Official Lebron, Wade, Bosh FA watch thread.

[SMC0007]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

You all realize that Lebron (or any other FA) not signing here doesn't prove that we were "never in the Lebron race," right?

Just checking.

Why?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by SMC0007

Why?

Because. Duh.


(I should let L-Dub defend his own point, but I think my explanation is obviously sufficient...)

[SMC0007]

yeah. I didn't think about that.

[Underdog]

If we don't get a sit-down with LeBron, then we aren't in the race...

If we do, then we are...



EDIT: cue Murph's "thanks, captain obvious!" quip.

[SMC0007]

thx capt obvious

[Kidd Karma]

James does not want Miami. 2 sources, don't know if it's same source, but one came via Chad ford, Wade is leaning to Chicago, having requested a 2nd meeting with Bulls brass today.

Bulls have also proposed a Deng trade for a center than clears cap.

[Kidd Karma]

Deng proposal link:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...ceable_center/

Wade Bulls:

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archiv...r_second_time/

[mac222b]

strange. but i still don't believe in this LeBron/Wade alliance. so Wade is suddenly gonna ride the King's coattails? maybe Bosh would. his releasing a pic of him hugging D-Wade was pretty pathetic. it's like bragging about being invited to hang out with the popular kid in middle school.
could this all mean that: Bosh wants to get paid max and will need a sign and trade
Bron is going to NJ
Amare is going to NY
JJ is re-signing w/ATL
Wade doesn't think Boozer and he can win a championship alone so he's getting out to a better team while he can?

[mac222b]

i think we're seeing the beginning of things shaking out here

[sefant77]

I say after these 2 days:
Wade/Bosh Bulls
James Nets (maybe with Lee or Boozer)

Heat and Knicks the big loser

We use Dust for in a traditional trade

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by sefant77

I say after these 2 days:
Wade/Bosh Bulls
James Nets (maybe with Lee or Boozer)

Heat and Knicks the big loser

We use Dust for in a traditional trade

yup yup. sounds about right dude

[Dirkadirkastan]

Why on God's green earth would Lebron go to the Nets?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Why on God's green earth would Lebron go to the Nets?

Oxycontin? LSD?? Massive head wound???

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

Why on God's green earth would Lebron go to the Nets?

i think it would be a dumb move too. but i wouldn't be surprised if "new york" was his plan all along. with a detour in Newark. they have some talent&assets, cap space and the russian. and avery johnson

[tcat075]

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3268

DONUT 7: Shaquille O’Neal – Want another DB.com Chapter in Shaq’s Dallas Desire?

While Cleveland is thinking that somehow it can ship Shaq to Dallas in a S-n-T (the Mavs aren’t real excited about having to actually give up real assets for a backup center they’d like more as a minimum-wage idea), here’s what Shaq himself is thinking (hat-tip to 75-Member Staffer Wally Lynn:

Dallas.

Or Italy.

Seriously.

Wow. Didn't expect that...

[isile]

Heyas all,

This is my first post, but I was sitting here thinking. As I understand it, the only way we can get lebron is a sign and trade, and cleveland says that is not going to happen. i have read about the MBT and our DUST chip.

What about if we did a sign and trade to get bosh and then trade bosh in some capacity to get lebron? Maybe we sign bosh, Miami signs lebron, then we trade bosh for lebron?

I don't even know if this is possible, or if this idea has even been mentioned, but everything I have read says the raptors are open to a sign and trade.

curious if you all could share your thoughts on this.

thanks

isile

[Dirkadirkastan]

Whoever signs Lebron doesn't trade Lebron, except possibly Cleveland in a prearranged sign-and-trade.

[isile]

I understand your thinking, but what if Miami is presented with the option of losing everything or keeping wade and bosh?

IMHO, Wade isn't going to hang around unless they get bosh or Lebron. If we offer bosh for Lebron (assuming all sides agree to the basics in principle), then Miami gets 2/3 of the pie, and the other piece is moving to another conference. So the NBA finals would be the only potential place they would see him.

IDK, i am sure that every single scenario on the planet has been reviewed by this point, but I still believe that there is a chance for Dallas to swoop in and steal the main prize and I think the 2 main selling points are:

1. we are not in same conference
2. we are already contenders and don't have to gut our team to get someone.

[LonghornDub]

It's certainly not impossible that a team other than Cleveland could sign Lebron for a SnT, if he leverages them correctly.

That being said, the reason you generally assume that the team doing the SnT will be the FA's old team is that his old team can sign him to a higher-dollar contract. Also, psychologically the former team is generally the most likely to agree to a SnT, because if they don't, they will feel like they are "losing" their star player for nothing.

[dirno2000]

Looks like the Knicks got a second meeting with Lebron (or at least his people) last night.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/kni...chance-to.html

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by isile

Heyas all,

This is my first post, but I was sitting here thinking. As I understand it, the only way we can get lebron is a sign and trade, and cleveland says that is not going to happen. i have read about the MBT and our DUST chip.

What about if we did a sign and trade to get bosh and then trade bosh in some capacity to get lebron? Maybe we sign bosh, Miami signs lebron, then we trade bosh for lebron?

I don't even know if this is possible, or if this idea has even been mentioned, but everything I have read says the raptors are open to a sign and trade.

curious if you all could share your thoughts on this.

thanks

isile

You can't sign and trade for a player and then immediately sign and trade that player away. Not to mention Bosh would have to agree to be sent to Cleveland. He already said he doesn't want to play there...even with LeBron. Without LeBron? Not even a chance.

[Dirkadirkastan]

^I hate your signature.

[Dirkenstien]

Originally Posted by dirno2000

Looks like the Knicks got a second meeting with Lebron (or at least his people) last night.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/kni...chance-to.html

If true this is good. The closer Lebron gets to leaving the better chance Dallas has.

[isile]

GuerillaBlack - i was referring to making it like a 3 team trade.

1. Bosh resigns with Raptors then traded to Dallas.
2. Lebron signs with Miami.
3. Dallas trades Bosh for Lebron.

its wishful thinking but I was just trying to think of a way to get him. Like I mentioned previously, I am sure my thought isnt something that someone, somewhere hasnt already suggested and shot down, but I was just curious.

I have always thought something is better then nothing.

[isile]

BTW,

just read this article on espn.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nba...tim&id=5354048

he makes a good point about what dirk did in taking a pay cut.

"It also sends a strong symbolic message to potential stars that might join the Mavs: Dirk's sole goal is to get a ring. The egoless superstar is more than willing to sacrifice to accomplish the only thing missing from his surefire Hall of Fame résumé."

so i will keep all my fingers and toes crossed that a miracle happens =)

[mac222b]

so Wade and LeBron are going to be on their 2nd meetings w/ teams before we get a sit down? i understand what Fish is saying in the articles about protocol and all. but it's getting absurd. maybe they have no intention of meetings w/ us. find it hard to believe Lebron is willing to meet w/ the Clippers and not Mavs. if so he's obviously more concerned w/ markets and image than basketball. who knows if the report of Wade's visit was ever even true. it's entirely possible LeBron has known all along where he's going and is milking the media attention for all it's worth. but guys can sign contracts in a few days. it's getting late in the game to not have heard a peep...

[GuerillaBlack]

Originally Posted by isile

GuerillaBlack - i was referring to making it like a 3 team trade.

1. Bosh resigns with Raptors then traded to Dallas.
2. Lebron signs with Miami.
3. Dallas trades Bosh for Lebron.

its wishful thinking but I was just trying to think of a way to get him. Like I mentioned previously, I am sure my thought isnt something that someone, somewhere hasnt already suggested and shot down, but I was just curious.

I have always thought something is better then nothing.

That's not a three team trade man. It can't work out like that.

[fluid.forty.one]

I really, really, really can't imagine LeBron playing for Avery Johnson. Knicks, Cavs or Mavs.

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

I really, really, really can't imagine LeBron playing for Avery Johnson. Knicks, Cavs or Mavs.

Bulls is more likely than all three of those, I think. And actually? I think LeBron is going to New Jersey. Because of the owner, though, and Jay Z, not Johnson.

[fluid.forty.one]

Originally Posted by tcat075

Bulls is more likely than all three of those, I think. And actually? I think LeBron is going to New Jersey. Because of the owner, though, and Jay Z, not Johnson.

yeah because LeBron is going to completely disregard who is coaching him over the next 5 years....

give me a break. LeBron is NOT going to play for Avery Johnson.

[sefant77]

If James like the Nets he signs there.

And if Avery pisses him off James need to say one word to the owner and Avery is gone..

[BGMaverick9]

Whoops...sucks for the Heat, I'd be pissed if I went to this

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3270

[sike]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Whoops...sucks for the Heat, I'd be pissed if I went to this

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3270

we're having fun, aren't we?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Whoops...sucks for the Heat, I'd be pissed if I went to this

http://www.dallasbasketball.com/fullColumn.php?id=3270

I hope someone is making a documentary of all of this....

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

I hope someone is making a documentary of all of this....

Of the 2010 free agency period? Like those 30 for 30 documentaries...10 years from now if ESPN does 40 for 40 have this as a topic? That'd be actually really cool.

Hopefully, they do one on the NBA referee problems of the 00's, focusing on the 06 Finals. That'd make me at least feel a little better if a documentary ever came out really detailing how the Mavericks almost (and should have) won a title.

[fluid.forty.one]

horseshoes and hand grenades and all that jazz

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

horseshoes and hand grenades and all that jizz

oh, come on man, we don't need to be talking about that.

[twistaeffect2004]

According to sources, LeBron will decide between 3 teams: Cavs, Nets and Bulls.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pr...nal_three.html

[tcat075]

Originally Posted by twistaeffect2004

According to sources, LeBron will decide between 3 teams: Cavs, Nets and Bulls.

http://www.northjersey.com/sports/pr...nal_three.html

Doesn't surprise me. That's the three I had narrowed it down too as well in predicting where he'd go.

[Dirkadirkastan]

The "source" most commonly consulted is the writer's own ass. It's the oldest trick in the book.