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Underdog · 09-01-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

doesnt that entail RC limiting his minutes to 18 per game or something?
no way that happens.

Ah, you're right - I forgot about that part...

Although I'm sure any team we traded him to before the deadline would keep him on the bench.

41mvp · 09-01-2010, 01:12 PM

Crawford is now old topic.We have better topic: Deron Wiliams the best PG in NBA.This is very interesting topic.

fluid.forty.one · 09-01-2010, 01:42 PM

/sigh

Kidd Karma · 09-01-2010, 03:10 PM

http://dimemag.com/2010/08/why-deron...ah-for-dallas/

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Why Deron Williams Will Leave Utah For Dallas
By Andrew Macaluso

Deron Williams (photo. Christian Kozowyck)
There has been speculation from Jazz fans concerning whether or not Deron Williams wants to stay in Utah anymore. After losing teammates Carlos Boozer, Ronnie Brewer, Wes Matthews and Kyle Korver, is there any reason not to believe that Deron would want out? D-Will had an interview with David Locke (the new radio voice for the Jazz) a couple weeks ago, and he stated that he no longer lives in Salt Lake City during the summer months. Is this a sign?
I was in contact with Locke via Twitter about whether or not Deron’s heart is still with the Jazz after losing half of his team this offseason, and he stated that “Jazz fans are concerned about losing Deron, but what have the Jazz done that would make his heart be out of it? If it is, there’s nothing they can do about it.” I think losing four of the best players on his team would cause his heart to be out of it a little bit. Deron’s already stated that he’s frustrated with the way things are going in Utah, and this appears to only exacerbate his case.

In July of 2008, Williams signed a three-year extension (with a fourth-year option) for $70 million to stay with the Jazz and help bring them a title. Well, it’s been two years and there’s still no title. All the Jazz have to show for it is first round playoff exits and going over the luxury tax to bring back the same team back from ‘09, with half of them leaving during free agency this summer. It’s not that Williams couldn’t take the Jazz to a championship; it’s just his supporting cast seems to fall apart at all the wrong times.

If D-Will chooses to opt-out of his contract in 2012, where would he end up? How about following his roots in Dallas to play with the Mavericks. Deron starred at The Colony High School near Dallas, and last year at the NBA All-Star Game in Dallas, that was the happiest Williams has looked in two years. Another thing to consider is that the Mavericks will have substantial cap room in 2012, right when Deron can choose to become a free agent. If Deron ends up in Dallas, he would have a much better supporting cast than with the Jazz.

The Mavericks have one of the best shooting big men in the history of the NBA in Dirk Nowitzki. Don’t get it twisted though – he’s not a choke artist like fans believe. This is a guy who is 7-0 and has averaged 23.0 points and 8.5 rebounds for his career, all on jump shots. But let’s face it; Dirk’s never had a great point guard in his prime during his time in Dallas other than Steve Nash – and he still couldn’t lead the Mavericks to a title. Devin Harris never got the chance to prove, Jason Terry is a shooting guard and Jason Kidd is over the hill. If Dallas ends up with a Dirk and Deron combo, and that’s over 50 wins every season with just those two alone. Then you consider after the Mavs signed Deron they’d have at least $9 million to spend on another free agent in 2012 – Ray Allen, Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan and Antawn Jamison will all be available.

The best part of all is that Deron has the chance to play for the arguably the best owner in basketball, Mark Cuban. Cuban is the kind of guy that will gladly go into luxury tax in pursuit of a title, which he’s done numerous of times. Deron just wants to win, and at this point, he can’t win in Utah. Maybe Chris Bosh was right, it’s time players stop mixing loyalty when it comes to free agency.

sefant77 · 09-01-2010, 07:03 PM

What a shitty article. We will be barely under the cap in 2012 and if Deron likes then to play with 34 year old Dirk and Marion and 33 year old Haywood...dont know.

Rick41 · 09-01-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

What a shitty article. We will be barely under the cap in 2012 and if Deron likes then to play with 34 year old Dirk and Marion and 33 year old Haywood...dont know.

Dirk will still be pwning the league at age 40.

FiZth · 09-02-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

What a shitty article. We will be barely under the cap in 2012 and if Deron likes then to play with 34 year old Dirk and Marion and 33 year old Haywood...dont know.

You got point there

Dallas Mavericks salary 2012/13

Dirk Nowitzki 20,9
Brendan Haywood 8,4
Shawn Marion 8,6
Alexis Ajinca 3,2 (Qualifying Offer)
Rodrique Beabois 2,2 (Team Option)
Dominique Jones 1,3 (Team Option)
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Total: 37,9 millions

It's only 38 million. You have then good starting center Haywood, who is not all about his athletic skills, that he will lose everything he got with age. You got top5 PF in league (Nowitzki), who can still shoot like hell. You got very good defensive specialist Marion (maybe form bench) and you got too great players. One of them, Jones or Beabois will be stud. And one way or another Roddy will be good 3 point shooter and athletic fast break finisher. Williams need somebody like this to play SG position next to him.

But we have this summer Chandler, Butler and Stevenson, all expiring contracts. And I belive Mavericks will sign some 15 million free agent next summer. So only way I see us to get Williams is to trade him this season before trading deadline. 3 team trade with Chandler, Butler and Stevenson should do the trick.

Haywood/Mahinm/Ajinca/somebody from trade
Nowitzki/Thomas
Marion/somebody from trade
Roddy/Jones/Terry
Williams/Kidd/Barea

sefant77 · 09-02-2010, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FiZth

You got point there

Dallas Mavericks salary 2012/13

Dirk Nowitzki 20,9
Brendan Haywood 8,4
Shawn Marion 8,6
Alexis Ajinca 3,2 (Qualifying Offer)
Rodrique Beabois 2,2 (Team Option)
Dominique Jones 1,3 (Team Option)
---
Total: 37,9 millions

It's only 38 million.

Butler and Chandler will be either resigned to contracts running at least 3-4 years or they S&T them. We also will probably try to use the MLE like always since time is running out for the Mavs. So your 2012 salary maths just work if we S&T Butler and Chandler for playerx expiring in 2012 or if both leave next summer as FA to a team with cap. Not very high chances that all this will happen, so forget the 2012 cap space option...

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But we have this summer Chandler, Butler and Stevenson, all expiring contracts. And I belive Mavericks will sign some 15 million free agent next summer. So only way I see us to get Williams is to trade him this season before trading deadline. 3 team trade with Chandler, Butler and Stevenson should do the trick.

We are talking 2012 and next summer is 2011 with a 56 payroll + Butler + Chandler.

fluid.forty.one · 09-02-2010, 03:50 PM

Not to be an asshole but broken english is taking over this site and it's really bugging me.

SMC0007 · 09-02-2010, 03:53 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSI0YjPFPoo

fluid.forty.one · 09-02-2010, 03:58 PM

SMC just doing what he does aka post unfunny videos and pictures and nothing else.

Kante · 09-02-2010, 05:08 PM

Wohoo, we have the best bench accoring to nba.com: http://www.nba.com/2010/news/feature...hes/index.html

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Mavericks. Best. Bench. In basketball. In terms of talent and depth, no other team compares. It all starts with Jason Terry, always in the hunt for Sixth Man of the Year and a scorer (16.6 points) who can get you 30 points. And the drop-off from the Jet isn't steep, when you consider Jose Barea (7.6 points, 3.3 assists) and either Brendan Haywood or Tyson Chandler, whichever big man doesn't start. The Mavericks could pull five from their bench and beat Minnesota's starting five.

sefant77 · 09-02-2010, 05:17 PM

Stopped reading when they named Barea over Roddy.

Kidd Karma · 09-02-2010, 05:48 PM

You can probably put Marion in that bunch too, with Boobs at 2 guard and butler at the 3.

sefant77 · 09-02-2010, 06:02 PM

Roddy wont come back in time, so im pretty sure beginning the season Butler and Marion starting.

Btw we just have 2.5 SF in the roster. I dont think TT is quick enough in these days to defend most of the SF.

Welcome 3 guard lineup if Butler or Marion are injured

Kante · 09-02-2010, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Stopped reading when they named Barea over Roddy.

Plus they forgot TT...

sefant77 · 09-02-2010, 06:22 PM

Spurs...lol

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/loc...102035873.html

Underdog · 09-02-2010, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

SMC just doing what he does aka post unfunny videos and pictures and nothing else.

That used to be my bit, but there's no copyright protection on the internet...

SMC0007 · 09-02-2010, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

SMC just doing what he does aka post unfunny videos and pictures and nothing else.

Fluid you picked a great name. Whay, whay the broken English and the foreigners taking over this site. Sigh, things aren't exactly the way I want them in my forum at all times. Boohoo this all really bugs me and stop posting pictures and videos.

SMC0007 · 09-02-2010, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

That used to be my bit, but there's no copyright protection on the internet...

UD, you are still doing fine.

You and DirkFTW are in my fave 5 posters to read because of the sense of humor, regardless of any bball points. But this doesn't mean I will give you my number.

Rick41 · 09-02-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Not to be an asshole but broken english is taking over this site and it's really bugging me.

No sh!t. It's terrible.

Underdog · 09-02-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

UD, you are still doing fine.

You and DirkFTW are in my fave 5 posters to read because of the sense of humor, regardless of any bball points. But this doesn't mean I will give you my number.

So 41mvp gets more love than I do, huh?

41mvp · 09-03-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

So 41mvp gets more love than I do, huh?

What?Love what you talking about??

Underdog · 09-03-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

What?Love what you talking about??

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13...

SMC0007 · 09-03-2010, 11:19 AM

went to the well pretty quickly on that one...

41mvp · 09-03-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13...

pleas tell me what is Leviticus?

SMC0007 · 09-03-2010, 12:36 PM

google.com

41mvp · 09-03-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

google.com

http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng...c/KjvLevi.html
What is this holy Bible?

Underdog · 09-03-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

http://etext.virginia.edu/toc/modeng...c/KjvLevi.html
What is this holy Bible?

Religion in Poland

There's an 89.8% chance that you're pulling a bit...

41mvp · 09-03-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Religion in Poland

There's an 89.8% chance that you're pulling a bit...

I am Christian.You have problem with this?
Leviticus what is this to hell?This is holy Bible?Tell me.I am from Poland.And I don't understand any English words.Leviticus so this is holy Bible yes or not.

Underdog · 09-03-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

I am Christian.You have problem with this?
Leviticus what is this to hell?This is holy Bible?Tell me.I am from Poland.And I don't understand any English words.Leviticus so this is holy Bible yes or not.

Necronomicon

DevinHarriswillstart · 09-03-2010, 02:14 PM

Just a month til training camp....can't come soon enough.

41mvp · 09-03-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Necronomicon

So Leviticus is a book.I tell you some things your link who send to me is very long and boring if you read this book I can only say congratulates

.
If you like read I give you this:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/My,_dzieci_z_dworca_ZOO
I think this book will be good for you

Underdog · 09-03-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

So Leviticus is a book.I tell you some things your link who send to me is very long and boring if you read this book I can only say congratulates

.
If you like read I give you this:
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/My,_dzieci_z_dworca_ZOO
I think this book will be good for you

We celebrate big time, chief!

(best offseason ever...)

BGMaverick9 · 09-03-2010, 02:39 PM

I don't know if it's been mentioned but former Utah Jazz member, Dee Brown will be invited to training camp. The Jazz selected him with the 25th pick in the 06 Draft.

It's not the Dee Brown who needed to pump it up before taking flight...

Followill mentioned the invite on twitter.

SMC0007 · 09-03-2010, 02:39 PM

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...enis%20Wrinkle

Underdog · 09-03-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

I don't know if it's been mentioned but former Utah Jazz member, Dee Brown will be invited to training camp. The Jazz selected him with the 25th pick in the 06 Draft.

Meh...

That's almost as exciting as finding out who the janitorial staff is for the AAC!