitude.
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05-02-2010, 09:12 PM
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You get some right..you get some wrong. But, I was one of the guys that had always wanted the Rangers to give CJ a shot as a starter.
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05-02-2010, 10:37 PM
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A sweep of Seattle on the road against their top 3 pitchers. Very, very nice.
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05-02-2010, 11:31 PM
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A sweep of Seattle on the road against their top 3 pitchers. Very, very nice.
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Seattle's O is pretty soft...but those 3 pitchers are rather salty
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05-03-2010, 10:43 PM
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Sweet Jesus, Rich Harden is really enjoying his return trip to Oakland. Had his no-hit bid broken up in the 6th. But he has allowed no other hits and no runs. And even more impressive is his 9 Ks and ZERO walks after he has had major walk issues this year.
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05-03-2010, 11:11 PM
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Harden's night is done: 7 innings, 2 hits, 9 Ks, 0 runs.
Let's bring her home.
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05-03-2010, 11:41 PM
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A 2 run homer and a 4 pitch walk.
Yeah.
This is going well.
This is why baseball is stupid sometimes. These other guys play for 3 hours and then some asshole comes in at the end and pisses all over it.
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05-03-2010, 11:50 PM
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So the Angels give up 17 and the Rangers win. Not bad.
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05-04-2010, 12:18 AM
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I admit Frankie made me nervous tonight but BTB Feliz made me feel much better, (nice seeing him be successful in that situation).
Terrific game by Harden. A big strike zone by the ump helped, (it benefited both sides - though Rangers' bats were making much more contact with the ball), but he pitched with authority. He definitely feels very comfortable on that mound in that stadium. It would be great if the confidence from this outing carried over to future starts. It is obvious he has tremendous stuff - he just has to get out of his own way.
Great win. 1.5 games up! NICE!!!
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05-04-2010, 04:02 AM
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I admit Frankie made me nervous tonight but BTB Feliz made me feel much better, (nice seeing him be successful in that situation).
Terrific game by Harden. A big strike zone by the ump helped, (it benefited both sides - though Rangers' bats were making much more contact with the ball), but he pitched with authority. He definitely feels very comfortable on that mound in that stadium. It would be great if the confidence from this outing carried over to future starts. It is obvious he has tremendous stuff - he just has to get out of his own way.
Great win. 1.5 games up! NICE!!!
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His stuff actually hasnt been that great for his last couple of starts before this one. His off speed stuff coupled with poor control and an 87 mph fastball? Hittable. His off speed stuff coupled with good control and a 94 mph fastball? Pretty darn hard to hit.
Colby lewis has been AMAZING so far this year. So has CJ.
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05-04-2010, 06:56 AM
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Harden looked much better last night.
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05-04-2010, 10:41 AM
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Hope the Rangers can stay off of the National Media Radar...while performing as they are currently!!!
My hope is that they quietly dominate...then come all-star break time, someone notice the Rangers with maybe a 20 game lead!!!
Hey, I wonder what Hollinger would say about the Rangers?...then again, let me enjoy the fantasy that the Rangers are actually a quality Team this year!!!
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05-04-2010, 07:19 PM
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Alot of people were wanting to kick Harden to the curb after an up and down first few starts. This is exactly why you don't give up on a guy like him after 4 starts. When he's on, he is simply too dominant.
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05-04-2010, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Five-ofan
His stuff actually hasnt been that great for his last couple of starts before this one. His off speed stuff coupled with poor control and an 87 mph fastball? Hittable. His off speed stuff coupled with good control and a 94 mph fastball? Pretty darn hard to hit.
Colby lewis has been AMAZING so far this year. So has CJ.
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Absolutely - Lewis has been fantastic. He keeps this up and he should be an all-star and actually be in the discussion for Cy Young. Sure, I will likely jinx him, but he will take the K lead back over the next time he pitches and his ERA and primary statistics are all awesome. CJ has been very good as well - no doubt.
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05-04-2010, 07:26 PM
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Alot of people were wanting to kick Harden to the curb after an up and down first few starts. This is exactly why you don't give up on a guy like him after 4 starts. When he's on, he is simply too dominant.
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Yeah, but unless the Oakland gun is super fast, what excuse does he have to be 10mph less every outing other than this last one in Oakland. I wasn't one that was hating on the guy, but that speed that he showed last night was phenomenal from where he has been. He hasn't even touched 93 from my memory and he hit 96 last night, (might have hit 97). He has been around 85-88 most starts with some 89-90 pitches.
I just hope he keeps it up and I hope he continues to throw rather than try to paint the corners.
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05-04-2010, 07:30 PM
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I think I read that his average fastball last night was 91.8, up from around 88. He says he's been working on mechanical issues, hopefully he's corrected something.
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05-04-2010, 07:45 PM
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Yeah, there were times when Harden put the fastball right down the middle of the plate, but it was at 95, I think once even at 96. Seems slow, but we're just spoiled by Feliz I guess. But clearly, those fastballs down the plate were set up because Harden had very, very good control of his breaking pitches. Strike zone may have been just a little wide, but he was getting a ton of called strikes with his breaking stuff.
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05-04-2010, 07:53 PM
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Yeah, there were times when Harden put the fastball right down the middle of the plate, but it was at 95, I think once even at 96. Seems slow, but we're just spoiled by Feliz I guess. But clearly, those fastballs down the plate were set up because Harden had very, very good control of his breaking pitches. Strike zone may have been just a little wide, but he was getting a ton of called strikes with his breaking stuff.
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Look, I love my guys but yeah, that was a huge strike zone. It benefited both guys like I said above, but yeah, it was large.
Still, he pitched with authority. Before he would get down 3-1 and then try to throw a low off speed pitch HOPING for a swing. On his 2-1 counts last night, the few he had, he threw it right down the middle with authority. Just a different mind set last night. He has a mental block, not a physical block. Just get out of your own way Harden and you will friggin dominate.
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05-04-2010, 10:10 PM
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Well Feldman sure has sucked tonight. Vladdy just hit a grand slam though to get us back in the game.
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05-04-2010, 10:29 PM
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Feldman is getting destroyed...
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05-04-2010, 11:44 PM
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If you don't know why some people call Washington an f'ing idiot, you only have to look at the 9th inning tonight. There's a runner on second with no one out with Borbon up. Right now, .200 would look nice for Borbon. The count is 1-0 and Washington DOESN'T have the guy bunting? What in the hell is that idiot doing? The score is 7-6 Oakland...
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05-04-2010, 11:46 PM
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For Wash's sake, let's hope there was a missed sign. The only other logical reason for him not bunting was that Washington was back in the clubhouse smoking crack between innings.
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05-05-2010, 08:59 AM
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He took full blame and said he thought Borbon could yank it to move the runner over. Just wow.
He really is an imbecile.
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05-05-2010, 09:21 AM
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Borbon is hitting less than .200. He is a completely unproven major league hitter. He's a guy that could find himself in the minors sometime in the next few weeks if his batting average starts to slide back down even lower. That was an idiotic decision.
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05-05-2010, 09:54 AM
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Borbon is hitting less than .200. He is a completely unproven major league hitter. He's a guy that could find himself in the minors sometime in the next few weeks if his batting average starts to slide back down even lower. That was an idiotic decision.
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Yeah, he has been a big disappointment this year based on how well he played last year. Hopefully his average will continue to climb, because obviously he has hit better since the first couple of weeks of the year. Hell, the guy to take his spot may already be on the MLB squad, (Gentry).
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05-05-2010, 10:33 AM
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Yeah, he has been a big disappointment this year based on how well he played last year. Hopefully his average will continue to climb, because obviously he has hit better since the first couple of weeks of the year. Hell, the guy to take his spot may already be on the MLB squad, (Gentry).
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Gentry has been awesome but hes not an everyday big league player. Borbon has absolutely GOT to be bunting in that scenario though.
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05-05-2010, 10:52 AM
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Feldman is 1-3...is it time to consider sending him back to Minors?
Is Holland ready for a 2nd shot? Is Hunter ready to rehab and work his way back to the Staff?
Is Scooter an untouchable after only one solid season?
This team is about WINNING and if a bat struggles, a catcher struggles...they have no problem sending them down...do they have the same integrity when it comes to a Pitcher who is obviously struggling?
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05-05-2010, 12:23 PM
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Gentry has been awesome but hes not an everyday big league player. Borbon has absolutely GOT to be bunting in that scenario though.
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I don't think Gentry is an every day player at all at the MLB level. But, I have my doubts about Borbon being ready. I hope that he is, but I just don't know at this point. If Borbon is sent down at some point, I could see Gentry taking his spot as the #4/5 outfielder though.. Murphy would be slid into the starting spot. Vlad could be used 4-5 times a month in the field..
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05-05-2010, 12:25 PM
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Feldman is 1-3...is it time to consider sending him back to Minors?
Is Holland ready for a 2nd shot? Is Hunter ready to rehab and work his way back to the Staff?
Is Scooter an untouchable after only one solid season?
This team is about WINNING and if a bat struggles, a catcher struggles...they have no problem sending them down...do they have the same integrity when it comes to a Pitcher who is obviously struggling?
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Nope, not time to consider sending him back to the minors. His numbers were pretty decent before yesterday. No, not where you'd like them to be, but he wasn't pitching all that poorly overall.
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05-05-2010, 01:03 PM
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I don't think Gentry is an every day player at all at the MLB level. But, I have my doubts about Borbon being ready. I hope that he is, but I just don't know at this point. If Borbon is sent down at some point, I could see Gentry taking his spot as the #4/5 outfielder though.. Murphy would be slid into the starting spot. Vlad could be used 4-5 times a month in the field..
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Don't forget that Endy Chavez should be able to go at some point before the All Star break.
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05-05-2010, 05:35 PM
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Feldman won't go back to the minors. He's the designated ace (not saying he's pitching like an ace, but he's their guy) and the rope for him is quite long I would think.
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05-05-2010, 08:39 PM
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There is the chance that the Rangers will put him on the DL to see if he can "heal" and that can allow for him to work through his troubles without hurting us once every 5 games.
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05-05-2010, 09:14 PM
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i'm hoping he got back some of his mojo with those stronger final innings last night.
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05-06-2010, 11:57 AM
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05-06-2010, 09:49 PM
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The Rangers are being pitiful tonight. Had a 8-0 lead after the 3rd inning. By the bottom of the 6th, it's tied 9-9. We get two runs to make it 11-9, but KC gets two back in the top of the 7th. 11-11 now. How sad.
edit: and now we trail 12-11. Awesome.
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