05-14-2017, 09:21 AM
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Look who comes up as the #1 search result... You'd think Melania or Pence, but nope!
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05-14-2017, 11:54 AM
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Yeah, his ego lured him... As the leader of the free world, everyone is out to get him. If he's not smart enough to avoid an obvious trap, then he's not fit to lead.
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Trump will be in Hamburg in some weeks. Going to be fun. They will be visiting the Elbphilharmonie. Fändästik
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05-14-2017, 12:16 PM
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Damn G20, waste of money and all those poor cops...
Why not in a damn bavarian village near the alps...
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05-14-2017, 12:22 PM
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Damn G20, waste of money and all those poor cops...
Why not in a damn bavarian village near the alps...
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Again 300 Million. Thank god we are the richest nation on earth
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05-15-2017, 08:37 PM
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Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador
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Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”
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So do we wait until America is irreversibly fucked before we impeach this idiot, or are conservatives finally going to put this country ahead of their party?
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05-15-2017, 09:16 PM
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05-16-2017, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Underdog
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Donald gave the answer allready
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Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
Crooked Hillary Clinton and her team "were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information." Not fit!
08:12 - 6 Jul 2016
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05-16-2017, 11:45 AM
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When the USA joins Russia to fight ISIS, why not sharing intel about those bastards ?
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05-16-2017, 12:41 PM
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The president and his/her people can by definition share whatever they want. If they share it, it becomes declassified. I find the whole discussion to be poorly framed. Generally you don't want to flippantly spill state secrets to the Russians, but there are legitimate reasons why we'd want to share info. A president probably wants to let the CIA and NSA know before it happens and Trump probably should have asked for advice about what should and shouldn't be shared to protect the informants and spies that brought us the info, but the biggest issue isn't that he shared the info.
As I see it there are bigger issues here:
1) The dishonesty from the White house. Honesty is a premium commodity, but when the White house lies about something as minor as this, it makes you wonder. White house comes out and denies that Trump shared the information less than 24 hours before Trump comes out and admits it.
2) The disorganization of the White house. It seems like a total mess. People don't like each other and aren't working together in the biggest office in the land during a time of crisis. A couple of days ago, Trump invited the Russians, spilled secrets, denied US press coverage, but wasn't even aware that the Russian state media was there taking pictures? They find out when the Russian state media posts the pictures from inside the Whitehouse on Twittter? They lie and said it's not true before eventually admitting that the Russians took the pictures and posted them on social media. It makes you wonder how competent they even are.
3) The right-wing media which has continued to parrot White house talking points. A media that parrots government talking points without scrutiny is basically a state media source no different from RT in Russia and cannot be considered an independent media outlet. It's truly embarrassing when the mainstream media reports that the leaks happened. The White house says they didn't. The right wing media repeats the White house talking point -- and then the president confirms that it actually did. Truly embarrassing for the crooked/lazy media who just call Trump and ask what to publish.
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05-16-2017, 02:02 PM
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Why would we share information with Russia that we wouldn't share with Great Britain, especially pertaining to ISIS?
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05-16-2017, 05:23 PM
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Well the info apparently was from Israel. Israel now "boiling mad". May have exposed their agents operating all over the middle east.
All it takes is Russia sharing that info with their buddy-in-the-region Iran or one of those Middle Eastern countries discovering one of the uncovered agents in their midst and we have a full-on international crisis on our hands.
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05-16-2017, 06:10 PM
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Forget emails, this is worse than Benghazi... Hell, I'd argue it's actually way worse than Bush/Obama's wars in the Middle East -- this is an assault on America directly just to make the billionaires of this country richer.
Honestly, Trump should be in front of a firing squad for this shit... If a Democrat was doing this, they'd already have a couple assassination attempts on their hands. But Republicans will happily sell out this country just as long as he keeps attacking every liberal institution in this country -- something that Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes refused to do because they saw value in these ideas (hell, Nixon even started the EPA).
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05-16-2017, 06:14 PM
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Trump supporters are all hiding now because there really is no defense to this stuff. Even on FB, I nary read any comments loving the guy. They'll trash liberals and still blame Obama, but the Trump love has faded.
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05-16-2017, 06:24 PM
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Trump supporters are all hiding now because there really is no defense to this stuff. Even on FB, I nary read any comments loving the guy. They'll trash liberals and still blame Obama, but the Trump love has faded.
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Yeah, their go-to move is to slam Obama or Hillary, but you never see them actually trying to DEFEND Trump anymore (although the best defense is a good offense, I suppose).
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05-16-2017, 06:33 PM
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*irony on*
Maybe they all died allready because they lost their Obamacare...
*irony off*
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05-16-2017, 07:07 PM
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05-16-2017, 07:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Underdog
Yeah, their go-to move is to slam Obama or Hillary, but you never see them actually trying to DEFEND Trump anymore (although the best defense is a good offense, I suppose).
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Worked for the Rockets, Nellie Mavs, and mid aught Suns
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05-16-2017, 11:26 PM
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05-17-2017, 07:30 PM
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05-17-2017, 08:24 PM
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The Trump presidency feels like the ultimate candid camera hoax... Like, when is Ashton Kutcher gonna come out and say, "you've been Punk'd, America!"
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05-17-2017, 10:00 PM
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Fallon lost the right to make fun of Trump when he had him on the show during the General election and treated him like he was just some famous guy. Made him into Uncle Donald for at least some segment of hipsters that like Fallon's youtube.
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05-17-2017, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by spreedom
Fallon lost the right to make fun of Trump when he had him on the show during the General election and treated him like he was just some famous guy. Made him into Uncle Donald for at least some segment of hipsters that like Fallon's youtube.
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Fallon has always sucked, didn't need Trump to prove that... I have no idea how that guy got his own show, he's 100% pure weaksauce.
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05-19-2017, 11:50 AM
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05-19-2017, 01:53 PM
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05-20-2017, 04:52 AM
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If you know of a news service that doesn't operate this way, please provide the link.
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05-20-2017, 06:41 AM
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Fox News isnt a news service, its a propaganda channel
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05-20-2017, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
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Fox News isnt a news service, its a propaganda channel
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No doubt. One of the best. Is there one that isn't?
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05-22-2017, 08:40 PM
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05-22-2017, 08:56 PM
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This is getting out of hand. Donald is not going to do the full term
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05-23-2017, 09:27 AM
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No doubt. One of the best. Is there one that isn't?
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yes... every single one other than Fox and MSNBC.
Fox's single biggest achievement was convincing weak-minded gullible people that the press has been biased (and the enemy of the people) all along.
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05-23-2017, 01:26 PM
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He meant cuts, like with a sword.
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05-23-2017, 01:43 PM
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Maybe there is hope after 10+ million Trump voters lose their Obamacare and realize that the "replacement" is a huge pile of shit and 100 times worse than Obamacare with some flaws
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05-23-2017, 02:52 PM
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It's almost as if we as a country need to get it together and actually provide at least one good candidate for people to vote for. Two equally competent and qualified options would be even better so we can actually use our vote to vote for policies instead of voting for the one person who isn't an utter and complete dumpster fire.
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05-24-2017, 05:32 AM
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yes... every single one other than Fox and MSNBC.
Fox's single biggest achievement was convincing weak-minded gullible people that the press has been biased (and the enemy of the people) all along.
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Every single one? Obviously no. CCTV? Name one.
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05-24-2017, 05:40 AM
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This is getting out of hand. Donald is not going to do the full term
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He's like wtf? I won? Let's pick a fight with the intelligence services. Who's coming with me, man? Jan?
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05-24-2017, 12:04 PM
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He's like wtf? I won? Let's pick a fight with the intelligence services. Who's coming with me, man? Jan?
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Wat ?
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05-24-2017, 06:20 PM
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Jeff Sessions also lied about meeting with Russian officials during the campaign. DOJ statement apparently forthcoming.
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05-24-2017, 06:37 PM
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