Rodrigue Beaubois development thread - Page 61 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

dude1394 · 03-10-2012, 11:03 PM

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Yes. The foot never did heal properly, and after the season they did a second surgery to put in a longer screw. Booby has had precisely one complete, healthy offseason + training camp in the whole of his NBA career, and that was the one before his rookie year.

My bad...I sure didn't realize he had a surgery after last years playoffs, I thought that was early in that season.

jthig32 · 03-11-2012, 10:07 AM

I was as disappointed in Roddy last night as I've been all season. That was a game where Roddy has to be aggressive. He's playing a terrible defensive team, in a game where almost everyone else is going to have dead legs. Roddy has to figure out ways to be more aggressive in that situation.

j0Shi · 03-11-2012, 11:33 AM

I used to praise Roddy for not turning it over (think leads the team by now at the guard position) while handling the ball so much, but that might correlate with his lack of aggression.

But yesterday was lockout game anyway. Roddy, Odom, Ian actually had half-decent games while everyone else outside Dirk just sucked.

Budapest Maverick · 03-11-2012, 01:07 PM

I was just looking up Roddy's career per36 numbers, and as much as we're disappointed with his inconsistent play, his numbers are actually pretty good for a late first round pick.

17,6 points, with 4.2 rebounds, 4.2 assists, 1.7 steals, 0.8 blocks, on 45/35/81 shooting. He still has some hope, just needs a full training camp this summer, and work on his game like crazy. Still gonna be only 24 when the next season starts. There is hope.

j0Shi · 03-11-2012, 01:13 PM

You sound more desperate than hopeful tbh.

I agree though. I've always been the first to say that his production is better than the average and people's perception. I think you can live with his performance as long as you realize what he really is this season: A role player, but nobody who generates offense for you night in and night out (like JJB), is sometimes frustrating to watch (like JJB) and surely nobody that can overtake whole games.

b_o_r · 03-11-2012, 01:18 PM

Has to learn how navigate in the area from 3-15 feet. Must find a go to shot in that area.

MavsFTR · 03-13-2012, 10:06 PM

Another good game for Roddy.

mavsfan1000 · 03-13-2012, 10:13 PM

Roddy is a streaky player. No doubt about that. When he's down, everyone wants to get rid of him. When he has games like today, people get excited about him. I think he is doing fine for us. Hopefully he develops a little more consistency over time.

Firnen · 03-13-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsFTR

Another good game for Roddy.

he had a really nice game. But i really want to see game like that out of him about 3 out of 5 games.

GhostFace · 03-13-2012, 10:16 PM

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Roddy is a streaky player. No doubt about that. When he's down, everyone wants to get rid of him. When he has games like today, people get excited about him. I think he is doing fine for us. Hopefully he develops a little more consistency over time.

All depends on how fast or slow Delonte heals up.

b_o_r · 03-13-2012, 10:21 PM

Faded midway through the 4th but we saw the return of his defense. Young was quiet after the Mavs switched Roddy on him.

Bonus
He a hit couple of jumpers while on the move.

dude1394 · 03-13-2012, 10:42 PM

Roddy going toward hoop good, roddy not going toward hoop bad.

I really liked his calmness in the lane tonight. He should really Parker because he can get where he wants to go, he just may not finish it. He actually took contact tonight once, I was shocked and p,eased.

clutch#41 · 03-13-2012, 10:47 PM

Breaking News: Roddy on the trade block after having his best game of the season

Budapest Maverick · 03-14-2012, 03:43 PM

Come on Roddy, give us another good game tomorrow. Enough with the teasing. Show some consistency.

markus1234 · 03-14-2012, 06:31 PM

And dear Roddy....pass the ball to the open men sometimes (yes, he missed the shot)

just like Dirk passed it to you...

here's the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi4a7_0Ta0w

Right now only Dirk and Kidd make those unselfish passes.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-14-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by markus1234

And dear Roddy....pass the ball to the open men sometimes (yes, he missed the shot)

just like Dirk passed it to you...

here's the vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi4a7_0Ta0w

Right now only Dirk and Kidd make those unselfish passes.

Talk about cherry picking. I'm sorry, but if Roddy isn't God, then people will find something wrong.

clutch#41 · 03-14-2012, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Talk about cherry picking. I'm sorry, but if Roddy isn't God, then people will find something wrong.

AGREED!!!

Budapest Maverick · 03-14-2012, 08:07 PM

When somebody attacks the rim, there is literally almost always a wide open man somewhere. But passing back from facing towards the rim, is still not a good idea, and Roddy usually finds the man in the corner. If he would penetrate more, he could have more kickout assists, that's one of the reasons he needs to be consistently aggressive.

Also, you conveniently forget the pass when he made an unselfish extra pass to Carter, even though he could have taken the (open) 3, he passed it to Carter, who clanked a wiiiiide open three. Roddy still had 4 assists, and another 2-3 good passes, there was nothing wrong with his passing game last night.

j0Shi · 03-14-2012, 08:18 PM

Roddy highlights vs. Wizards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hR9EYM99hc

I somehow convinced Magix to eat my HD source for the first time

BGMaverick9 · 03-15-2012, 06:55 PM

Just heard some very interesting stuff from Carlisle in terms of what they've done to help Roddy's development. It'll be part of a Roddy article going up tomorrow on Mavs Fast Break.

Underdog · 03-15-2012, 07:11 PM

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Just heard some very interesting stuff from Carlisle in terms of what they've done to help Roddy's development. It'll be part of a Roddy article going up tomorrow on Mavs Fast Break.

Mavs do nothing at the trade deadline, get better anyway?

b_o_r · 03-15-2012, 08:11 PM

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Just heard some very interesting stuff from Carlisle in terms of what they've done to help Roddy's development. It'll be part of a Roddy article going up tomorrow on Mavs Fast Break.

Followill just spilled the beans. Carlisle has been showing him video's of JJB.

clutch#41 · 03-15-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

Followill just spilled the beans. Carlisle has been showing him video's of JJB.

we got high hopes for the kid

CadBane · 03-15-2012, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by b_o_r

Followill just spilled the beans. Carlisle has been showing him video's of JJB.

Funny...I mentioned in the GDT how Roddy was finally attacking off the Dirk PnR like JJB did...

SMC0007 · 03-15-2012, 10:55 PM

RODDY B!

wilmtalk · 03-16-2012, 04:57 AM

Most players that play in the NBA have spent most of their lives playing BB. Players in this country generally start in grade school. You don't develop BBIQ over night. It takes years. Roddy has not played basketball that long. He started late in life so you can't compare his BB knowledge of the game to most players his age.

When People say you can't teach BBIQ they are actually referring to the individual players potential. If a player has been playing long enough their potenial becomes maxed out. Most of the time a player in the NBA has hit that stage. They would only have a minimal diminishing upside left. There have been other players who started late also, but they were generally not thrown into the NBA with this little experience. Thats why he was always considered a project. He has all the neccessary physical attributes but needs much more experience that he has gotten to date because of multiple reasons. Anyone who has ever learned something on the job knows that you struggle untill the light finally comes on and it all makes sense. As others have said, except for certain aspects of the game you really need to learn things in practice before applying them in game conditions first. Compound this with a team in flux with little stability and what do you expect. Younger players need training camps more than veterans.

Whether he will justify the hope some people have or used to see in him will still remain to be seen. But those of you who at this stage of his development are ready to say that he will never be a point guard because he at present shows little BBIQ have not reasonably considered the circumstances and all the variables involved so you yourselves are thus ironically not exhibeting much of a regular IQ either.

j0Shi · 03-16-2012, 07:35 AM

Thought Carlisle would take him out after his completely unnecessary behind the back dunk fastbreak, which certainly fits the "Entertaining Roddy", which the coach doesn't wanna see. On the other hand: The AAC hasn't had much to cheer about lately, so it deserves plays like that.

He's had two consecutive good games in a row now for the first time since late January (25th & 27th against Wolves & Jazz), so it's a good sign.

Spurs will be another challenge. In the last meeting both teams completely shut down the driving lanes for all Frenchies involved. Parker shot 2-for-11 and Roddy got started when they pulled their starters.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-16-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by j0Shi

Thought Carlisle would take him out after his completely unnecessary behind the back dunk fastbreak, which certainly fits the "Entertaining Roddy", which the coach doesn't wanna see. On the other hand: The AAC hasn't had much to cheer about lately, so it deserves plays like that.

“Oh, I’m out, for sure,” Beaubois said when asked what would have happened if he botched the showboat act.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/maver...ht-to-showboat

j0Shi · 03-16-2012, 10:14 AM

He went over the top multiple times last night, too fancy in my eyes. Several behind the backs and stuff. Crazy thing: All of them (two I guess) ended up being wide open shots. One Carter long bomb (missed), dunno about the other.

SMC0007 · 03-16-2012, 10:26 AM

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He went over the top multiple times last night, too fancy in my eyes. Several behind the backs and stuff. Crazy thing: All of them (two I guess) ended up being wide open shots. One Carter long bomb (missed), dunno about the other.

A Dirk long bomb(missed)... Who also went over the top with a few too many 3's and loong ones, but when either of those guys are playing like they were last night, you take the creativity and aggressiveness as well.

j0Shi · 03-16-2012, 10:33 AM

Oh and he had one rondish moment, faking the pass to one side and then hit the trailer (Dirk) at the top in transition.

DevinHarriswillstart · 03-16-2012, 11:20 AM

I think Carlisle knows that if he wants the best out of Roddy then some flashyness comes with it. Roddy's confidence soars when he is allowed to do some French Jesus type stuff. You could tell that even when the 'Cats game got a bit close that Roddy's mentality was in the zone of knowing he was going to beat them. He needs to have that confidence in every game.

LSMF · 03-16-2012, 11:26 AM

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I think Carlisle knows that if he wants the best out of Roddy then some flashyness comes with it. Roddy's confidence soars when he is allowed to do some French Jesus type stuff. You could tell that even when the 'Cats game got a bit close that Roddy's mentality was in the zone of knowing he was going to beat them. He needs to have that confidence in every game.

Truth. And awesome way to state it as well. Rep to you, sir.

Kidd Karma · 03-16-2012, 11:30 AM

He's relaxed, he's playing basketball.

BGMaverick9 · 03-16-2012, 12:29 PM

http://www.mavsfastbreak.com/2012/03...w-as-a-player/

j0Shi · 03-16-2012, 12:32 PM

Nice one as always. Should quiet doubters of Mavs ability to develop young players. Feel free to include me.

j0Shi · 03-16-2012, 09:02 PM

Roddy's highlight play in transition from last night: http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2012/3/...-in-transition

AO41 · 03-16-2012, 10:15 PM

Best stretch Roddy has had of his entire career. Not just stat wise, but the way he looks out there. Hes just gotta keep it up...and do the some of that stuff against tough teams and in the playoffs...and Ill be on board.

b_o_r · 03-17-2012, 06:22 AM

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Best stretch Roddy has had of his entire career. Not just stat wise, but the way he looks out there. Hes just gotta keep it up...and do the some of that stuff against tough teams and in the playoffs...and Ill be on board.

I say his rookie year when he step in for Terry was his best stretch. It was a 5 game stretch. He average 18pts 2.6ast 3reb and probably was the 2nd best player on the team each night.

Budapest Maverick · 03-17-2012, 02:37 PM

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I say his rookie year when he step in for Terry was his best stretch. It was a 5 game stretch. He average 18pts 2.6ast 3reb and probably was the 2nd best player on the team each night.

As a scorer, yes, that was his best stretch, he was nowhere near the defender he is now though.