Official offseason 2013-2014 thread - Page 67 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

j0Shi · 08-02-2013, 05:40 PM

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...s-warp-2013-14

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9. Monta Ellis, Dallas Mavericks
Projected 2013-14 WARP: 4.8

Did you know that in his third NBA season, Ellis put up a .580 true shooting percentage while playing 3,073 minutes? Last season, he played 3,076 minutes, and his TS percentage was .493. If Rick Carlisle can somehow extract Ellis' youthful efficiency, the Mavericks will really have something.

DirkFTW · 08-02-2013, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Training camp fodder is the only thing that makes sense... Although I do think he could have value on an NBA roster - just not ours.

Super Spare just wants a chance to reenact this during practices.

NeedlesKane · 08-02-2013, 07:09 PM

I had an awesome time in Houston that day. The game was being played in Dallas, but I watched it with the Houston fans in a bar, wearing my Dirk Nowitzki jersey. I really should have put some money where my mouth was since I was telling everyone how the Mavericks would win by 40, not truly believing it.

When I say everyone I mean everyone who was a basketball fan at Rice University, NASA, and the bars I visited.

Attached is a picture from that day of me looking across towards the Toyota Center.

Rick41 · 08-02-2013, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Because it's common?

Still doesn't make sense.

spreedom · 08-02-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

So assuming they are guaranteed, why bring in more bodies to camp (Amundson, Carmichael) if everyone is guaranteed?

Trades?

Probably just to have more guys so you can scrimmage harder. Even with 15 guaranteed contracts, if your 15th man looks like a turd and is getting worked by the other guys, it's probably not unheard of for him to get replaced. Honestly, I don't get the point of bringing a really old player like Mike James to training camp, since you already know exactly who he is as a player. Maybe they think he has potential as an assistant coach?

Personally, I'd bring in 4 or 5 younger prospects that might catch on with the Texas Legends. That way if you have roster space later on during the season for one reason or another, at least the organization has gotten an extended look at the guy (or you can think about signing him next summer). I'm sure the MBT has that sort of thing in mind already.

BGMaverick9 · 08-02-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick41

Still doesn't make sense.

You need bodies to have proper practices and scrimmages. Are you wanting guys like Dirk, Marion and Carter and etc to go at it 100 percent the whole time?

They're guys that know what is going on and don't need as much time on the floor as the other to get integrated into the system and work live. They do need to work with the others, but they don't need as much time due to the wear and tear.

You need more bodies at that point.

DoYouEvenLift · 08-03-2013, 08:29 PM

Trolling? He talked crap about Lebron after we beat the Heat in the Finals.

DeShawn Stevenson: Miami Heat Where I Wanna Go!!! Lebron Make it Happen Twitter @DSteve92JMarie

yahyes · 08-03-2013, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

Trolling? He talked crap about Lebron after we beat the Heat in the Finals.

DeShawn Stevenson: Miami Heat Where I Wanna Go!!! Lebron Make it Happen Twitter @DSteve92JMarie

Watch it be to sabotage Miami

Melonhead · 08-03-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

Trolling? He talked crap about Lebron after we beat the Heat in the Finals.

DeShawn Stevenson: Miami Heat Where I Wanna Go!!! Lebron Make it Happen Twitter @DSteve92JMarie

Man what a sellout. Say it aint so

LSMF · 08-03-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

Trolling? He talked crap about Lebron after we beat the Heat in the Finals.

DeShawn Stevenson: Miami Heat Where I Wanna Go!!! Lebron Make it Happen Twitter @DSteve92JMarie

Et tu, Deshawn? :/

Underdog · 08-03-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DoYouEvenLift

DeShawn Stevenson: Miami Heat Where I Wanna Go!!! Lebron Make it Happen Twitter @DSteve92JMarie

Budapest Maverick · 08-04-2013, 12:27 AM

I wouldn't be shocked if it's a joke post from him after the Oden signing. They really do hate each other.

LonghornDub · 08-04-2013, 02:24 PM

I certainly couldn't say for sure, but I'm inclined to think DeShawn is messing around.

(At the same time, I'm quite sure he would gladly play for the Heat, if offered.)

Bayliss · 08-04-2013, 04:03 PM

Past relationships get thrown out the window when you need a paycheck. Deshawn doesn't strike me as financially savvy. In fact he would be one of choices I'd pick as an answer to the question: which current NBA player will be broke in 5 years after retiring from basketball.

Kidd Karma · 08-05-2013, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

Past relationships get thrown out the window when you need a paycheck. Deshawn doesn't strike me as financially savvy. In fact he would be one of choices I'd pick as an answer to the question: which current NBA player will be broke in 5 years after retiring from basketball.

Are there playoff shares like there is in MLB? That is what Deshawn might be after, he knows his days of a 3 year 10 million dollar deal is done.

EricaLubarsky · 08-05-2013, 03:16 PM

Stevenson just cleared waivers. Right now he has no contract and no paycheck. I'm sure he'd be interested in anyone about now.

yahyes · 08-05-2013, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Stevenson just cleared waivers. Right now he has no contract and no paycheck. I'm sure he'd be interested in anyone about now.

The sad part is he got fatter and still hungover off a championship.

spreedom · 08-14-2013, 01:27 PM

Wolves re-signed Pekovic. 5yrs/$60M, with an additional $8M in potential bonuses. Stein was the first to report that I saw. Flip confirmed it.

some1nw · 08-15-2013, 12:37 AM

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...a-jae-crowder/

Q+A: Jae Crowder
Talking uphill battles, guarding the NBA’s elite and all things Dirk.

FreshJive · 08-15-2013, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by some1nw

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba...a-jae-crowder/

Q+A: Jae Crowder
Talking uphill battles, guarding the NBA’s elite and all things Dirk.

What's it like to shoot .384 from the floor and .644 from the line and still be given minutes?

EricaLubarsky · 08-15-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

What's it like to shoot .384 from the floor and .644 from the line and still be given minutes?

You know he was a rookie last year, right? Nash is one of the most efficient players of all time and only averaged like 40-41% shooting his rookie season.

SMC0007 · 08-15-2013, 10:17 AM

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What's it like to shoot .384 from the floor and .644 from the line and still be given minutes?

Who else was gonna play his minutes? He was damn good defender, especially for a rookie.

Underdog · 08-15-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

You know he was a rookie last year, right? Nash is one of the most efficient players of all time and only averaged like 40-41% shooting his rookie season.

Nash shot 42% his rookie season, and shot a lousy 36% from the field in his first season with Dallas (3rd season of his career).

I definitely agree that shooting efficiency is something that can be improved over time - Crowder is only going to get better... And that's reason to have hope in Ellis too.

Kante · 08-15-2013, 12:53 PM

spreedom · 08-15-2013, 07:15 PM

sinsin · 08-15-2013, 07:18 PM

dalembert looks incredibly happy

EricaLubarsky · 08-15-2013, 07:24 PM

Any video or coverage from this afternoon.

And I have to admit that that pic of all the guys, actually makes me incredibly excited.

EricaLubarsky · 08-15-2013, 07:53 PM

http://www.nba.com/mavericks/video/o...ser_highlights

looks like there is an official one up

Bayliss · 08-15-2013, 07:54 PM

They all look depressed. Not as bad as the Kaman/Aminu/Gordon on their conference with New Orleans....

yahyes · 08-15-2013, 09:41 PM

Most of them look serious except for Devin. It feels like Monta can be the voice of this squad. He speaks with a lot of confidence and a chip on his shoulder.

EricaLubarsky · 08-15-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by yahyes

Most of them look serious except for Devin.

Devin knows this team well. He was with us 4 years and with us to our first finals run. I think he's probably the most comfortable being back.

I hope he can get with the new guys and help show how great a culture we have.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-15-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sinsin

dalembert looks incredibly happy

He better be in shape coming into camp. I can't see our defense having any chance of surviving if he doesn't bring it on that end of the floor.

But I am kinda excited for the season to start although I'm always excited for a new season.

FreshJive · 08-16-2013, 04:04 AM

The Nash Crowder comparison is extremely poor. Nash Shot .418 from three and .824 from the line his rookie season. He also shot .459 from the field, .415 from three, and .860 from the the line in season #2.

Crowder plays decent defense. Is an extreme liability on offense, and doesn't seem to be much of a rebounder.

markus1234 · 08-16-2013, 07:46 AM

People call Crowder a decent defender because his offense is even worse. In reality he is a bad NBA defender and his offense is not on NBA level at all.

The only good thing about him is his cheap contract.

Dirk's Knee · 08-16-2013, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by markus1234

People call Crowder a decent defender because his offense is even worse. In reality he is a bad NBA defender and his offense is not on NBA level at all.

The only good thing about him is his cheap contract.

I disagree. He's a high energy defender but made some rookie mistakes being a little too physical which often resulted in fouls. He's shown he's got the defender's mind it just needs to be refined. This season is extremely critical for him. If he's improved defensively and accepts he's not a 3 point shooter, he could be an extremely valuable role player. But if he hits the floor making the same mistakes as last year, his career in the NBA seeing anything other than garbage minutes will essentially be over.

EricaLubarsky · 08-16-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

The Nash Crowder comparison is extremely poor. Nash Shot .418 from three and .824 from the line his rookie season. He also shot .459 from the field, .415 from three, and .860 from the the line in season #2.

Crowder plays decent defense. Is an extreme liability on offense, and doesn't seem to be much of a rebounder.

You do know that I wasn't comparing them as players but just comparing early numbers, right? And your numbers from season 2 emphasize MY point.

Rookie seasons are a terrible place to evaluate talent, particularly on efficiency. Even Dirk-- who is a legend and HoFer only shot 40.5% his rookie season. Even Nash shot 36.3% (worst than Crowder) his first year in Dallas.

Would you have told me after Dirk's rookie season that he was terrible? Would you have traded Nash away for being inefficient?

Rick41 · 08-16-2013, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bayliss

They all look depressed. Not as bad as the Kaman/Aminu/Gordon on their conference with New Orleans....

This years Celtics presser takes the cake. [Humphries]

jthig32 · 08-16-2013, 11:14 AM

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This years Celtics presser takes the cake. [Humphries]

Yup.

Edit...wow...sizing. Hold please.

Ok, slightly better size:

spreedom · 08-16-2013, 12:55 PM

Bogans looks pretty grumpy there, considering he's getting about $5M more than any other team would offer him.

grndmstr_c · 08-16-2013, 01:27 PM

On the bright side, outside of his slightly ambiguous pronunciation of Dirk's first name, Monta's comments were completely non-cringe-worthy, and pretty much right on point for what you'd like to hear him say.