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tcat075 · 06-25-2009, 10:45 PM

http://mavsblog.dallasnews.com/archi...n-the-way.html

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More Maverick movement on the way
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The Mavericks are going to pick up another player, apparently.

Nick Calathes, the point guard from Florida who some thought would go in the first round, apparently has been traded to the Mavericks after he was taken by Portland with the 45th pick.

The Mavericks traded back the 56th pick to Portland and added some cash.

The deal cannot be announced until the Mavericks make a pick for the Blazers at 56.

Calathes would be a terrific addition. He's under contract with a Greek team, but he's also got a future in the NBA. Whether or not he's in Greece or with the Mavs, he's a quality asset to stockpile.

Obedon · 06-25-2009, 10:46 PM

WTF Portland picking Mills. They have similar mould in Bayless and they aren't playing him at all..

mavs777 · 06-25-2009, 10:46 PM

ok good draft I'm happy

darkwitzki · 06-25-2009, 10:47 PM

for the 56th, the Mavs select : Slava Kravtsov C
21 years old; 7'0"; 260 lbs

tcat075 · 06-25-2009, 10:48 PM

Pick is going to Portland. See my post above.

CapitanObvious · 06-25-2009, 10:56 PM

what if oden was traded to the mavs too? just sayin

dirno2000 · 06-25-2009, 10:57 PM

Note on Calathes' status

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• First was the news that Florida's Nick Calathes is staying in the draft, which is more interesting than at first glance. The word from his camp is that Calathes may be getting cold feet about playing in Greece this year. Apparently the team Calathes signed with, Panathinaikos, is going to sign veteran point guard Sarunas Jasikevicius. If that happens, Calathes isn't getting nearly the playing time he thought he would.

If Calathes gets drafted high enough, he may try to convince the team that drafts him to buy him out of his contract now, so he can head directly to the NBA. There isn't a provision in his contract for a buyout until next year, but maybe there's a solution that will make sense. If Calathes slips into the second, most likely he'll stay in Europe and try to get the team that drafts him to buy him out next year.

darkwitzki · 06-25-2009, 11:00 PM

Portland hints on trading him..

BGMaverick9 · 06-25-2009, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

Note on Calathes' status

Donnie getting jipped again...

Calathes forcing the team who drafts him to write the check for the buyout

TheMaverick · 06-25-2009, 11:03 PM

dang it

CapitanObvious · 06-25-2009, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by darkwitzki

Portland hints on trading him..

trading who?

SMC0007 · 06-25-2009, 11:06 PM

Think he knew the details on Calathes. How can he force the team to buyout his contract?

dirno2000 · 06-25-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tcat075

Pick is going to Portland. See my post above.

Apparently the report was wrong. We're keeping the pick

sike · 06-25-2009, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Donnie getting jipped again...

Calathes forcing the team who drafts him to write the check for the buyout

how much we talking here?

BGMaverick9 · 06-25-2009, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sike

how much we talking here?

Who knows...but it was a lot of sarcasm on my part.

badfish22 · 06-25-2009, 11:18 PM

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/49090611.html

Anyone you would want on the Bucks?

grndmstr_c · 06-25-2009, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by badfish22

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/49090611.html

Anyone you would want on the Bucks?

Not Ridnour, that's for damn sure.

bernardos70 · 06-25-2009, 11:21 PM

Why did we trade BJ? Who would ever do that? For anything?

CapitanObvious · 06-25-2009, 11:22 PM

Hello Michael Redd?

Bye Damp and Stack?

mavs777 · 06-25-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bernardos70

Why did we trade BJ? Who would ever do that? For anything?

You went down their?

grndmstr_c · 06-25-2009, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CapitanObvious

Hello Michael Redd?

Bye Damp and Stack?

No way no how.

DirkFTW · 06-25-2009, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bernardos70

Why did we trade BJ? Who would ever do that? For anything?

Addition by subtraction. Trading BJ = less suck.

EricaLubarsky · 06-25-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tybrock

Basically, our trade was Donnie showing a little attitude. We draft Mullens knowing the Thunder want him. We call them up saying you draft our guy, and we want your 2nd round pick for next year. Coming from the Thunder it could very well be like a late 1st round.

I may be giving them too much credit, but I like the sound of it though.

Thats how I read it. Its a nice poker move. We just traded the 22 for the 24+56. We then turned around and traded the 24 for the guy we really wanted and got a high second round pick out of the deal. We then trade the 56 for the 45th

We turned the 22nd pick into the first rounder we wanted, the 45th pick, and a future high-second-round pick. Not too shabby considering.

Whether anyone will be good is another question but turning the 22 into the 25, 45, and future 31-40 isnt too shabby, especially since I have faith that we wanted the Frenchy from day one and all the maneuvering got us two higher second-round picks.

Usually Lurkin · 06-25-2009, 11:45 PM

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T. . . . Not too shabby considering. . . .

It isn't - if the french guy doesn't end up getting severely outplayed by the point guards we could have traded up a couple spots to get.

dirno2000 · 06-25-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

It isn't - if the french guy doesn't end up getting severely outplayed by the point guards we could have traded up a couple spots to get.

I don't think we had the ammo to get up to 20.

sike · 06-25-2009, 11:52 PM

all of that manuvering is pointless if they don't actually do something to take advantage of Dirk's remaining good years...

Usually Lurkin · 06-25-2009, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

I don't think we had the ammo to get up to 20.

well, some of the early word was that we tried and failed to get up to 5. Maybe we could have tried harder.

edit: don't get me wrong. for a 'do as little as possible' approach to draft day, we did great.

Nowitzki4President · 06-26-2009, 01:08 AM

Since the Magic have traded for Carter, it may be harder for them to resign Turkoglu. Is there any possibility that we could pick him up?

TheMaverick · 06-26-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nowitzki4President

Since the Magic have traded for Carter, it may be harder for them to resign Turkoglu. Is there any possibility that we could pick him up?

yes, through a SnT (because he will undoubtedly get more than the MLE), but what can we offer them? Is Bass/Stack too much? I personally think so. Looking at their roster, they would have a use for Bass though so maybe there can be something there. With that being said, I would love to have Hedo join the Mavericks if we don't lose any of our core.
The Carter move guarantees that Hedo is gone IMHO.

Justin Credible · 06-26-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CapitanObvious

could this mean terry just might be traded?

This actually crossed my mind as well. It allows us to have another backup PG on the roster in case Barea/Kidd is injured, which takes one more role off of Jet and makes his departure less significant.

I'm not saying that picking up Boobie would've been intentional for that reason, but it does cover an additional base and make Jet more trade-able.

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Originally Posted by Mavsfan4ever

How would people feel about the Mavericks perusing Amare? I'm not sure who we offer Phoenix in return.

If we were to pick up Amar'e without giving up too much in return I'd be all over it. I think he'd be a HUGE addition to our offense and it seems like it could be done with Terry as a centerpiece given the fact that the Suns want to return to that quick run-and-gun offense.

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Originally Posted by badfish22

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/49090611.html

Anyone you would want on the Bucks?

Michael Redd seems like he'd be a great addition here and would fill a damn nice gap.. If they want Stack/Terry for Redd then I can't say I'd be opposed.

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Originally Posted by TheMaverick

yes, through a SnT (because he will undoubtedly get more than the MLE), but what can we offer them? Is Bass/Stack too much? I personally think so. Looking at their roster, they would have a use for Bass though so maybe there can be something there. With that being said, I would love to have Hedo join the Mavericks if we don't lose any of our core.
The Carter move guarantees that Hedo is gone IMHO.

It seems that there are a few teams that are in love with Bass, and if that's true then we need to knock on their doors. One team is Detroit from what I understand..

TheMaverick · 06-26-2009, 01:24 AM

I agree, we need to take advantage of having Bass.

Here is the latest video from fish:
http://www.facebook.com/video/video....79172734&saved

darkwitzki · 06-26-2009, 01:59 AM

Hedo would be great in Mavs uniform!, go Cubes!

mac222b · 06-26-2009, 03:04 AM

Not sure they'd have any use for what we've got. They can just let Hedo walk and save money.

mavs777 · 06-26-2009, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by darkwitzki

Hedo would be great in Mavs uniform!, go Cubes!

yes, Hedo would be ideal at SF create many mis matches, then you can package a mix of Terry/ Howard/ Stack/ Hollins/ Singleton for a bona fide big

dude1394 · 06-26-2009, 07:17 AM

Does anyone else think that boobie looks like a devin replacement? Except shoots better from outside?

MavsX · 06-26-2009, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by CapitanObvious

Call me crazy but I really feel like there will be a mavs trade for one of the top 5 picks.

you should ask the Mods to change your user name to "CapitanIdiot"

hahah lmao

tcat075 · 06-26-2009, 07:53 AM

http://nbadraft.rivals.com/bviewplay...&PR=2#scouting

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SCOUTING REPORT
Positives: Quick guard with good ball-handling and passing skills...Has the natural tools to be a good defender -- uses his wingspan and lateral agility to stay in front of shooters...Has advanced ball skills, especially distributing on transition plays...Has become much more comfortable on the offensive end, showing the ability to create his own shot...Has excellent quickness pushing the ball up the court and uses his length well to contest shots, blocking 16 this season...Aggressive with his straight-line charge to the basket and even though his numbers were down this year, he has a quick release shooting from the charity stripe...Also has valid NBA 3-point range, making 37.1 percent the last two seasons...One of the quickest point guards in this draft, he has no problem slashing when the lane opens up...Lockdown defender in one-on-one situations, knows how to use his great wingspan (6'9 3/4") to engulf the shooter...Despite his size, he is determined to get to rebounds, converting more than 60 percent of his chances on putbacks when taking the ball from the offensive glass...Has a good handle on the ball, especially when executing dish-and-drive plays...Has a bit of Tony Parker in him, as his lateral agility and body control allow him to shift gears in an instant...Has developed the savvy spin moves and hesitation move to get separation on the way to the basket...Plays to the crowd too much at times but he rarely gets out of control with his demeanor to draw foolish fouls...Has great balance to stop on a dime, forcing the defender to give him the space needed to fade back and deliver a jumper or push the ball with a soft floater...Shoots with a quick and high release, getting enough elevation while setting his feet to come off the floor and fire over the top of an opponent...Does a nice job of shooting off the dribble and delivers crisp passes out of double teams to an open target...His great court vision and impressive maturity are shown in his remarkable low turnover totals (79 in 77 games).

Negatives: Did not begin playing basketball until his teens and still needs to work on a few areas of his game, including his release point on free throw attempts (60.7 percent shooter from the charity stripe last season)...Good ball-handler, but needs to develop a "pass first, shoot later" mentality true point guards have...His assist totals (141 in 77 games) are remarkably low...Has good range from the perimeter, but when he pushes the ball from his chest, he loses elevation and accuracy (3-point accuracy dropped from 43.4 percent in 2007-08 to 35.7 percent this season)...Still learning the nuances of the game and while he has good strength, some wonder if his frail frame can withstand NBA-type punishment...Because of his lack of bulk, he has problems vs. more physical opponents when trying to fight through screens...Good on-ball defender, but he gets a bit overconfident and will lunge and miss...Bit of an introvert and too shy, needing to develop better on-court leadership skills.

He's a good defender, which is awesome. Can slash, good rebounder, doesn't turn the ball over...I'm loving this kid.

Sounds like he is a better 3PT shooter than his 36% shooting last season would lead you to believe. He sometimes reverts back into bad habits when shooting which hurts the shot.

Definantly needs to work on free throws, though. 60% doesn't cut it in the NBA.

I hope we bring Kidd back, and I hope Beaubois makes the roster, just so Kidd can mentor him. Kidd would be able to do so much, I'm sure. Kinda like the Omar Vizquel/Elvis Andrus thing the Rangers have going.

Dirkenstien · 06-26-2009, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by badfish22

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/49090611.html

Anyone you would want on the Bucks?

If there is any way we can get Redd for a Stack + filler combo I would be ecstatic. Having a legit 3 point threat will take pressure off of Dirk in doubles and should open up some space down low. I'm telling you, Redd isn't the most athletic player by any means but the guy can create his own offense and carry a team. That kind of help would be huge.

Damp / Hollins
Dirk / Bass
Howard / Singleton
Redd / Terry / Wright
Kidd / JJ

Looks good enough to compete with but if we could somehow then pry away Kaman or a legit low post threat then we would be set to compete for a championship.

mqywaaah · 06-26-2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Does anyone else think that boobie looks like a devin replacement? Except shoots better from outside?

Quick! Someone change their nick to RodrigueBeauboisWillStart

sike · 06-26-2009, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkenstien

If there is any way we can get Redd for a Stack + filler combo I would be ecstatic. Having a legit 3 point threat will take pressure off of Dirk in doubles and should open up some space down low. I'm telling you, Redd isn't the most athletic player by any means but the guy can create his own offense and carry a team. That kind of help would be huge.

Damp / Hollins
Dirk / Bass
Howard / Singleton
Redd / Terry / Wright
Kidd / JJ

Looks good enough to compete with but if we could somehow then pry away Kaman or a legit low post threat then we would be set to compete for a championship.

Even in salary slashing mode, I doubt the Bucks want to move Redd.