Official Rangers Thread part 3. Doc, quit being an ass. - Page 9 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 01:37 PM

MLB TRADE UPDATE FROM JAYSON STARK
The A's have been told they don't have the bullets to land Soriano. Marlins-Tigers-Washington 3-way looks like it's on life support. Another team was told by Bowden he has two deals he can do right now on Soriano _ one with an NL team (Astros?), one with an AL team (Twins?). And on Tejada, I was told there's only a 5 percent chance of that deal going down now.

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 01:43 PM

I'm beginning to think we're done.

It's probably not fair to JD, with his unexpected aquisition of Lee, but if we are done, I'm going to be a bit disappointed. I don't see us taking the division with our current pitching staff.

It certainly won't be from lack of effort though.

Just211 · 07-31-2006, 02:00 PM

I think he unload Barajas no matter what, even prospects. It's time to give the job to laird, and Rods a FA.
And I think he'll try his hardest to move Wilk also.
They might not get a pitcher for now, but I have a feeling JD just wants to get rid of them for something NOW.
And I'm sure he's very disappointed the Bal/Hous deal fell apart. Eventually he has to trade hank if he's gonna keep throwing his name out there

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 02:07 PM

I think Hank gets traded this offseason.

I don't think he's trying to dump Wilk. Now is really not the time to trade Wilk. This is pretty much the low point of his career. You'd have to think once he gets his shoulder fixed, he'll come back stronger.

ocelot_ark · 07-31-2006, 02:10 PM

I've never been a big barajas fan, so I'm PRAYING we deal him with another piece for a solid rotation guy.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:15 PM

Tons of trade rumors on ESPN right now....the last minute push is always the most fun.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:40 PM

The Rangers just traded Joselo Diaz to the Royals for Matt Stairs.

wth?

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 02:41 PM

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The Rangers just traded Joselo Diaz to the Royals for Matt Stairs.

wth?

i really dont understand this deal unless we are about to unload some of our bats

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 02:43 PM

Nothing wrong with Stairs. Nice professional hitter, make a good DH.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:43 PM

I'm guessing Barajas and Wilkerson are going to be moved?

No idea what this trade brings otherwise.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:44 PM

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Nothing wrong with Stairs. Nice professional hitter, make a good DH.

He was a hired gun a few years ago....his talent drained in Oakland. He has very little in his bag at this point and strikes out too much. A few years ago this is a good deal, today not so much.

Just211 · 07-31-2006, 02:45 PM

looks like maybe Wilks replacement,
Stairs = Wilk
Ojeda = Barajas

you think this means Wilk & Barajas = Lidge

or possibly someone else.

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Drbio

He was a hired gun a few years ago....his talent drained in Oakland. He has very little in his bag at this point and strikes out too much. A few years ago this is a good deal, today not so much.

especially with the multitude of bats that we have. we are already struggling to give our guys consistant ABs. if barajas, wilkerson, or someone along those lines isnt moved ill be disappointed by this move.

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 02:47 PM

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He was a hired gun a few years ago....his talent drained in Oakland. He has very little in his bag at this point and strikes out too much. A few years ago this is a good deal, today not so much.

He has a .350 OBP. I have zero problem giving up a nothing prospect for him.

I will admit, since he's a leftie, he does seem to duplicate Wilk somewhat. If he was a righty it would make a lot more sense.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:48 PM

FOX is reporting that we just got KIP FREAKING WELLS!!!!!

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:48 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/5832938

Rangers get Wells!!!!

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 02:50 PM

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FOX is reporting that we just got KIP FREAKING WELLS!!!!!

Kip Wells is 1-5 with a 6.69 era in the NL...how is this an upgrade

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:51 PM

He plays for the most woeful defense in the league. He will be fine.

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 02:53 PM

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He plays for the most woeful defense in the league. He will be fine.

a woeful defense doesnt really hurt ones ERA. ive never seen this guy pitch so i dont know much about him but the left handed johns have put up better numbers than this guy in our league. we better not have given up anyone on our major league roster for him.

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 02:53 PM

LOL. Doc, your Baylor blood is showing.

Kip Wells...blech.

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 02:54 PM

BTW, back to Stairs. If nothing else he can be a quality bat on the bench. Right now we have a shortage of those.

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 02:57 PM

The combination of Stairs and Wells makes me think we gave up Wilkerson for Wells. If we did, I will be very upset.

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 02:58 PM

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The combination of Stairs and Wells makes me think we gave up Wilkerson for Wells. If we did, I will be very upset.

i think id have to agree with that. wilkerson is clearly playing through pain

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 02:59 PM

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The combination of Stairs and Wells makes me think we gave up Wilkerson for Wells. If we did, I will be very upset.

Yeah because we will miss all those strikeouts.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

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LOL. Doc, your Baylor blood is showing.

Kip Wells...stud!!!!.

And I am proud of it.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

The more I think about Stairs the more I like it if Buck will actually use him.

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 03:00 PM

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Yeah because we will miss all those strikeouts.

Strikeouts are just outs. We will miss his year he puts up next year, if my guess is correct.

BTW, Wells has been pretty decent in July. But jeez. Average pitchers going from the NL to the AL. Is he really going to be better thah Koronka/Rhino?

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 03:01 PM

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And I am proud of it.

Now that's just low....

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 03:01 PM

Re: Wells....

Per TR's blog - for minor league reliever Jesse Chavez 2-5, 4.42

http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/

ocelot_ark · 07-31-2006, 03:01 PM

Underwhelmed after names like Lidge, Oswalt, Tejada have been thrown around.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 03:02 PM

Here are Wells starts....and he improves as he gets over his injury. You have to like it.

7/28 SF W 3-0 7.0 5 0 0 0 3 3 11 6 27 98
7/22 @Fla L 0-5 5.2 10 3 3 0 3 2 10 7 30 108
7/17 Col W 3-1 7.0 7 1 1 1 2 4 11 6 29 100
7/5 @NYM L 0-5 6.0 4 5 5 0 3 3 11 5 25 99
6/30 Det L 6-7 2.1 6 7 7 2 0 2 4 4 14 64
6/25 @LAD L 4-7 5.0 9 5 5 0 2 0 10 6 25 74
6/20 @KC L 6-10 3.1 5 6 6 0 5 2 9 0 18 81

he has a 1.83 over his last 3 starts

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 03:02 PM

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Strikeouts are just outs. We will miss his year he puts up next year, if my guess is correct.

BTW, Wells has been pretty decent in July. But jeez. Average pitchers going from the NL to the AL. Is he really going to be better thah Koronka/Rhino?

my point exactly. is it worth giving up a player on your major league roster to not even upgrade your staff. ive looked up his stats, hes had some solid years and is coming off an injury so he could come back strong

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 03:03 PM

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The more I think about Stairs the more I like it if Buck will actually use him.

C'mon, doesn't he look like a Buck guy?

Stairs will be nice to have to platoon at DH and pinch hit. Wait, maybe that's what you meant. The Rangers don't pinch hit.

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 03:03 PM

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Re: Wells....

Per TR's blog - for minor league reliever Jesse Chavez

http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/

solid move than. cant knock jd for that

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 03:03 PM

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Re: Wells....

Per TR's blog - for minor league reliever Jesse Chavez

http://trsullivan.mlblogs.com/

Ok, that's fine. Nothing for an average pitcher.

theunheardxvoice · 07-31-2006, 03:04 PM

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C'mon, doesn't he look like a Buck guy?

Stairs will be nice to have to platoon at DH and pinch hit. Wait, maybe that's what you meant. The Rangers don't pinch hit.

who would you actually pinch hit stairs for in our lineup. id rather have anyone else at the plate besides cruz or hairston

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 03:06 PM

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who would you actually pinch hit stairs for in our lineup. id rather have anyone else at the plate besides cruz or hairston

Stairs is a really nice hitter against righties.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 03:07 PM

This just freaking made my day. Woo Hoo!!!!

wells is 1-1 with a 1.83 ERA in 3 starts since the AS Break, and he has a 3.16 ERA in 4 starts in July

jthig32 · 07-31-2006, 03:11 PM

I'm bummed we didn't trade Barajas, assuming there isn't something left we haven't heard of.

I guess we can still trade him after he clears waivers, which he's sure to do.

Drbio · 07-31-2006, 03:13 PM

Not so fast....the trades will be announced for the next hour or so as they filter through the league office. Barajas may have been dealt and we dont know it yet.