The"Crap, it didn't happen..but it was awesome to think of" thread - Page 72 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

GhostFace · 06-14-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

We're talking about a man who controls his own destiny - I'm sure comfort is a consideration... Traffic between NYC's suburbs and Brooklyn isn't comfortable.

Isn't comfortable? You're being generous. It's down right horrific and the subway isn't much better, but I don't see D-Will using the subway. I really hope this city isn't the reason he chooses to stay.

Two weeks and a day till July 1st? Can't wait!

rabbitproof · 06-14-2012, 09:22 PM

That's such a good point, KK.

Hope Kidd drops that Duncan story to DWill.

Speaking of the greybeard, how fast do we approach Kidd? If Chicago steps to Kidd on day 1 with a 3 year mini MLE type offer, do we match?

BGMaverick9 · 06-14-2012, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

That's such a good point, KK.

Hope Kidd drops that Duncan story to DWill.

Speaking of the greybeard, how fast do we approach Kidd? If Chicago steps to Kidd on day 1 with a 3 year mini MLE type offer, do we match?

They have bigger fish to fry, like Asik
In addition, their MLE isn't going to be the full MLE http://www.shamsports.com/content/pa...ries/bulls.jsp

mavs777 · 06-15-2012, 12:32 AM

kidd makes no sense for chicago, they need scoring help.

OneLove22 · 06-15-2012, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GhostFace

After living here all your life you don't even notice the hassle. It just becomes part of life.

I visited Texas last year and it was great. The weather was amazing and the people were so friendly and helpful. The authentic Mexican food was sooooo good. The only thing I regret not getting a chance to check out was that Texan BBQ I've heard about. I want to say I would prefer to live in Texas, but I don't want it to become like NYC where everything has lost its charm. Then again, what better way to live than capping the day off at a Maverick game?

It never loses its charm.

Murphy3 · 06-15-2012, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dude1394

I may have phrased that incorrectly... Dallas has tons to offer, just as much as any of those cities, except possibly imo NY with the culture there.

And certainly Dallas competes with la/ny.. But IMO you just have to be fooling yourself if those are not more desirable places to live if you are loaded.

Speak for yourself... I absolutely hate New York. I don't like LA all that much either. I have had the pleasure of spending considerable time in both areas either for work or with family. I have alot of family up in NYC and Connecticut. Honestly, I don't ever want to go back to that place. I absolutely loathe that area. As for LA, don't like the people out there all that much. My aunt was in the "industry" for quite awhile. I just didn't like it out there at all.

I guess it helps that I'm not a big fan of the beach. Actually, I love the beach for about an hour or two every couple of years.. but that's more than enough. As for shopping, food and culture, well, I strongly prefer what Texas has to offer compared to LA or NYC. When it comes to the people of LA or NYC versus Texans.. it's not even comparable. I'm about as big of a horses ass as you'll find around here.. I'd be classified as extremely friendly in LA or NYC.

Kidd Karma · 06-15-2012, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

kidd makes no sense for chicago, they need scoring help.

Yea, you lose 20 points in Rose and expend cash to get a non slasher in Kidd. 70-65 scores. Plus I think the defense will take a hit Kidd and Rip as the starting back court? To be honest, for the Bulls, I'd go as is. Resign Asik, hope for the playoffs, but get a lottery pick.. who knows.

BGMaverick9 · 06-15-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Yea, you lose 20 points in Rose and expend cash to get a non slasher in Kidd. 70-65 scores. Plus I think the defense will take a hit Kidd and Rip as the starting back court? To be honest, for the Bulls, I'd go as is. Resign Asik, hope for the playoffs, but get a lottery pick.. who knows.

I'd see if there's a sucker for Boozer, but I'm with you on the main point.

mavs777 · 06-15-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Yea, you lose 20 points in Rose and expend cash to get a non slasher in Kidd. 70-65 scores. Plus I think the defense will take a hit Kidd and Rip as the starting back court? To be honest, for the Bulls, I'd go as is. Resign Asik, hope for the playoffs, but get a lottery pick.. who knows.

Agreed keep the core together, maybe add a volume scorer off the bench on a year 1 deal like crawford, get a pretty decent pick next year, then when miritic comes over amnesty boozer.

mac222b · 06-15-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Yea, you lose 20 points in Rose and expend cash to get a non slasher in Kidd. 70-65 scores. Plus I think the defense will take a hit Kidd and Rip as the starting back court? To be honest, for the Bulls, I'd go as is. Resign Asik, hope for the playoffs, but get a lottery pick.. who knows.

Even w/out Rose the Bulls are a playoff lock.

nodir41 · 06-15-2012, 01:31 PM

I say sign Williams to a long term contract.
Sign Kaman and Jamal Crawford to1 year deals.(if they earn big money they will do it)
resign Kidd...
trade Beaboius and Odom for a "Gerald Wallace guy"

pretty good Team and enough cap for 2013

Kidd Karma · 06-15-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Even w/out Rose the Bulls are a playoff lock.

True, Rose missed 20+ games this season, still got the top spot.

mavs777 · 06-15-2012, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mac222b

Even w/out Rose the Bulls are a playoff lock.

I wouldn't be so sure about that, there is good chance Deng misses a portion of the season and Boozer is only going to regress more.

mac222b · 06-15-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I wouldn't be so sure about that, there is good chance Deng misses a portion of the season and Boozer is only going to regress more.

True, i guess there are alot of other factors in play: Asik, Boozer/amnesty, Deng, PG in free agency.

Kidd Karma · 06-15-2012, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

I wouldn't be so sure about that, there is good chance Deng misses a portion of the season and Boozer is only going to regress more.

And Deng is planning to join the Olympic team, crazy, crazy, crazy.

Quetzalcoatl · 06-16-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nodir41

I say sign Williams to a long term contract.
Sign Kaman and Jamal Crawford to1 year deals.(if they earn big money they will do it)
resign Kidd...
trade Beaboius and Odom for a "Gerald Wallace guy"

pretty good Team and enough cap for 2013

It's also a good plan for me.

mavs777 · 06-17-2012, 11:50 AM

Kaman and Jamal Crawford are terrible; I don't want them anywhere near the mavs.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-17-2012, 12:14 PM

July 1st is exactly two weeks away...

Butterflies...

nowhereman · 06-17-2012, 01:51 PM

Brandon Roy unretiring, and under CBA rules can't play with the Trailblazers until 2014-15. If his knees are back, anyone else down for a Williams/Roy starting backcourt?

KillerLeft · 06-17-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by nowhereman

Brandon Roy unretiring, and under CBA rules can't play with the Trailblazers until 2014-15. If his knees are back, anyone else down for a Williams/Roy starting backcourt?

Roy, reinvented as a spot up jump shooter off the bench to space the floor for the minimum? Yeah, I might be interested.

Roy as a member of the "starting backcourt"? No, not really interested.

BGMaverick9 · 06-17-2012, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerLeft

Roy, reinvented as a spot up jump shooter off the bench to space the floor for the minimum? Yeah, I might be interested.

Roy as a member of the "starting backcourt"? No, not really interested.

I think that the latter is what he would likely have to be, unless they're incredibly creative in the offseason with getting Williams.

I'm not a doctor, but I would think the issue with his knees is eventually going to flare up over time. I think you'd have to seriously consider the option of giving him semi-frequent games off to just play it safe.

KillerLeft · 06-17-2012, 04:10 PM

BG, I take it you don't subscribe to the latest theory that the Mavs' attempt to move Odom's buyout date back a month is for the purpose of acquiring Deron Williams without relinquishing bird rights for Kidd, Terry and Mahinmi?

grndmstr_c · 06-17-2012, 04:20 PM

The odds of Dallas keeping rights on Kidd and/or JET while at the same time landing Deron are probably vanishingly small. Ian's another story, since the cap hold is so small. I'm sure they'll work hard to retain their ability to go over the cap to re-sign him.

BGMaverick9 · 06-17-2012, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerLeft

BG, I take it you don't subscribe to the latest theory that the Mavs' attempt to move Odom's buyout date back a month is for the purpose of acquiring Deron Williams without relinquishing bird rights for Kidd, Terry and Mahinmi?

Not really, no.

mavs777 · 06-17-2012, 10:34 PM

Yeah not worth the risk of counting on roy.

Underdog · 06-17-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerLeft

Roy, reinvented as a spot up jump shooter off the bench to space the floor for the minimum? Yeah, I might be interested.

Roy as a member of the "starting backcourt"? No, not really interested.

Yeah, Roy as a semi-Terry replacement on the cheap & short, otherwise pass...

KillerLeft · 06-18-2012, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BGMaverick9

Not really, no.

That's too bad. I was starting to get excited by DLord's optimism about this.

LonghornDub · 06-18-2012, 02:25 PM

In semi-related news (also semi-related to the JET thread):

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Dwain Price ‏@DwainPrice
Jason Kidd said he would be fine returning to play for the #Mavs with just a one-year contract.

LonghornDub · 06-18-2012, 02:33 PM

Followed by this:

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Stefan Bondy ‏@NYDNInterNets
J Kidd - "My days of playing 38 minutes are over. ...me and Deron can play off each other."

(Of course, that could also to be taken to mean he's considering a return to the Nets. But when you put it with the previous remark, doesn't sound so bad.)

Kidd Karma · 06-18-2012, 02:54 PM

Don't know where this fits in with the previous 2 posts.

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gary washburn‏@GwashNBAGlobe

Jason Kidd said he is definitely look at Brooklyn as a viable option but said he wants to return to the #mavericks

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-18-2012, 03:13 PM

Jason Kidd isn't going to a loser to play for Avery Johnson. Kidd is going to back-up Deron Williams here in Dallas.

Kidd Karma · 06-18-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Jason Kidd isn't going to a loser to play for Avery Johnson. Kidd is going to back-up Deron Williams here in Dallas.

Sounds like he's backing up Deron in Dallas or Brooklyn, it's on Williams. He's done playing 38 a night.

rabbitproof · 06-18-2012, 03:25 PM

One-year contract for Kidd sounds right. I think he just wants to make decent money for his year (not minimum). This shouldn't be a problem since he seems to want to play with Deron so he will need to see Deron make his decision first.

Kidd Karma · 06-18-2012, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbitproof

One-year contract for Kidd sounds right. I think he just wants to make decent money for his year (not minimum). This shouldn't be a problem since he seems to want to play with Deron so he will need to see Deron make his decision first.

Yea, decision first, and then the money details after. Wade went to management and told them he'd take less than the max to fit LBJ and Bosh. So they went hard after both, got their decisions and then hammered out the money details later.

Rick41 · 06-18-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Jason Kidd isn't going to a loser to play for Avery Johnson. Kidd is going to back-up Deron Williams here in Dallas.

Exactly my thoughts. No way in hell Kidd plays for AJ again.

aexchange · 06-18-2012, 04:33 PM

The people on Nets Daily are completely delusional about Kidd playing for Avery again. IF it really is down to Brooklyn or the Mavs, Kidd isn't going to play for Avery ever again.

Period.

The chances of me hooking up with Giselle and Scarlett together are greater than Kidd signing with the Nyets. Kidd either resigns with the Mavs or tries to go to a contender for more than the Vet minimum. He isn't going to sign with a team that reeks of losing like the Nets. They are atrocious, abysmal, and awful.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-18-2012, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kidd Karma

Sounds like he's backing up Deron in Dallas or Brooklyn, it's on Williams. He's done playing 38 a night.

I seriously think it will be a cold day in hell before Kidd plays ANY minutes under Avery again. I guess stranger things have happened, but Kidd is going to be one of the main guys to recruit Deron to come here...not vice versa.

LonghornDub · 06-18-2012, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by aexchange

The people on Nets Daily are completely delusional about Kidd playing for Avery again. IF it really is down to Brooklyn or the Mavs, Kidd isn't going to play for Avery ever again.

Period.

The chances of me hooking up with Giselle and Scarlett together are greater than Kidd signing with the Nyets. Kidd either resigns with the Mavs or tries to go to a contender for more than the Vet minimum. He isn't going to sign with a team that reeks of losing like the Nets. They are atrocious, abysmal, and awful.

I just popped on there to read up on what they're saying. There's a poster or two who gets it. The rest are hilarious.

LonghornDub · 06-19-2012, 10:58 AM

Hard to say how (if at all) this affects anything with Deron, but apparently Ramon Sessions is not going to exercise his player option. So he'll be a FA and come off LA's books.

G-Man · 06-19-2012, 11:05 AM

The problem with keeping Kidd may come down to money. He's a nice piece for any contender, but way more valuable to one who does not have Dwill, like, say Chicago or Miami, that is really weak at point guard.

My fear is that the Mavs have so many needs, and depending on who else becomes available, we won't be able to afford Kidd. Frankly, if we get DWill, I'd much rather spend to keep Jet than Kidd. He's got more left in the tank, is still a great 4th quarter threat to spread the floor, and is more deserving to retire as a Mav.

Is anyone expecting salaries to come down in light of the new CBA, allowing us to get more talent for less cash? The anticipation is killing me.