Would you trade Dirk for Oden?

[Male30Dan]

Originally Posted by Zki41

Reality > Potential

Quite true. But many draft picks are made on potential. Our franchise cornerstone would be a quick example.

[SMC0007]

This thread has unkillable robot legs.

Not knocking on anyones debate and argument skills, just surprised this thread is still burning.

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

This thread has unkillable robot legs.

Not knocking on anyones debate and argument skills, just surprised this thread is still burning.

You can knock on mine because I just like to make jokes (sometimes at the expense of throwing fuel on the fire)

[Dirkadirkastan]

Greg Oden sucks.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by DirkFTW

You can knock on mine because I just like to make jokes (sometimes at the expense of throwing fuel on the fire)

Bah, you are one of the Master Debaters around here.

[dude1394]

Is there any way that you can put a specific thread on ignore? I still cringe when I read that someone actually is proposing this.

[Male30Dan]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Greg Oden sucks.

I would respond to this garbage but for some reason the following picture is jumping into my head:

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Male28Dan

Quite true. But many draft picks are made on potential. Our franchise cornerstone would be a quick example.

It's different from Oden, of course, in that our franchise cornerstone can actually play NBA basketball.

[Male30Dan]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

It's different from Oden, of course, in that our franchise cornerstone can actually play NBA basketball.

Ah, welcome again UL - your bits are classic.

[Male30Dan]

Originally Posted by dude1394

Is there any way that you can put a specific thread on ignore? I still cringe when I read that someone actually is proposing this.

I didn't propose it or support it but it was worth talking about at the time. Potential vs. known happens all the time. We got our PG from a trade just like that. But yeah, looking back at it now, REALLY glad those that did want to do it didn't work for the front office. Really glad.

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by Male28Dan

I would respond to this garbage but for some reason the following picture is jumping into my head:

True, removing a horse cock for easy comparison to Oden's famous one would probably kill the horse.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

"If he wasn't injured. . . "
That's like saying, "If Barea was 6'7"

It's really nothing like that.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

It's really nothing like that.

Barea has midget bones; Oden has brittle bones.

The caveat here is that this is less about Oden's injury and more about his uncanny ability to suffer an injury every other time he plays a basketball game. Both Barea's height and Oden's fragility are intrinsic properties of the players' bodies, hence the reference.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Barea has midget bones; Oden has brittle bones.

The caveat here is that this is less about Oden's injury and more about his uncanny ability to suffer an injury every other time he plays a basketball game. Both Barea's height and Oden's fragility are intrinsic properties of the players' bodies, hence the reference.

That is an extreme reach. The comment, the comparison and the explanation.

Barea is short, he can't and will never be 6'7'', nothing about that is unfortunatly unlucky for him in the same way Greg Odens injuries were.

Oden can and most likely will be healthy. He has obviously had bad luck as a pro but his luck will change and he will be healthy but Barea will never be tall.

[Dirkadirkastan]

Right. Just like McGrady and Yao will definitely return strong in the indefinite future.

The term "injury prone" exists for a reason.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Right. Just like McGrady and Yao will definitely return strong in the indefinite future.

The term "injury prone" exists for a reason.

Different subject, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if this surgery fixes Yao's injury woes just like it did with Big Z. McGrady on the other hand is pretty much finished.

[Murphy3]

Originally Posted by Murphy3

D says 'duh'...as in duh duh duh...my name's duh-Dan and I'd trade duh-Dirk for Oden.

I amuse myself.

[jthig32]

Here's the bottom line (for me): Portland would trade half its roster and their front office would jab hot pokers in theirs eyes if that would allow them to trade Oden for Durant right now. And that has nothing to do with injuries.

Everyone got hung up on the Oden hype, and he was never going to live up to it, injury or not, because he's not as good as people though. He's not offensively skilled enough to be dominant hall of fame big man.

He still has a chance to be a darn nice center, if he can ever stop fouling, and if he can ever stay healthy. But those are big ifs.

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by Male28Dan

Ah, welcome again UL - your bits are classic.

calling someone's bit a bit is a bit of a bit

[Usually Lurkin]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

It's really nothing like that.

Here, let me draw it out for you:
If Oden hadn't injured his knee, then he'd be playing full time and he never would have injured anything else, and he'd be the all-star cornerstone of the perennial contending Portland Trailblazers, just like Bill Duffy told me.

and

If Barea was 6'7 then his court vision would open up and he would drive into the lane able to take advantage of any passing lane, his great and lengthy silver beard flowing behind him. He would be worshipped by the other leprechauns as the one who walks among the humans and showers of stars would shoot out his butt every time he dunked, just like Richard Katz told me.


. . . are really kinda the same thing because they start out with pretty shaky premises

[Five-ofan]

The people who are arguing Odens injuries dont change his value ill ask you this(assuming you are a rangers fan too) Do you still value Brandon McCarthy the same way you did 3 years ago? Because thats what greg oden is, The nbas Brandon Mccarthy(or erick dampier with hands )

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by Five-ofan

The people who are arguing Odens injuries dont change his value ill ask you this(assuming you are a rangers fan too) Do you still value Brandon McCarthy the same way you did 3 years ago? Because thats what greg oden is, The nbas Brandon Mccarthy(or erick dampier with hands )

I feel like Damp is the NBAs equivalent of this guy:

[FINtastic]

Originally Posted by Five-ofan

The people who are arguing Odens injuries dont change his value ill ask you this(assuming you are a rangers fan too) Do you still value Brandon McCarthy the same way you did 3 years ago? Because thats what greg oden is, The nbas Brandon Mccarthy(or erick dampier with hands )

I thought your whole point is that Oden has always sucked and it wasn't cause of injuries that he sucked? I'm getting confused now.

Oden's injuries most certainly do change his value. The last joint you want to see injured in a basketball player is the knees. When those start wearing out, you can say bye-bye to your athletic ability. Maybe Oden can still recover and get back to where he was three years ago, but I'm a little skeptical.

Still doesn't change the fact he was a good player with loads of potential three years ago. He had one wrist injury at that point, but that didn't mean he was injury prone yet.

[sike]

this thread is great?

[FINtastic]

It's so wonderful that we must never let it die.

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by sike

this thread is great?

Hey, I'm just glad this board has TWO threads about a guy who doesn't play for the Mavs (and other than getting injured, hasn't done anything thread-worthy in his entire career).

Although I wonder how people with lives actually have the time to dig through 2 different threads that cover the same topic - isn't that more time-consuming than digging through one big thread?

[MavsX]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

I feel like Damp is the NBAs equivalent of this guy:

lmao

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by MavsX

lmao

"I just have these tiny hands...and the basketball just makes them look tinier"

[jcm28]

I laughed out loud when I read the name of the thread. Its full of fail.

[Male30Dan]

Ah what could have been...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5819493

Hell, this kid could have turned out to be Erick Dampier with better hands if only he had stayed healthy. Now look at things - he can only dream to be Erick Dampier.

[MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs]

Tell me where to sign!

[41mvp]

Are you joking?This thread is stupid!Dirk for Oden wow!!!

[jthig32]

This thread is amazing.

Poor Portland fans. Poor, poor Portland fans.

[Rick41]

Originally Posted by Male29Dan

Ah what could have been...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5819493

Hell, this kid could have turned out to be Erick Dampier with better hands if only he had stayed healthy. Now look at things - he can only dream to be Erick Dampier.

You don't have to make it any more depressing than it really is.

[Male30Dan]

Originally Posted by Rick41

You don't have to make it any more depressing than it really is.

Sarcasm for Mr. 5-0!

[Usually Lurkin]

Poor, poor Portland fans. They gotta be kicking themselves for not trading Oden for Nowitzki when they had the chance.

[MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs]

Originally Posted by Usually Lurkin

Poor, poor Portland fans. They gotta be kicking themselves for not trading Oden for Nowitzki when they had the chance.

Was there really "a chance" or was it just talk anyway?

We would be a yearly lottery team right now if that took place.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Oden's value is low so now is the time to jump on it!

I mean, come on....we're talking about a franchise player for the next ten years once he comes back from injury. TEN YEARS!

MEIN FUHRER! I CAN WALK!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gb0m...eature=related

[41mvp]

He miss all 2010-2011 season.

[ty]

Whoever started this thread needs to be shot.