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alby · 11-14-2007, 05:41 PM

p.s. go Lakers tonight!

GermanDunk · 11-14-2007, 06:03 PM

Anyone an idea where to look for current NBA-League-Pass-streaming ? I´d like to bookmark the page, so that i don´t need to ask again.

Regards

German

Flacolaco · 11-14-2007, 10:44 PM

Lakers giving it all back now

Houston = teh overrated

MavsX · 11-14-2007, 11:01 PM

71, 71 in the 3rd

lakers and rocketts

DavidDaMonkey · 11-14-2007, 11:24 PM

I haven't been watching, but I noticed that TMac has had low minutes tonight. He doesnt seem to have particularly bad shooting, is he hurt? He's on my fantasy team, thats why I'm so concerned

Flacolaco · 11-14-2007, 11:35 PM

This game is a beating to watch. They can't score the damned ball. Neither team.

DOMINATOR · 11-14-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidDaMonkey

I haven't been watching, but I noticed that TMac has had low minutes tonight. He doesnt seem to have particularly bad shooting, is he hurt? He's on my fantasy team, thats why I'm so concerned

yes, hyper-extended right elbow.

rockets lost because they can't hit a freethrow down the stretch. yao very uncharacteristic missing 5-6.
glad the rockets fought back the 12 point deficit from halftime without tmac.

kingmalaki · 11-14-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidDaMonkey

I haven't been watching, but I noticed that TMac has had low minutes tonight. He doesnt seem to have particularly bad shooting, is he hurt? He's on my fantasy team, thats why I'm so concerned

Strained/hyperextended elbow at least. We are awaiting MRI results and praying that it's not something serious like a tear. if so then our season is done, and good luck with yours....

DOMINATOR · 11-14-2007, 11:52 PM

wow why was rafer setup to take that shot... luther head should be taking that.

nowhereman · 11-14-2007, 11:52 PM

the most efficient player on the court was Yao. I don't think most people understand what an impact he has on the game, and he generally plays very mistake-free.

I am not surprised that the Rockets came back without TMac. I frankly think the Rockets have had too much Tracy, not enough Yao.

dude1394 · 11-14-2007, 11:52 PM

Good grief, on that last free throw wells put his head down and drove into the guy on the block like a football play.

Man......it's amazing what they let go sometimes.

Flacolaco · 11-14-2007, 11:54 PM

T-mac has Wade-itis

That's when you're not having a great night, so you pull something, and then they get to talk about what a warrior you are when you return the next game.

But seriously...The Lakers gave Houston every opportunity in the world to do something at the end of that game. The lakers sure don't play very smart basketball sometimes. Maybe their coach is too busy making gay jokes.

And1 · 11-15-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by kingmalaki

Strained/hyperextended elbow at least. We are awaiting MRI results and praying that it's not something serious like a tear. if so then our season is done, and good luck with yours....

I think most of the pain was from pinching the nerve so I am cautiously optimistic that he strained the ligament(with no tear) and pinched the nerve.

DOMINATOR · 11-15-2007, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

I am not surprised that the Rockets came back without TMac. I frankly think the Rockets have had too much Tracy, not enough Yao.

the W/L record with and without mcgrady disagrees.

And1 · 11-15-2007, 12:33 AM

Tmac just said the early MRI reading shows no tear to the ligament so it appears to not be serious. Will miss 1 week on estimation, perhaps a bit more or less.
But this could mark a possible 4-5 game slide counting the 2 current Ls.

kingmalaki · 11-15-2007, 12:36 AM

Whew...only out a week. THANK GOD!!!!

Flacolaco · 11-15-2007, 12:38 AM

Detroit has battled back to try to deny GS their first win.

go DET.

nikeball · 11-15-2007, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kingmalaki

Whew...only out a week. THANK GOD!!!!

where did you hear that? when i was walking out of the toyota center..some houston fan said T-Back was out for year..tear in elbow...i was going to start calling him T-Bow from now on..

however---

I went to the game to watch kobe..but came back disappointed that he passed the ball so much. but then he ended up with 30 points so quickly. The Lakers are TERRIBLE without him.

And1 · 11-15-2007, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by nikeball

where did you hear that? when i was walking out of the toyota center..some houston fan said T-Back was out for year..tear in elbow...i was going to start calling him T-Bow from now on..

however---

I went to the game to watch kobe..but came back disappointed that he passed the ball so much. but then he ended up with 30 points so quickly. The Lakers are TERRIBLE without him.

that houston fan was just fearing the worst

The good news for T-Mac -- it's only a strain.

Tracy McGrady sat in front of his locker, wearing gray slacks, an undershirt and had his right arm in a sling.

"It looks like my 2007-2008 season is over," he said to the throng of reporters.

After everyone gasped, he smiled.

"I'm just bull(bleeping) you," he said.

The preliminary results of the MRI performed at Memorial Hermann Hospital showed a strain. Dr. Tom Clanton called it a "day-to-day" injury. But McGrady said he was told that he could be out for a week.
"I've got a strained elbow and stretched nerve, whatever that means," McGrady said. "Some inflammation around the elbow. We'll see how I feel tomorrow and the next day.

"It's definitely good news because I actually thought it could be a lot worse than what it was and I could be out a lot longer. Considering that they say I could possibly miss a week or less than that, it's good information for me."
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fluid.forty.one · 11-15-2007, 01:41 AM

GS LOSES YAY

I'm also glad Houston lost.

nowhereman · 11-15-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR

the W/L record with and without mcgrady disagrees.

And adjusted +/- disagrees with that. Yao was an adjusted +4.25 last year, TMac was an adjusted +3.45 last year (credit 82games). And if you're wondering, adjusted +/- is statistically controlled for every teammate on the floor at any given time.

In games where Yao was featured prominently last year and T-mac didn't play, the Rockets were 2-4. I don't think that's enough of a sample size to extrapolate anything, and I think with Bonzi more involved this year, there isn't as much of a dropoff as there has been in years past in terms of having a swing-man initiate the offense.

alby · 11-15-2007, 03:34 AM

day to day, meh

he'll be hurt again

DOMINATOR · 11-15-2007, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

And adjusted +/- disagrees with that. Yao was an adjusted +4.25 last year, TMac was an adjusted +3.45 last year (credit 82games). And if you're wondering, adjusted +/- is statistically controlled for every teammate on the floor at any given time.

In games where Yao was featured prominently last year and T-mac didn't play, the Rockets were 2-4. I don't think that's enough of a sample size to extrapolate anything, and I think with Bonzi more involved this year, there isn't as much of a dropoff as there has been in years past in terms of having a swing-man initiate the offense.

interesting you pointed out those numbers. however who is the rockets playmaker now? tmac was by far the best passer and decision maker on the rockets. it's up to adelman now.

hope yao goes off like crazy though i have him on my fantasy team.

nowhereman · 11-15-2007, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DOMINATOR

hope yao goes off like crazy though i have him on my fantasy team.

he probably will. he went absolutely insane in that stretch tmac was out last year. I'd expect 30/15 from him every night this coming week.

(you know, except for when they play the mavs =))

alby · 11-15-2007, 04:23 PM

motion offenses requires everyone to pass, they will be fine.

alby · 11-15-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

he probably will. he went absolutely insane in that stretch tmac was out last year. I'd expect 30/15 from him every night this coming week.

(you know, except for when they play the mavs =))

I think Bonzi is the one that will pick up the slack=]

Flacolaco · 11-16-2007, 12:20 AM

the bulls have a severe bag tonight.

kingmalaki · 11-16-2007, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

And adjusted +/- disagrees with that. Yao was an adjusted +4.25 last year, TMac was an adjusted +3.45 last year (credit 82games). And if you're wondering, adjusted +/- is statistically controlled for every teammate on the floor at any given time.

In games where Yao was featured prominently last year and T-mac didn't play, the Rockets were 2-4. I don't think that's enough of a sample size to extrapolate anything, and I think with Bonzi more involved this year, there isn't as much of a dropoff as there has been in years past in terms of having a swing-man initiate the offense.

This is one of the examples where numbers can lie to you and watching the games reveals the truth. I love Yao but T-Mac is clearly more important (it's close though). A part of that has to do with Yao relying on others to get him the rock, and since he isn't athletic and the league allows you to zone a big now he can't have the impact of a Shaq, Hakeem, etc.

But who knows, maybe things will be different now that we have more scorers on the team (Bonzi, M.James, Francis). But we clearly lose the playmaker....

Flacolaco · 11-16-2007, 12:50 AM

the suns are having a definite off night, the and the bulls are just giving it to them

You suck phoenix.

your system is flawed.

Play that way against us. I dare you.

chumdawg · 11-16-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Flacolaco

the suns are having a definite off night, the and the bulls are just giving it to them

You suck phoenix.

your system is flawed.

Play that way against us. I dare you.

You dare them? The minute they do, you will bail in the first quarter and start bemoaning how bad we suck at defending the fast teams.

Flacolaco · 11-16-2007, 01:02 AM

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You dare them? The minute they do, you will bail in the first quarter and start bemoaning how bad we suck at defending the fast teams.

I certainly underestimated my beloved mavs tonight.

the Jet, and ESPECIALLY Devin Harris are playing waaaaaay over my expectations. I was very wrong about tonight, and happy to be so.

Flacolaco · 11-16-2007, 01:04 AM

Apparently marion can only make a shot when he catches it 6 inches above the basket

chumdawg · 11-16-2007, 01:13 AM

Apparently the Suns are kicking the ever-loving crap out of the media darling Bulls tonight.

That's a whole lot better than what I can say for the Spurs tonight, for what it's worth.

jthig32 · 11-16-2007, 09:49 AM

You know what I love? Looking at a Suns boxscore in mid-November and seeing a 7 man rotation, and Grant Hill playing 40 minutes.

Gotta love it.

dalmations202 · 11-16-2007, 12:39 PM

Who is the bigger media darling, Chicago or Phoenix?

Underdog · 11-16-2007, 02:21 PM

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Who is the bigger media darling, Chicago or Phoenix?

exactly

nowhereman · 11-16-2007, 10:26 PM

so the heat almost beat boston, coming from 11 down entering the 4th and losing by 1.

At first i was agitated that Boston won, because all this Boston love has been ridiculous. And then I remembered that the Heat lost and all was fine again.

Windmill360 · 11-16-2007, 10:30 PM

Rockets close, but no cookie monster

mary · 11-16-2007, 10:46 PM

Just watching on gameday...but it looks like Durant just hit his first game winning buzzer beater.

dude1394 · 11-17-2007, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Apparently the Suns are kicking the ever-loving crap out of the media darling Bulls tonight.

That's a whole lot better than what I can say for the Spurs tonight, for what it's worth.

Funny...everyone thought that the bulls shouldn't make a kobe trade. But now I'm not sure kobe would want to go there.

Ben Wallace is a waste. When they spent those dollars for him I thought they were doomed.