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dude1394 · 01-14-2012, 01:09 PM

Pretty interesting...Mostly social commentary but the quotes from the original SI writer are good. Tractor Traylor was surely a sad case.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/165610...explains-world

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It’s unbelievable that these two folks were traded for one another. But equally unbelievable is that this was seen as a steal for the Milwaukee Bucks. Then CNN/SI scribe Dan Shanoff wrote at the time, “After trading away No. 4 draft-pick Stephon Marbury last year, the Bucks get it right in ’98 by stealing the marketable and talented Robert Traylor from the Mavs for an overhyped foreign prospect.”

I asked Dan Shanoff about this ill-fated prediction this week, and he said, “Looking back, I am mostly appalled at my simple-minded analysis and implicit xenophobia. Projecting (and developing) draft picks into Hall of Famers demands imagination that Don Nelson and Mark Cuban clearly had and I lacked. I also didn’t account for the maniacal dedication that Dirk would put in to honing his craft. It is perhaps the ultimate irony that as my 5-year-old son became aware of basketball this past spring, he announced that Dirk was his favorite player. Nowitzki’s talents are that obvious. I only wish I could have understood that back then.”

deamon · 01-14-2012, 02:05 PM

TOP10 of the week, Dirk at 1st (+ Wright at 5th)
http://www.nba.com/video/channels/to...s=iref:nbahpt1

dude1394 · 01-14-2012, 03:29 PM

Scott Skiles ... Almost sig worthy...
http://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2012/1/...pect#storyjump

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(On the Game) "Particularly on the defensive end, we needed a great competitive effort. Against a team like that with all the shooters they have, they're going to spread the ball around the floor and hurt you. When you're down 15 at half and Dirk (Nowitzki) only has four points, it's probably not a good sign."

LetsGoMavs · 01-14-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Pretty interesting...Mostly social commentary but the quotes from the original SI writer are good. Tractor Traylor was surely a sad case.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/165610...explains-world

This has been in my sig for a long time now.

endrity · 01-14-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsGoMavs

This has been in my sig for a long time now.

Mine as well on Spurstalk, it's something the Mavs fans have used for a long time.

CadBane · 01-14-2012, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

Pretty interesting...Mostly social commentary but the quotes from the original SI writer are good. Tractor Traylor was surely a sad case.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/165610...explains-world

Cool find...interesting to hear the writer own up to it like that. He doesn't even sound bitter or attempt to justify his choice with "well, at the time...". Nice to see.

dude1394 · 01-14-2012, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by LetsGoMavs

This has been in my sig for a long time now.

Very intelligent sig then.

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SleepyEye · 01-15-2012, 03:31 PM

http://www.thefastertimes.com/basket...-lebron-james/

A little strange but interesting articel about the perception of Dirk.

EDIT: oh, it's the same like above. Sorry. Let's try Delontes comments about Dirk instead:
http://www.telegram.com/article/2012...24/1009/sports

CadBane · 01-15-2012, 04:20 PM

“I remember LeBron talking about him,” West said, “and saying that he thought Dirk was the best player in the league and he really meant that. His skill set and the footwork and just being able to basically do what he wanted at his own pace. It’s like playing against your big brother in the garage. When game point came, you know he’s going to get it. He’s going to back you all the way down and shoot whatever shot he wants. He’s going to make it.”

dude1394 · 01-15-2012, 05:30 PM

Dirk Chitwood: "I'll make it"

dude1394 · 01-16-2012, 10:40 AM

I'm still wondering what the dirkster yelled to Delonte and why he was so animated about that win. Would love for someone to find out...it's the making of a team-mate and the forging of chemistry that is very interesting.

This article is mostly about LeChoke's failings juxtaposed alongside Dirk's greatness. A little gushy but when it comes to the dirkster gushy and hyperbole is okay.

http://www.thefastertimes.com/basket...-lebron-james/

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This past Wednesday the Dallas Mavericks were tied with the Boston Celtics. Paul Pierce had just landed a game-tying three, and the Mavs were down to their last possession. Kevin Garnett bodied up to Dirk on the perimeter, his chest against Nowitzki’s ribcage. Dirk stepped into Garnett, swung his elbow high and wide towards Garnett’s temple and drove so slowly and methodically to the basket that his grimace cut across my television screen like a crack through a thick layer of ice. When he got to within two feet of the rim, he wrestled the ball up in arthritic maneuver, was fouled by Brandon Bass coming over on a late rotation, and the ball fell through without so much as grazing the net–submitting to gravity is always easier than resisting it–and while the game winning shot looked like something from a middle aged Church League, Dirk’s ring made it into a stunning example of what it means to be a champion.

Dirk Nowitzki’s teammates pulled him off the floor; an act that last year would have made him look like a failed and wounded warrior in need of a crutch rather than a conquering king in need of anointing. They pounded his chest, exchanged war cries, and stared at each other with the utmost certainty. They believed in themselves because of Dirk Nowitzki and Dirk Nowitzki wins games, always, when in the past, prior to him having a ring, an outside observer might be prone to wonder whether Nowitzki needed more from his teammates than they did from him, that perhaps he sought mercy from defeat’s glare by counting himself among them, that he wasn’t ready to be what they needed, that his seven foot frame was hyperbolic of what the man truly was deep inside his heart.
People don’t ask those questions anymore.

The last player who came to Dirk Nowitzki after he outmuscled Kevin Garnett was the prodigal Delonte West. Dirk put an arm around his new teammate’s head, tilted it toward his lips, and yelled something tribal to a player best known for his struggles with mental illness, illegal gun possession, and the crude rumors of having slept with a much more talented teammate’s mother. But, with Dirk yelling in his ear, all that seemed to disappear, because when Dirk speaks on redemption and triumph and journeys out of the abyss now, well, now he’s a credible source and men of all walks and angles listen to a man like that. And the symmetry of the circumstances is enough to make one wonder, too, what LeBron James could one day be.

dude1394 · 01-16-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

“I remember LeBron talking about him,” West said, “and saying that he thought Dirk was the best player in the league and he really meant that. His skill set and the footwork and just being able to basically do what he wanted at his own pace. It’s like playing against your big brother in the garage. When game point came, you know he’s going to get it. He’s going to back you all the way down and shoot whatever shot he wants. He’s going to make it.”

A little more to add to that interview.
http://www.telegram.com/article/2012...24/1009/sports

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Delonte fan of Nowitzki
Delonte West has played with some of the NBA’s best, James, Garnett, Pierce and Allen, but it didn’t take him long to appreciate playing with Dirk Nowitzki. Even though West has played with Nowitzki for less than a month in Dallas, he sees why the veteran forward belongs among the game’s elite.

“I remember LeBron talking about him,” West said, “and saying that he thought Dirk was the best player in the league and he really meant that. His skill set and the footwork and just being able to basically do what he wanted at his own pace. It’s like playing against your big brother in the garage. When game point came, you know he’s going to get it. He’s going to back you all the way down and shoot whatever shot he wants. He’s going to make it.”

West said that just before the Celtics hosted the Mavericks on Wednesday, and with 5.6 seconds left Nowitzki did exactly what West had said: He backed down Garnett and then spun and laid the ball in the basket as Bass fouled him. Nowitzki’s three-point play broke an 85-85 tie and sparked a 90-85 victory.

“It’s a fun situation to be in,” Nowitzki said. “Everybody’s looking at you and your team really depends on you, so I like to be in the position where I can make something happen.”

Nowitzki is 33, but West marvels at how hard he works.

“In training camp,” West said, “when all us older guys were struggling, icing our knees, he was coming back running line drills on his own with the training staff. That says a lot.”

At the end of each practice, the Mavs conduct a competition and ring a bell whenever someone makes 20 of 25 3-point attempts.

“He’s always around 23 or 24,” West said. “The bell rings every day.”

West worked stocking furniture during the lockout so he was glad to see the season begin.

“It told me the league minimum ain’t that bad,” West said.

yann2808 · 01-17-2012, 07:34 AM

If U want to see Ian Playing in French league during the NBA lockout :

http://youtu.be/O6aW6zr7dbk

mavs05 · 01-20-2012, 04:51 AM

In germany, DiBa cancelled a TV-spot showing Dirk in a butcher shop after veggies flooded the banks facebook-page. Unbelievable!

Here's the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUt59ka6MP4

dude1394 · 01-20-2012, 05:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs05

In germany, DiBa cancelled a TV-spot showing Dirk in a butcher shop after veggies flooded the banks facebook-page. Unbelievable!

Here's the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUt59ka6MP4

That's nothing. Obama cancelled a pipeline that would have brought oil from Canada to the US to get re-elected. Unbelievable.

GermanDunk · 01-20-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs05

In germany, DiBa cancelled a TV-spot showing Dirk in a butcher shop after veggies flooded the banks facebook-page. Unbelievable!

Here's the clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUt59ka6MP4

Unbelievable. Everyone knows that salads can´t score

41creepingdeath · 01-20-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GermanDunk

Unbelievable. Everyone knows that salads can´t score

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM6xVQwIOYQ

Skywalker · 01-28-2012, 12:07 AM

How did this thread get out of the first page? damn.

anyway, just wanted to share this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPoAssEIjNE

10 years go by pretty fast huh

dalger · 01-31-2012, 12:12 PM

I don't know if it's a late slip, but someone's suggesting Dirk might have a drinking problem in addition to his offseason cocaine issues: http://vimeo.com/35648276

What's next, Dirk?!

Lestat_1795 · 01-31-2012, 02:00 PM

Skywalker · 02-02-2012, 02:20 AM

41mvp · 02-02-2012, 06:16 AM

It is sad to say but Dirk really sucks in this season.We know he is the greatest Dallas Mavericks player ever and everybody appreciate it.He is the NBA champ and it is great.But it is past.Now we have 2011/2012 season and 43 games to go.Yes i know this team is deep and our guys are good players but the most important guy is number 41.I am so disappointed his condition.He is not ready for this season.When we won with PHX,NOH or DET we are so happy but when we paly with OKC,SAS,MIN this team have big problem!WHY?Because our problem is Dirk.When he plays bad rest of the team also.He needs the rest.And when he will be ready for 100% he should play.It is sad but it is true.So Mr.Carlisle please give him a break.If he won't be ready for the Playoffs time we end in first round like in 2007 and 2009

twelli · 02-02-2012, 06:49 AM

I find it disgusting how some poster on this board write about Dirk, after what he did just half a year ago. Can't image that Duncan has received that amount of critcism and doubt by Spurs fans over the past few years he has been steadily declining.

Dirk deserves better than that.

Bayliss · 02-02-2012, 07:25 AM

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I find it disgusting how some poster on this board write about Dirk, after what he did just half a year ago. Can't image that Duncan has received that amount of critcism and doubt by Spurs fans over the past few years he has been steadily declining.

Dirk deserves better than that.

By that same token, the Mavs are paying him 20 million a year. And not for him to be averaging 15 and 6.

dude1394 · 02-02-2012, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by twelli

I find it disgusting how some poster on this board write about Dirk, after what he did just half a year ago. Can't image that Duncan has received that amount of critcism and doubt by Spurs fans over the past few years he has been steadily declining.

Dirk deserves better than that.

Unfortunately there are the same number of rude wannabes spur fans as there are here.

dude1394 · 02-02-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

By that same token, the Mavs are paying him 20 million a year. And not for him to be averaging 15 and 6.

By the same token he took less money to play here and has busted his ever loving rear end for a decade. Any conclusions being jumped to out of this cluster of a season are knee jerk. Everyone thought that the season would be cancelled and only a fool would create this type of season schedule and have a two week training camp all the while having a two week preseason trading period.

Very stupid and players are going to get hurt and many games are going to suck. Given the choice of this crappy product and a cancelled season I would have opted to cancel.

It still shocks me how the union signed off on this. And the owners are just as stupid, playing risks with their personnel.

JeffViggiano · 02-02-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by twelli

I find it disgusting how some poster on this board write about Dirk, after what he did just half a year ago. Can't image that Duncan has received that amount of critcism and doubt by Spurs fans over the past few years he has been steadily declining.

Dirk deserves better than that.

this.

he is Dirk.we won a ring because he played like a monster last year...he needs some rest.
i trust in him.no doubts.

oilfieldtrash · 02-02-2012, 10:31 AM

Dirk isn't done. He needs rest, surgery, or something. I think he'll return to form. Just might be next year.

Rick41 · 02-02-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Skywalker

How did this thread get out of the first page? damn.

anyway, just wanted to share this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPoAssEIjNE

10 years go by pretty fast huh

Man Dirk was so fast back in the day.

dude1394 · 02-02-2012, 10:38 AM

You know he actually may be done, one day he will be and it might be just this quick, but damn...yakking about his contract, disrespecting him...is pretty tough to take on a mavs message board.

Underdog · 02-02-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

You know he actually may be done, one day he will be and it might be just this quick, but damn...yakking about his contract, disrespecting him...is pretty tough to take on a mavs message board.

In the "Dirk is Great" thread, no less...

Boy, I wish I had a ban hammer.

markus1234 · 02-02-2012, 10:55 AM

Underdog · 02-02-2012, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

By that same token, the Mavs are paying him 20 million a year. And not for him to be averaging 15 and 6.

Yeah, because Dirk is the first high-dollar player to ever get injured...

(unless you think his stats are the result of him simply not giving a sh!t?)

dude1394 · 02-02-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

In the "Dirk is Great" thread, no less...

Boy, I wish I had a ban hammer.

You are right, I haven't been protecting the homer thread nearly enough.

dude1394 · 02-02-2012, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Yeah, because Dirk is the first high-dollar player to ever get injured...

(unless you think his stats are the result of him simply not giving a sh!t?)

Remember all of the dumbass Mavs fans who booed nashie every time he touched the ball when he was gutting it out while injured? It appears they are still around.

nashtymavsfan13 · 02-02-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by twelli

I find it disgusting how some poster on this board write about Dirk, after what he did just half a year ago. Can't image that Duncan has received that amount of critcism and doubt by Spurs fans over the past few years he has been steadily declining.

Dirk deserves better than that.

Very well said. Seeing Dirk struggling out there has been painful to watch, but it's just a slump/dealing with an injury. Will always stand by him as a fan, as any true Maverick fan should.

oilfieldtrash · 02-02-2012, 05:31 PM

NOOOOOO!!! Not Dirk!

This might be the end fellas. Charles Barkley was just on Galloway and says without a doubt Dirk is just old. 14 years in the league and countless playoff runs. Galloway counters with "well he was just the best player in the world 6 months ago". Barkley says It just happens that fast. Especially with great players. It's much more noticeable since he's such a great player. He said a guy that wasn't that good can hide their decline much easier.

Dim499 · 02-02-2012, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by oilfieldtrash

NOOOOOO!!! Not Dirk!

This might be the end fellas. Charles Barkley was just on Galloway and says without a doubt Dirk is just old. 14 years in the league and countless playoff runs. Galloway counters with "well he was just the best player in the world 6 months ago". Barkley says It just happens that fast. Especially with great players. It's much more noticeable since he's such a great player. He said a guy that wasn't that good can hide their decline much easier.

well... its been a good run .if all Dirk has done in his 15 years in Texas is making dude1394 less xenophobic its been worth it

sefant77 · 02-02-2012, 11:52 PM

Im pretty sure Dirks ASG streak will end.

Love, Griffin, LMA, thats three PF clearly above him right now. Millsap has a strong season, with Bynum,M.Gasol and Gortat three solid center that could be allstars...

Sucks that his streak probably end....Duncan got some undeserved ASG the past years but the competition is too strong.

And Z.Randolph injuried and Amare in the east and still a sick PF lineup in the west..

dude1394 · 02-03-2012, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dim499

well... its been a good run .if all Dirk has done in his 15 years in Texas is making dude1394 less xenophobic its been worth it

I'm not that xenophobic, I'm racist...keep up willya!