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Just a thought.. Cuban needs to shut the hell up. He's the owner and not the coach. The freaking idiot needs to stick to counting his money and filming his stupid TV show..
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I wish Dirk would call out Cubans lack of energy and effort on giving him a legitimate supporting cast, which apparently happens once every ten years too.
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I love Cuban but.... WOW. Thats all I can say. Glad Dirk took it in stride because if it was anyone else, it could have potentially gotten a little ugly.
And also Melonhead, THANKS FOR THE LINK!!! That's awesome. Ive been waiting for someone to make something like that. I actually have stuff to do right now but they're gonna have to wait 34 mins. Last edited by Jproxursoxoff; 03-18-2014 at 10:56 AM. |
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I don't think this will impact what Dirk does in the off season.. He'll probably just laugh at it or shrug it off.. but that's an absolute idiotic thing for an owner to say. Cuban needs to shut up and write the checks.
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Cuban and Dirk have the type of relationship where they can talk to each other like this. Definitely odd timing though. Maybe he was having a few too many St. Patricks day refreshments.
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What more does Dirk have to do?
By Zac Crain Special to ESPN.com "Oh, come on, Dirk!" The heckle came early in the first quarter during a Mavericks home game against the New Orleans Pelicans. I've heard that sentence, or a close facsimile of it, on many occasions since Dirk Nowitzki came to Dallas from Germany in 1999. But this instance stood out. Nowitzki had just ... honestly, I’m not sure what he did. Missed a jumper? Let his man score? It was so insignificant it doesn’t really matter. That’s not the point. It stood out for two reasons. First, it was further evidence that even after all Nowitzki has done for basketball in Dallas -- rescued it from one of the worst decades by any single team in the long history of the league, for a start -- he still hasn’t earned unconditional love from Mavericks fans. The second reason it stood out, the more important one? It happened in the first quarter of the Mavericks’ first preseason game of the year. I've been thinking about that moment a lot as this season has progressed, as Nowitzki has recaptured the All-Star form that momentarily vanished last season. During an injury-plagued 2012-13 season, Nowitzki captained a travel team from the Island of Misfit Toys -- and even then he still almost willed the Mavs to a 13th straight trip to the playoffs. Nowitzki’s at a stage of his career when most felt like he would be reduced to a complementary piece. Yet here he is, maybe not better than ever, but not far off, still capable of turning a half of basketball into a game of H-O-R-S-E with those wrong-foot fadeaway jumpers delivered from barely plausible angles. When he’s on, as he often is, his shot looks as it always has, like someone who’s never watched a basketball game stuck a Dirk Fathead on the wall in the dark. Forget about this season. Step back from the wall so you can take in the entire painting. Nowitzki is a first-ballot Hall of Famer, and his No. 41 will be in the rafters of the American Airlines Center shortly after he stops wearing it. He will finish his career somewhere in the top 10 on the NBA’s all-time scoring list, likely nestled between Moses Malone and Shaquille O’Neal. He’s already, without question, the best European player in league history and in the conversation for its best foreign-born player. He’s won an NBA title and an MVP trophy and is one of the few players that can be identified by silhouette alone. He’s like a 7-foot Jerry West. But still: “Oh, come on, Dirk!” You hear it in bars and at games, impatiently spat out after any slight or even perceived miscue. Mavericks fans are reduced to the type of youth basketball coach you don’t want your kid to play for. This is what more than 26,000 points, an MVP trophy and a championship ring get you. It’s not that Mavericks fans dislike Nowitzki. But I do believe -- apart from the team’s improbable run to the 2011 title -- they’ve rarely fully appreciated him. On the streets and inside the locker room, our TrueCities series brings the mood and soul of the NBA city to you. Nowitzki doesn’t have the lightning-bolt athleticism that inspires awe. He dunks so rarely in games, each one is singled out. And he’s not the kind of charge-taking, floor-slapping player that fans rally behind; he’s white but he’s European, so he’s robbed of all the stereotypical grittiness of a Brian Cardinal type. He’s sort of the BMW of athletes: nothing flashy, just precise German engineering. Mid-range jumpers don't sell sneakers or jerseys or just about anything else. But it’s not all Nowitzki. You have to take the longer view here, too. After the Mavericks set the template for building an expansion team into a perennial contender in the 1980s, the team spent the next decade in the doldrums, bottoming out when they won 11 and 13 games in back-to-back seasons (1992-93, and 1993-94). The franchise’s trio of supposed saviors -- Jamal Mashburn, Jim Jackson and Jason Kidd -- managed only to bring the soap-opera atmosphere of "Dallas" to the hardwood. When Nowitzki finally arrived at the end of the decade, struggling mightily through his first season, he was seen as just another tall white guy who would let everyone down, and Mavs fans had seen enough of those -- Cherokee Parks, Eric Montross, Chris Anstey. It hurt even more that the Mavs’ pratfall into becoming veterans of the lottery process coincided with the Dallas Cowboys’ return to America’s Team status. A generation of potential Mavs fans became front-running mercenaries, repping for the Bulls or Lakers or anyone other than the hometown team. Even though (under Mark Cuban) the Mavericks were reborn as a first-class organization, the seeds planted during the 1990s continue to sprout. I remember, a few years ago, a spirited “M! V! P!” chant breaking out during a Mavs-Lakers game at the AAC, spreading all across the arena. It was for Kobe Bryant. Nowitzki already had his own MVP trophy at that point, but he picked it up a few days after the 67-win Mavs were bounced out of the playoffs in the 2007 first round by the eighth-seeded Golden State Warriors. This came a year after the Mavs folded against the Miami Heat in the 2006 NBA Finals. Three series before the Mavericks’ first title, in 2011, a double-digit fourth-quarter collapse against the Trail Blazers was seen as evidence that Nowitzki just couldn’t get it done. Nowitzki is Mavericks basketball. But Dallas' lone NBA star still doesn't bask in rarefied air. Mostly they just didn’t pay enough attention. They forgot about him after 2007, their already fragile trust doomed by two disastrous postseason finishes. Dallas sees itself as a city of winners, even when that isn’t true, and Dirk didn’t seem to conform. They didn’t realize he was building himself into one while they debated Cowboys draft picks and minor roster moves. Even after Nowitzki proved himself worthy of induction into the pantheon of Dallas sports, he didn’t have time to enjoy it. The lockout happened, the Mavs’ front office started gearing up for free agents that never materialized, and Nowitzki hurt his knee, leading to his first extended absence. And now, after spending the bulk of his career as the avatar of a franchise that was very good but never great, he’s the face of a team pre-loaded with frustration, occasionally very good but never living up to what might have been had, say, Chris Paul or Dwight Howard come to town. And so: “Oh, come on, Dirk!” He’ll be gone one day -- maybe in a season or two, maybe three if we’re lucky. I hope the Mavericks figure out a succession plan by then, and continue on a path of perpetual respectability. But if I’m being honest, I have something else in mind: I want them to be terrible for a little bit after Nowitzki retires. Just for a season. Just so everyone who doubted the singularity of his talent, who heckled him during preseason games, who didn’t realize that gods shoot mid-range jumpers, too -- just so all of them know exactly what they’re missing. And what they had all along.
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I've been to many bars, venues, and games and never or rarely hear anyone call out Dirk to do better. He gets the utmost respect...at least in Dallas. This article is off.
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 I wouldn't be surprised if there were more Dirk fans than Mavs fans...
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Seriously what a bogus article. Only reason I became a mavs fan in 2002 was because of dirk. I've never heard basketball fans in general knock dirk. They may not appreciate him like we do, but it isn't close to what he's exaggerating
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It took 2011 for Mavs fans to properly appreciate Dirk. But, I do think they now appreciate him like he is a legend of the game...one of the all time greats..
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That article seems like it was written in 2010 (aside, obviously, from the references to the 2011 title). Once that title happened, Dirk has been universally accepted as the generational superstar that he is. The arguments I used to have with co-workers just don't happen anymore.
Now, does everyone TRULY appreciate what he is? Probably not. I would imagine the average fan doesn't realize Dirk could easily be the best player the Mavs EVER have. Like, they could go a hundred years and not have a player equal Dirk. But I think Dirk has established himself as a legend in this town. He's on the Modano/Staubach level. That article came off and very tone deaf and forced.
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I don't think anyone cares but Dirk has never led the league in any major categories in any season (I think he's been a leader in advanced stat like PER or win share but that's it). He has been 2nd in the league in free throw % once, and this year, he is on pace to finish 2nd again. He had been 1st most of the year after Ryan Anderson and JJ Reddick were out for the season so they would not qualify, but recently got overtaken but a guy named Brian Roberts (who?) from NOP. He is at 94% so has a sizable lead over the 90% Dirk. Only way he would not finish first is if he doesn't qualify to be a league leader. The qualifier is 125 ftm and he's at 114. He just needs 11 with 9 games left to go. I think it's a pretty safe bet he'll win it because he's getting major playing time with Holiday out. It just sums up the whole mavs season. They would have a double digit lead for 3.5 quarters and eventually lose the game, while the teams fighting for the 7/8th spot always find a way to come back and win those games when they are down with 5 mins to go.
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In case anyone missed Dirk on Conan last night...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN27...ature=youtu.be
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http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=268&f...o=MS_155998637 "Nominate | Report Posted: Today 8:03 PM Dirk: Yahoo! Article & Awesome Story of Dirk Was reading an article from Yahoo! About Dirk and his upcoming FA. Mostly stuff rehashed from other articles. sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-bal...-221906520.html Was reading the user comments and came across this awesome story of Dirk. By Andy: Dirk is not someone that just talks about being apart of the community, he really is out there to make DFW a better place... My cousin's niece was in Children's hospital here in Dallas for 3-4 months towards the end of 2012 waiting for a "match" for a new heart, it is something she had been dealing with since birth. Dirk came and visited her in the hospital and the two really hit it off - not long after Dirk came and visited her, she received a match for a new heart - Dirk sent prayers her way and checked to make sure everything went okay with the operation... (Side note - her birthday was just two days before the transplant)... This season, my cousin received tickets to a mavericks game and the little girl and her family were able to go with her - somehow Dirk was notified that she was going to be there and he made it a point that they come and visit him in the locker room after the game... Dirk not only spent an hour after the game (in a losing effort) with her and the family, but he took pictures and he just hung out with them - the best part of the story was Dirk remembered her, it happened to be around the same time as her birthday and he actually said "You're turning 8 in a couple weeks aren't you? Isn't it December 22nd?" (He was exactly right)... Dirk is a super star basketball player that has changed the power forward position forever, but he's also an immaculate person that is a terrific role model for kids to look up to! Obviously, he's a team first guy too, because he could request making $24 mil a year and making the franchise suffer, but he wants another ring before his run ends! All class! Seriously, Dirk is an amazing amazing individual. You can't explain how great he is to Dallas and the Mavericks & to the NBA. Last edited Today 8:04 PM by HEYWOODjablomi "
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Is Dirk Nowitzki Somehow Getting Better?
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Like fine wine.
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Erica, time for you to change where Shaq falls. He should not be in an "unlikely" category at this point.
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