03-04-2024, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by LukaMagic
And since then he's been:
27.0 PPG
2.8 AST
4.4 REB
0.8 STL
47.9% FG
41.7% 3P
That is a very, very significant drop in assists. A drop by more than half. A ball in Irving's hands means that ball spending less time the hands of THJ and Green. He didn't have a single game with 5 assists since then and he averaged nearly 6. He came into the league AS A POINT GUARD. It is good for Mavs when he scores AND CREATES PLAYS FOR OTHERS.
And that drop in the field-goal percentage is statistically very significant.
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Its a lack of strategy. There's no reason we can't run similar plays to GS and treat Kai like Steph. Run him off screens and cuts...but our coaching staff is content with "give it to Luka and Fvck off".
I agree Kai needs way more touches, but its a total lack of structure. We need a new coach, like NOW.
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03-06-2024, 02:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
All Things Mavs
@All_Things_Mavs
Kyrie Irving returned from a six-game absence seven games ago
The Dallas Mavericks are 7-0 since then
In that stretch, Kai is averaging?
27.0 PPG
5.9 AST
5.6 REB
1.1 STL
58.1% FG
46.0% 3P (7.1 ATT/G)
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This, I think, was a great, great post. Suggesting how the success of these Dallas Mavericks can be unlocked. But it is a little bit easier said than done.
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03-06-2024, 05:47 PM
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I think we all found EL's burner...like early KD lol
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03-06-2024, 05:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saclare
I think we all found EL's burner...like early KD lol
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Hey, talking to yourself is the only way you can be sure of intelligent conversation right?
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03-07-2024, 09:14 AM
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KAT is out for the season. While tragic for them, the 8th seed suddenly looks more promising.
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03-07-2024, 10:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
KAT is out for the season. While tragic for them, the 8th seed suddenly looks more promising.
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I think most 8 seeds would almost be favored. I trust the Mavs to find a way to chump it. Regardless, wolves will fall to 3 or 4.
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03-07-2024, 10:58 AM
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Also Ben Simmons out for the season.
Thankfully Nico never entertained a situation of ?if he can get healthy?. Most of us knew it?s been over for him
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03-24-2024, 04:57 PM
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Oh man, remember Lamar Odom?
Arenas dropping some bombs about him on his podcast. Apparently, he'd watch porn on his locker TV before games. Makes me wonder if that behavior was still going on with the Mavs.
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03-26-2024, 04:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Oh man, remember Lamar Odom?
Arenas dropping some bombs about him on his podcast. Apparently, he'd watch porn on his locker TV before games. Makes me wonder if that behavior was still going on with the Mavs.
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I mean, I'd be shocked if he wasn't. His mental state definitely didn't improve when he camd to Dallas.
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04-07-2024, 09:03 AM
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04-07-2024, 10:04 AM
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Mavs are 5th in the west
Mavs have the 6th best record in the entire NBA
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04-09-2024, 02:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Mavs are 5th in the west
Mavs have the 6th best record in the entire NBA
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Mavs winning percentage after the trade deadline is 19-7,(second only to the Celtics at 22-4.)
That's a 73% winning percentage, which over the course of an 82 game season translates to 60 wins. And this is of course including that putrid stretch where we lost five out of six games, before putting Gafford and DJJ in the starting lineup. With Gafford in the starting lineup, we're 16-2. That's a winning percentage of 89%, which would be a 73 win season.
So basically, the Mavs with Gafford in the starting lineup are the greatest team in NBA history.
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04-09-2024, 06:52 PM
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On this day 26 years ago Dallas made a draft day trade trading Tractor Taylor for the 9th pick which turned into Dirk Nowitzki.
Exactly 20 years later Dallas made another draft day trade. This time they traded for the 3rd pick where Luka Doncic was picked.
Today should be a Dallas holiday.
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04-10-2024, 01:18 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Mavs winning percentage after the trade deadline is 19-7,(second only to the Celtics at 22-4.)
That's a 73% winning percentage, which over the course of an 82 game season translates to 60 wins. And this is of course including that putrid stretch where we lost five out of six games, before putting Gafford and DJJ in the starting lineup. With Gafford in the starting lineup, we're 16-2. That's a winning percentage of 89%, which would be a 73 win season.
So basically, the Mavs with Gafford in the starting lineup are the greatest team in NBA history.
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THIS is the kind of analysis that you just don't find anywhere else.
Mavs with Gafford in the SL greatest team in NBA history - prove him wrong!
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04-10-2024, 01:35 PM
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My small worry is where Josh Green fits. Don't really think the team needs him.
Are we going to get cardio Josh Green or contributes Josh Green?
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04-10-2024, 01:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson
Mavs winning percentage after the trade deadline is 19-7,(second only to the Celtics at 22-4.)
That's a 73% winning percentage, which over the course of an 82 game season translates to 60 wins. And this is of course including that putrid stretch where we lost five out of six games, before putting Gafford and DJJ in the starting lineup. With Gafford in the starting lineup, we're 16-2. That's a winning percentage of 89%, which would be a 73 win season.
So basically, the Mavs with Gafford in the starting lineup are the greatest team in NBA history.
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And how long have we all been screaming to get a center upgrade? Still boggles the mind that it took them so long. Seems like they got Gafford rather easily too. Can't tell me this wasn't available at other times.
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04-10-2024, 01:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
My small worry is where Josh Green fits. Don't really think the team needs him.
Are we going to get cardio Josh Green or contributes Josh Green?
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I still have strong memory of DFS and Bullock being run into the ground playing 40minutes/game. I know Josh is not an all world defender but as an option for competing athletically he gives us another option so we don't have to rely so much on THJ. On the other end of things, hope he'll be able to hit from deep and maybe get some chances on the fastbreak to make his presence known.
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04-12-2024, 08:51 AM
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According to Stein, an offseason extension for Kidd seems likely.
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04-12-2024, 09:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MFFL
According to Stein, an offseason extension for Kidd seems likely.
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What would your post-season measuring stick be for Kidd? Would you extend him if we got swept in the first round? Should we extend him no matter what for the 50 wins? Do we have to make it out of the first round? What do you think?
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04-12-2024, 09:59 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
What would your post-season measuring stick be for Kidd? Would you extend him if we got swept in the first round? Should we extend him no matter what for the 50 wins? Do we have to make it out of the first round? What do you think?
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If we beat the Clippers, we have to retain the man IMO. Even if we lose in a competitive series (they do have home court advantage), I think he is extended.
If we get humiliated by the Clips, I think all bets are off.
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04-12-2024, 10:59 AM
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Problem is there are very few good replacements right now. The great coaching FA was last summer.
I'd still take a hard look at Mike Bud if Mavs go out in the first round, but the Mavs won't do it. Hell, they didn't even fire Rick.
Again, if the superstars like Kidd, then nothing else really matters.
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04-12-2024, 11:01 AM
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As much as we have griped about Kidd, he's not going anywhere. Drafted as a player by the Mavs and will finish his career with the Mavs. Think about how long Carlisle was here. Kidd seems to be reading our posts about rotations. He's growing this season for sure.
Powell isn't even getting garbage minutes at this point. I think we are in for a long playoff run and hopefully a championship but if Nico pulls of 1 or 2 more moves this next season... Watch out league.
The team seems to be bonding with Kidd too. He seems like a players coach.
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04-12-2024, 12:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blessednegr0
As much as we have griped about Kidd, he's not going anywhere. Drafted as a player by the Mavs and will finish his career with the Mavs. Think about how long Carlisle was here. Kidd seems to be reading our posts about rotations. He's growing this season for sure.
Powell isn't even getting garbage minutes at this point. I think we are in for a long playoff run and hopefully a championship but if Nico pulls of 1 or 2 more moves this next season... Watch out league.
The team seems to be bonding with Kidd too. He seems like a players coach.
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Players coach, don't ask Larry Sanders.
He's coaching the way he played, trial and error, like a chemist in the lab. As a player, he would purposely over throw passes, under throw passes, trying to find teammates' sweet spot, but once he found it, he was never off target. But with new seasons, bring new players and new experiments for the chemist. Will Kidd ever win 60 regular season games, probably not, but can he win a Finals? Getting to the West finals, 2 years ago, I will say yes, his intensity picked up and so did the players. The way he celebrates buzzer beaters, it ain't another day at the office, not like when he was a player. You'd think he just won the Finals.
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05-12-2024, 01:33 PM
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05-12-2024, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MFFL
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44% shooter.
He's like 6months younger than Luka which will make other teams run from him. We don't need 19 year olds who are years from contributing. We need guys who can come in next season. Between Kyrie's contract and Luka's knees, our window to compete is 1-2 years.
We could do worse. Just hoping we can buy another pick to stash.
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05-12-2024, 09:29 PM
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The Athletic has us drafting Nique Clifford
https://archive.is/GAK25
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05-13-2024, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MFFL
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Hope not. Our FO has seemed to take a turn for the better since he signed including Dante Exum which I'm sure he had a hand in.
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05-13-2024, 04:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Hope not. Our FO has seemed to take a turn for the better since he signed.
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Totally agree. It was a veteran move to unload Bertans for a trade exception to move back 2 spots in the draft. AND got the guy you wanted? Then using that trade exception to gain an additional 1st? That's the moves of a guy who knows his business (not Nico yet).
Then all the moves at the trade deadline? Nico might have connections but Lindsey knows talent and its value.
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05-19-2024, 09:10 AM
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Chuck Cooperstein
@coopmavs
Per the great @jkubatko : The Mavs are just the 3rd franchise in NBA history to have a non-playoff season sandwiched by two conference finals appearances. The join the Golden State Warriors (1972-73 to 1974-75) and the Oklahoma City Thunder (2013-14 to 2015-16).
The 75 Warriors won the title. The 16 OKC team had the 73 win Warriors on the ropes leading 3-1 before falling in 7
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05-20-2024, 08:39 AM
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05-20-2024, 10:45 AM
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Good read. Good to know we can find the money to pay him and if we can pay. him, I think there is an almost zero percent chance he leaves. He took less money to come here and choose between Dallas and Boston.
1) Since then, he's said multiple times choosing Dallas was a good call and he didn't regret taking less to come here.
2) He has a consistent and successful role. He is having his best statistical season
3) He loves it here. He has said he never wants to leave Dallas. After game 6 he says Mavs players are his best friends and they are always staying over, hanging out together during their time off, etc.
The vibes, as they say, are immaculate.
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05-20-2024, 11:09 AM
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I almost hope DJJ demands the money so that we can finally move THJ. Hardy isn't gonna wait around forever to actually get minutes, and it seems like the writing is already on the wall with that.
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05-21-2024, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by MFFL
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Kevin Durant!!! lmao.
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05-21-2024, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
Kevin Durant!!! lmao.
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SGA got FOUR first place votes. I didn't notice him playing defense AT ALL in the Mavs series. He always tried to hide on our worst offensive player.
Durant getting as many votes as Paul George is absurd.
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05-23-2024, 05:44 PM
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By Zach Harper
Wolves dominate Game 1 but lose by three
MINNEAPOLIS
I was in the building for Game 1 of the Western Conference finals between the Wolves and Mavericks, the first conference finals for Minnesota in 20 years. The Target Center was louder than anything I've ever experienced in that building. The Wolves were moving the ball, knocking down 3s and completely dominating the Mavericks in the first half. And yet, you looked at the scoreboard to see it was only a three-point game. How can you dominate a one-possession game?
The Timberwolves maintained that level of play for most of the night. They seemed to control everything but never built a double-digit lead.
Kyrie Irving kept the Mavericks close in the first half. He had 24 of his 30 points by halftime and was pretty much the sole reason Dallas kept it close at all. Kyrie got almost everything he wanted in the paint. It also bought the Mavericks enough time for Luka Dončić to get cooking in the fourth quarter, when he scored 15 of his game-high 33 points. By then, the Mavericks were up eight and put the Wolves on a comeback trail.
Dallas won Game 1, 108-105. It truly felt like Minnesota owned most of that game, but star power kept it from truly spoiling Dallas? poise. We also didn't see Anthony Edwards take over at any point. He said he was exhausted after the game, and, while his statline of 19 points, 11 rebounds and eight assists was good, there wasn't any point he forced the issue. He played a measured game, but the Wolves needed him to dominate for a stretch.
Here are three things to watch for Game 2 Friday night.
Points in the paint: Thanks to Kyrie's relentless attack in the first half, the Mavericks dominated this category. They outscored the Wolves 62-38 in the paint, which is not how this matchup is supposed to go. Even though Minnesota cut down on that in the second half, there were a lot of timely lobs on drives to lurking Mavericks big men.
3-point shooting: The Wolves can't feel good about making 12 more 3-pointers than the Mavericks and losing that game. But that's what happened. Jaden McDaniels (six) had as many made 3s as the Mavs, and the Wolves still lost. Dallas won't shoot 6 of 25 again, so the Wolves might have wasted a brilliant McDaniels game.
Edwards and KAT: Karl-Anthony Towns had a much-needed big stretch in the fourth quarter, but his rhythm got deflated when he was called for basket interference on a big tip dunk. Overall, he had 16 points on 6-of-20 shooting. As we discussed with Edwards: Both must establish themselves early and close late to even this series.
https://archive.is/ntg3n#selection-607.0-611.11
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