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Budapest Maverick · 08-03-2021, 04:24 PM

I'd probably throw some money at Oubre at this point. Nice player who had a terrible start last year, should be a good fit next to Luka.

purplefrog · 08-03-2021, 04:24 PM

Lakers pick up Kendrick Nunn. Unbelievable. He must fit under the salary cap rules by being the Lakers Special Mid-Level Exception to be sure they win the Championship. Seriously, how are they paying all these guys???

The Vertical @YahooSportsNBA
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More Lakers moves: - Talen Horton-Tucker has agreed to a 3-year, $32 million deal to stay in LA, per @Adrian Wojnarowski. - Kendrick Nunn has agreed to a 2-year, $10 million deal, per @Shams Charania.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-03-2021, 04:25 PM

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Well, there is always Dennis Schroder.......At least he is German!

lol and everyone's favorite Kelly Oubre! But let's face it, Mavs aren't interested either.

tap2390 · 08-03-2021, 04:25 PM

Mavs absolutely should not give up a 1st round pick or Green/ Terry for Dragic.

I'm going to be in the minority here, but failing to trade for Dragic is not an indictment on the Mavericks based on what I'm reading. Raptors don't want Powell/ WCS and believe they have leverage with Dragic having value on an expiring deal.

The news that Powell is highly thought of in the organization is the Mavs trying to spin this into something it isn't. We won't do this trade because love Powell vs. we can't do this trade.

Dtownsfinest · 08-03-2021, 04:28 PM

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Kendrick Nunn to the Lakers for 2/10. Wow. Just shut it down.

I hate it here.....they got Malik Monk and Nunn for the low...two young talents....like where the hell are they even all gonna play? Now I can sit here and say guys like Derozen don't want to play here but Nunn and Monk don't while getting more playing time?

Dtownsfinest · 08-03-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Lakers pick up Kendrick Nunn. Unbelievable. He must fit under the salary cap rules by being the Lakers Special Mid-Level Exception to be sure they win the Championship. Seriously, how are they paying all these guys???

The Vertical @YahooSportsNBA
4 minutes ago
More Lakers moves: - Talen Horton-Tucker has agreed to a 3-year, $32 million deal to stay in LA, per @Adrian Wojnarowski. - Kendrick Nunn has agreed to a 2-year, $10 million deal, per @Shams Charania.

Haha AND they get to keep THT too? Wow.

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-03-2021, 04:31 PM

Meanwhile we paid 30.5 million for Reggie Bullock who would probably play for free for the Lakers.

Dtownsfinest · 08-03-2021, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Mavs absolutely should not give up a 1st round pick or Green/ Terry for Dragic.

I'm going to be in the minority here, but failing to trade for Dragic is not an indictment on the Mavericks based on what I'm reading. Raptors don't want Powell/ WCS and believe they have leverage with Dragic having value on an expiring deal.

The news that Powell is highly thought of in the organization is the Mavs trying to spin this into something it isn't. We won't do this trade because love Powell vs. we can't do this trade.

Its to the point now to where I'm disappointed if they trade for him. That's where we are at with that.

Dtownsfinest · 08-03-2021, 04:33 PM

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Meanwhile we paid 30.5 million for Reggie Bullock who would probably play for free for the Lakers.

Yeah....

This is my issue with this crap.

IN years past they'd wait out free agency and settle for guys like Reggie Bullock. These morons this time went after Reggie Bullock first like he's some prized free agency acquisition they can't live without.

Robillion · 08-03-2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Mavs absolutely should not give up a 1st round pick or Green/ Terry for Dragic.

I'm going to be in the minority here, but failing to trade for Dragic is not an indictment on the Mavericks based on what I'm reading. Raptors don't want Powell/ WCS and believe they have leverage with Dragic having value on an expiring deal.

The news that Powell is highly thought of in the organization is the Mavs trying to spin this into something it isn't. We won't do this trade because love Powell vs. we can't do this trade.

I am choosing to believe this as the reality.. It is the more nuanced explanation and reality is usually much more nuanced than initial perception (Dwight = Cuban's movie buddy). I think the Mavs have had players that were beloved and had no problem trading/not resigning. Not to mention, Nico is supposedly in charge.

This is the Raptors wanting the best deal they can get.. not wanting Powell or wanting a young piece we aren't willing to give up for Dragic, etc.

I think getting Dragic would be great for this team and Luka.. but I don't think he is worth giving up any real medium-high potential assets for, unless another player gets added into the deal to come to the Mavs.

saclare · 08-03-2021, 04:35 PM

Lol... BPo posts a couple of paragraphs from god knows where and you fools run with it like it came from Cuban's mouth.

Astounding really. You all never cease to amaze.

Dtownsfinest · 08-03-2021, 04:35 PM

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I'm so burned out on being a Mavs fan honestly. Dirk is my all-time favorite athlete and is the only reason I stuck with the Mavs for so long. Cuban is a total beatdown, and while I'm a huge Luka fan, I will seriously be considering how much time I invest in this team. If Kidd can't salvage KP, then it'll be a full season of watching Luka collect stats followed by another early playoff exit.

The Mavs have really become the Cowboys of the NBA, except they do have a superstar... for now.

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I can't even say the Mavs are the Cowboys of the NBA because at least the Cowboys can draft. They can draft star players. They rarely trade their draft picks. Hell they can even trade well.

The Mavs situation is worse because it feels like purgatory. How do you get better when you get 1st rounders every other year and when you do you draft trash and you have no trade bait? This is the worst place to be as a fan.

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

Well, there is always Dennis Schroder.......At least he is German!

Ugh lol. There was a time when I actually liked him. Still do but his salary demands lead me to believe he doesn't understand the caliber of player he is right now.

Dtownsfinest · 08-03-2021, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Lol... BPo posts a couple of paragraphs from god knows where and you fools run with it like it came from Cuban's mouth.

Astounding really. You all never cease to amaze.

Whether its true or not is irrelevant. I Think the frustration is coming from how they are running this team. Its base don the MAvs actions not a article...

JustJay · 08-03-2021, 04:37 PM

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Lol... BPo posts a couple of paragraphs from god knows where and you fools run with it like it came from Cuban's mouth.

Astounding really. You all never cease to amaze.

Yeah you're right we're getting Kawhi, we just have to have faith!

Give me a break, there's optimism and there's stupidity and you are way over that line. No one cares about the Dallas Mavericks except the fans. There's no one left in free agency we failed yet again it's over I was right you're wrong you should apologize.

I'm not even sure why bpo's posts matter in why people are pissed and I really don't even know what you're referencing exactly. There's no one left in free agency for us to get. What don't you get about that?

purplefrog · 08-03-2021, 04:38 PM

"This is my money! Mine, mine, mine..."

DevinHarriswillstart · 08-03-2021, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Lol... BPo posts a couple of paragraphs from god knows where and you fools run with it like it came from Cuban's mouth.

Astounding really. You all never cease to amaze.

You love our boys in blue!

G-Man · 08-03-2021, 04:42 PM

I am not a THJ fan. However if the Mavs had not signed him quickly, someone else would have grabbed him, and we'd be even worse off. I don't think throwing money at either DeRosan or Lowry would have convinced them to come. At least the players we did get fill roles we need filled, and are tradable pieces.

That may have to be the strategy going forward. Assemble tradable pieces and pounce when trades become available. Mavs managed to turn DSJ into THJ and KP. Since players aren't choosing to come, we have to trade when they have no choice.

I don't think Luka is the problem. I think its Dallas. When I worked for a major corporation with offices in NYC, DC, Mia, Chi, LA, ATL and SF, people transferred to Dallas asked for hardship pay.

G-Man · 08-03-2021, 04:42 PM

I do my posts the same way every time, but one out of 4 is a double post, and one yesterday did a quadruple.

tap2390 · 08-03-2021, 04:43 PM

Maybe I'm in denial., but I refuse to believe this is a money thing. The Mavs are probably literally more valuable than they've ever been. Luka is a freak Lebron/Bird/Magic hybrid and will probably be a multiple-MVP winner.

I think (and hope, if we're being honest) that the Mavs are refusing to give up a valuable asset for a player that the Raptors will buy out if they're unable to trade away.

tap2390 · 08-03-2021, 04:43 PM

Maybe I'm in denial., but I refuse to believe this is a money thing. The Mavs are probably literally more valuable than they've ever been. Luka is a freak Lebron/Bird/Magic hybrid and will probably be a multiple-MVP winner.

I think (and hope, if we're being honest) that the Mavs are refusing to give up a valuable asset for a player that the Raptors will buy out if they're unable to trade away.

BPo001 · 08-03-2021, 04:44 PM

I think all I want this season is for the Nets and Lakers to not win the championship.

Stylistic · 08-03-2021, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by G-Man

I am not a THJ fan. However if the Mavs had not signed him quickly, someone else would have grabbed him, and we'd be even worse off. I don't think throwing money at either DeRosan or Lowry would have convinced them to come. At least the players we did get fill roles we need filled, and are tradable pieces.

That may have to be the strategy going forward. Assemble tradable pieces and pounce when trades become available. Mavs managed to turn DSJ into THJ and KP. Since players aren't choosing to come, we have to trade when they have no choice.

I don't think Luka is the problem. I think its Dallas. When I worked for a major corporation with offices in NYC, DC, Mia, Chi, LA, ATL and SF, people transferred to Dallas asked for hardship pay.

Which is weird because if the Cowboys opened up the checkbook, players would I have zero problems playing in Dallas. Why is it different for the Mavs.

BPo001 · 08-03-2021, 04:45 PM

Eliot Clough: Just heard @Kevin O’Connor say on The Mismatch that he heard the #Pelicans offered Tim Hardaway Jr. $90 million… he elected to stay in Dallas for $72 million

BPo001 · 08-03-2021, 04:45 PM

Eliot Clough: Just heard @Kevin O’Connor say on The Mismatch that he heard the #Pelicans offered Tim Hardaway Jr. $90 million… he elected to stay in Dallas for $72 million

JustJay · 08-03-2021, 04:46 PM

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I do my posts the same way every time, but one out of 4 is a double post, and one yesterday did a quadruple.

It's the same for everyone. It seems if you double click submit reply it usually will go to the screen that you posted the same post in the last 5 minutes, and then it won't post a duplicate that usually works but you have to time it right.

BPo001 · 08-03-2021, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Maybe I'm in denial., but I refuse to believe this is a money thing. The Mavs are probably literally more valuable than they've ever been. Luka is a freak Lebron/Bird/Magic hybrid and will probably be a multiple-MVP winner.

I think (and hope, if we're being honest) that the Mavs are refusing to give up a valuable asset for a player that the Raptors will buy out if they're unable to trade away.

And yet players would rather go play with a 36 year old Lebron

JustJay · 08-03-2021, 04:48 PM

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Which is weird because if the Cowboys opened up the checkbook, players would I have zero problems playing in Dallas. Why is it different for the Mavs.

Dallas Cowboys are the richest organization in all of sports in the entire world. The Mavs are nothing compared to them besides, Jerry usually makes his good players the highest paid player at their positions in the league and no big free agents since T.O.

turin · 08-03-2021, 04:48 PM

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Its to the point now to where I'm disappointed if they trade for him. That's where we are at with that.

Agree. JJ Reddick 2.0.

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JustJay · 08-03-2021, 04:52 PM

I think Dragic is still better than JJ Reddick and would love to trade Powell for him. But if they want additional assets, then I understand why there's a hold up.

BPo001 · 08-03-2021, 04:52 PM

Adrian Wojnarowski: Free agent guard Kendrick Nunn has agreed to a two-year deal with the Los Angeles Lakers, source tells ESPN. Deal includes a player option. Nunn turned down significantly more money to chase a title with the Lakers.

Guys at the end of the Lakers bench are going to be better than some teams starters.

JustJay · 08-03-2021, 04:54 PM

Can't wait for the TV show "Who wants to be a Los Angeles Laker" where 50 players get narrowed down to 15, or however many are supposed to be allowed on the roster.

purplefrog · 08-03-2021, 04:57 PM

Maybe the Mavs should make an offer to............ I don't know someone.

G-Man · 08-03-2021, 04:57 PM

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Which is weird because if the Cowboys opened up the checkbook, players would I have zero problems playing in Dallas. Why is it different for the Mavs.

The Cowboys are among the most popular and most valuable teams in all of sports. When they are on TV, ratings skyrocket, because for decades, they were the only NFL team south of St Louis. That meant they were on TV every week in ATL, NO, and every mid-sized southern city. When they play in PHX now, Cowboys fans almost outnumber the home team. That's why Troy, Moose and Romo are all on the top football broadcasting teams. They have a storied history. All that trumps the Dallas disadvantage.

SMC0007 · 08-03-2021, 04:59 PM

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I don't understand the assumption that if we prioritized Demar Derozan, he would have come here. Maybe players just don't want to be in Texas.

Plenty of players that don't want to be in Texas.

Dirk
Duncan
Parker
Ginobli
McGrady
Harden
Kidd
Tyson
Marion
Jet
Timmy
Bullock
Dragic
Markkannen

So on and so forth

EricaLubarsky · 08-03-2021, 05:01 PM

I F€£%#ing hate the Lakers

SMC0007 · 08-03-2021, 05:05 PM

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I think all I want this season is for the Nets and Lakers to not win the championship.

Pretty much.

EricaLubarsky · 08-03-2021, 05:06 PM

THJ turned down 88 to Hornets for our 74

tap2390 · 08-03-2021, 05:06 PM

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And yet players would rather go play with a 36 year old Lebron

Destination has a lot to do with this. No one wanted to play with Lebron his first stint in Cleveland.

JustJay · 08-03-2021, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Plenty of players that don't want to be in Texas.

Dirk
Duncan
Parker
Ginobli
McGrady
Harden
Kidd
Tyson
Marion
Jet
Timmy
Bullock
Dragic
Markkannen

So on and so forth

That's a weird list but I've decided not to get into my reasons that I disagree with it other than most of the players on that list are from a decade ago and I meant players today. I have others reasons but I'm going to not mention them.

SMC0007 · 08-03-2021, 05:07 PM

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Can't wait for the TV show "Who wants to be a Los Angeles Laker" where 50 players get narrowed down to 15, or however many are supposed to be allowed on the roster.

And They get a yellow rose and league minimum