Mavs get Parsons!!!

[Twenty4sevenn]

Originally Posted by sefant77

And i think thats exactly the reason why Cuban did this nightclub signing with posting pictures etc. And Parsons agreed to be part of it because...well 46m reasons but also looks like he is ready to move on. Guess he didnt like the way Morey negociated with him..

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/7277/c...cks-free-pass/

That's funny that they compared Parsons to Lin. Parsons, who's progressed significantly over his 3 seasons in the league to Lin, who played 2 months of good basketball prior to Morey throwing a sack of cash at him. Only Houston fans (and their FO obviously) thought that Lin would be more than a flash-in-the-pan.

[Zaknaf3in]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

Let's kidnap him. Plenty of places in Brazil for him to get "lost".

Going to watch the world cup final, surely?
That'd be Sunday night.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by sefant77

And i think thats exactly the reason why Cuban did this nightclub signing with posting pictures etc. And Parsons agreed to be part of it because...well 46m reasons but also looks like he is ready to move on. Guess he didnt like the way Morey negociated with him..

http://rockets.clutchfans.net/7277/c...cks-free-pass/

Man, they really are bitter over there. And their consensus seems like Morey isn't going to match which is somewhat encouraging.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

Let's kidnap him. Plenty of places in Brazil for him to get "lost".

done

[DirkFTW]

Originally Posted by Twenty4sevenn

That's funny that they compared Parsons to Lin. Parsons, who's progressed significantly over his 3 seasons in the league to Lin, who played 2 months of good basketball prior to Morey throwing a sack of cash at him. Only Houston fans (and their FO obviously) thought that Lin would be more than a flash-in-the-pan.

Not just that, but I don't recall Lin demanding lots of money. I don't think it's the player's fault the team overpaid unless they demanded the contract... I guess Lin could theoretically have told them "I'm not that good, so I'm only signing if you pay me significantly less money."

I think the article would make more sense if it was focused on the Rockets management no longer getting a free pass...

[hayth.james.g]

It takes every bit of self control not to bash the Rockets fans sometimes. I know I am walking into a Lions den, but when I see things like this:

You guys are funny...that is still 8th seed. Assuming chandler has similar production to last year...they are still 8th seed.

They gain parsons lose Marion and or Carter is a slight improvement
The lose at PG with felton and Hariss from Calderon
They lose at Center with a healthy rim protector in dalembert for an often injured Chandler.
Dirk is a year older


I think they would have been better off keeping marion carter and getting stephenson for elite DEF and scoring. They could then move Monta to the point.

All in all if we get bosh I would happily be the 1st or 2nd seed and face the mavericks in the first round the next 3 years.

Seriously.. I mean I like to think I have a general level head even as a "biased" Mavs fan. Tyson Chandlers injury history is a question mark. We had real success last time, but we still have to keep our fingers crossed. Other than that.. these guys are on that crack pipe.

And just to be THAT guy.. I am going to answer his points IN OUR FORUM.

1. First.. we haven't lost Carter yet. And if we do its pretty much assumed we will get Mo Williams.
2. Harris+Mo > having Calderon on our team. He is just too big of a liability on the defensive side paired with Monte and the metrics show it.
3. For real? Dalembert was TERRRRRIBADDD 3/4 of the season. Chandler is a huge game changer in our locker room and assuming we get 65+ games out of him he BY HIMSELF increases our wins 4-5 next year.
4. Dirk is a year older? thats why your team offered a max contract right? Thats why you guys are still talking about trading for him if we suck. His game is MADE for longevity.

[sefant77]

James to Cavs, Parsons gone...move on to Deng/Ariza at sunday

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by sefant77

James to Cavs, Parsons gone...move on to Deng/Ariza at sunday

Is this your prediction?

[Underdog]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Is this your prediction?

[sefant77]

Bosh told he goes to Houston if James leaves and sources told the Rockets would match Parsons if Bosh comes to create a contender

[hayth.james.g]

Deng/Ariza.. psh.. STEPHENSON HERE WE COME!

[Underdog]

@Jonathan_Feigen: I've been told that Morey did not have a done deal for Lin and was still talking to several teams. Remained confident he can make the moves.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

Deng/Ariza.. psh.. STEPHENSON HERE WE COME!

Maybe this means we have an extra 3 million or so to toss at somebody?
Deng for 13. Trade Wright clears 5m+. Offer Gasol 8.5?

[hayth.james.g]

Originally Posted by Underdog

@Jonathan_Feigen: I've been told that Morey did not have a done deal for Lin and was still talking to several teams. Remained confident he can make the moves.

They still have picks to offer correct?

[j0Shi]

Ok, so Bosh to Houston and matching Parsons is now the likeliest outcome.

Next: Deng/Ariza/Stephenson?

At least it's moving now.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by j0Shi

Ok, so Bosh to Houston and matching Parsons is now the likeliest outcome.

Next: Deng/Ariza/Stephenson?

At least it's moving now.

Wonder if we're competing with Miami for any of those guys. they suddenly have alot of cap room

[Underdog]

@ESPNSteinLine: Source close to situation says Rockets believe they will have commitment "soon" for Chris Bosh to come to Houston

[LionDallas]

Bad news.

Bosh and Parsons - Houston

So, we need to try Lance and Ariza or Deng. And move Ellis to PG, in my opinion.

[Underdog]

‏@ZachLowe_NBA: Re: Bosh/HOU: Several league sources say Pelicans considering waiving A. Rivers via stretch provision to complete Asik trade.

@ZachLowe_NBA: That's just one of many routes the two teams could take. But NOP hasn't found taker for Rivers yet in trade talks, sources say.

[j0Shi]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Wonder if we're competing with Miami for any of those guys. they suddenly have alot of cap room

Miami is screwed. They have no team and no shot at a superstar (-Wade). We are the more logical and attractive destination.

We only need a solid SF to be a contender.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by mac222b

Wonder if we're competing with Miami for any of those guys. they suddenly have alot of cap room

They also just have broken down Wade and he will be looking to get his money back. Welcome to lottery.

[stoble]

Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

Deng/Ariza.. psh.. STEPHENSON HERE WE COME!

Yes, I hope this is the plan.

[Jack.Kerr]

So many things I don't understand.

1) Never understood why Houston didn't push to develop an Asik-Howard frontcourt.

2) Never understood why they didn't go harder after Rondo.

3)Never understood the appeal of Bosh to the Rockets. He's an underachiever at best, and showing signs of being washed up.

4) Don't understand why they (Rox) re-sign Parsons after taking on Bosh. They'll have no quality depth, no ability to get any. Is Harden-Parsons-Bosh-Howard enough to contend, without a PG, and without any depth? And with Kevin McHale as HC? I am not sure at all.

5) Don't understand why Cuban wastes time in these frat-boy poker games. Maybe he'll target legitimate acquisitions now?

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

3)Never understood the appeal of Bosh to the Rockets. He's an underachiever at best, and showing signs of being washed up.

4) Don't understand why they (Rox) re-sign Parsons after taking on Bosh. They'll have no quality depth, no ability to get any. Is Harden-Parsons-Bosh-Howard enough to contend, without a PG, and without any depth? And with Kevin McHale as HC? I am not sure at all.

Disagree strongly with #3. Bosh is far from an underachiever.

Agree even more strongly with #4. Houston will have a loaded starting lineup, but glaring holes at PG, head coach, and bench. Sincerely doubt they could beat the Spurs (just to name one) in a playoff series.

[LonghornDub]

Woj says the Rockets will match:

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 2m
Houston and Chris Bosh moving quickly on securing deal, and with Bosh, Rockets will match Chandler Parsons offer sheet, source tells Yahoo.

[j0Shi]

@wojbomb: Houston and Chris Bosh moving quickly on securing deal, and with Bosh, Rockets will match Chandler Parsons offer sheet, source tells Yahoo.

Move on people.

[tap2390]

Lance Stephenson or bust!

I'm not interested in paying either Ariza or Deng.

[rabbitproof]

This sucks.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by Jack.Kerr

So many things I don't understand.

1) Never understood why Houston didn't push to develop an Asik-Howard frontcourt.

2) Never understood why they didn't go harder after Rondo.

3)Never understood the appeal of Bosh to the Rockets. He's an underachiever at best, and showing signs of being washed up.

4) Don't understand why they (Rox) re-sign Parsons after taking on Bosh. They'll have no quality depth, no ability to get any. Is Harden-Parsons-Bosh-Howard enough to contend, without a PG, and without any depth? And with Kevin McHale as HC? I am not sure at all.

5) Don't understand why Cuban wastes time in these frat-boy poker games. Maybe he'll target legitimate acquisitions now?

Not entirely fair to characterize as it as frat boy poker games. They no doubt knew there was a very good chance of it being matched. The nature of the contract severely hamstrings Houston's flexibility going forward. They also have to deal picks and maybe even young depth(T. Jones?) to dump Lin and Asik.

I agree with you about Bosh looking washed up. I think Simmons described him best as looking more and more like late career Sam Perkins

[scorched03]

so now houston HAS to trade lin and asik to get deals done.

again, i'm sooo sooo confused why any other owner would let houston get a super team assembled. they would miss out on revenue and glory for their own team and basically help houston big time taking either one of those guys.

houston is also dealing for a position of weakness; everyone should know taking lin/asik is a MUST get done by Sunday.

If I were another gm, i'd totally rake houston with multiple picks and beverly/jones for either one of those guys. it makes way too much sense. that or just dont respond to houston until an hour before parsons deal just to see how desperate they get

[G-Man]

So with the offer sheet, we are stuck waiting until Sunday night before Houston will make signing Parsons official.

We'd need one of the other top SF to agree to wait with us. But there is always the possibility that Houston can't pull off all the trades it needs in time, or is even just bluffing. So would one of them want to take a chance at missing out on big money and ending up like Monta did last year, forced to settle for far less money.

All I know is its going to be an interesting 2 1/2 days. Cuban swung for the fences, going for the guy with the best future and the best fit. Will he strike out?

[jamaljasonandjimmy]

offer ariza $9 mil per year, chalmers $5 mil per year, and birdman $1.5 per year

[DirkFTW]

[LonghornDub]

Originally Posted by G-Man

So with the offer sheet, we are stuck waiting until Sunday night before Houston will make signing Parsons official.

They're "stuck," but they will also have a very good idea of whether Houston will match based on the moves Houston makes. Houston won't be able to hide what they're gonna do. The Mavs can negotiate and get contingent agreements with Deng/Ariza/whoever in the meantime. Not that big of a deal.

[mac222b]

I'll be happy with Deng or Ariza or even Stephenson honestly. All are good players and should allow us more depth. I'm assuming we get any of them for at least a couple million less to start than Parsons deal, Parsons being a full five years younger.

[hayth.james.g]

Originally Posted by mac222b

I'll be happy with Deng or Ariza or even Stephenson honestly. All are good players and should allow us more depth. I'm assuming we get any of them for at least a couple million less to start than Parsons deal, Parsons being a full five years younger.

Stephenson is my hope. Younger, higher ceiling with some character issues. Let Dirk, Chandler, and Carlisle mold this guy. Crunch time lineup of Monte, Stephenson, Carter, Dirk, Chandler. C'mon Man.

[scorched03]

every other gm should wait until sunday. else its bogus

if the rockets have first picks, even 2nds, beverely, and anything outside the harden/howard/bosh, every other gm isn't doing their job !

it'd be next few yrs for houston
C: Dho, min
PF: Bosh, min
SF: if they match, parsons, min
SG: harden, min
PG: min, min

then no firsts and seconds. just min free agents to help out similar to what heat did.

[dude1394]

Originally Posted by LonghornDub

They're "stuck," but they will also have a very good idea of whether Houston will match based on the moves Houston makes. Houston won't be able to hide what they're gonna do. The Mavs can negotiate and get contingent agreements with Deng/Ariza/whoever in the meantime. Not that big of a deal.

Why is that? Houston probably will either sign bosh to a slightly less than max and match parsons. This could be done at the drop of a hat assuming Lin and asik are gone which I would expect they will be.

[gmoney411]

Originally Posted by scorched03

so now houston HAS to trade lin and asik to get deals done.

again, i'm sooo sooo confused why any other owner would let houston get a super team assembled. they would miss out on revenue and glory for their own team and basically help houston big time taking either one of those guys.

houston is also dealing for a position of weakness; everyone should know taking lin/asik is a MUST get done by Sunday.

If I were another gm, i'd totally rake houston with multiple picks and beverly/jones for either one of those guys. it makes way too much sense. that or just dont respond to houston until an hour before parsons deal just to see how desperate they get

The Asik deal is already agreed to so NO can't back out without losing all future credibility. Moving Lin to a team like the Bucks or 6ers shouldn't be too hard because they can throw in the Pelicans pick to sweeten the deal. If you are the 6ers or Bucks you take that before the other team does and you don't care about helping Houston because you are years away from competing.

[mac222b]

Originally Posted by hayth.james.g

Stephenson is my hope. Younger, higher ceiling with some character issues. Let Dirk, Chandler, and Carlisle mold this guy. Crunch time lineup of Monte, Stephenson, Carter, Dirk, Chandler. C'mon Man.

I'm torn. Love the rebounding and ability to create off the dribble the Lance brings. But Ariza is probably the better defender(right now)and superior floor spacer with his ability from 3. Deng is the great locker room intangibles guy.

Still leaning Ariza. Then dump Wright sign Gasol, VC and Mo, minimum big like Jason Smith and call it a successful offseason.