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Amarelooms · 07-06-2019, 11:03 PM

The years and amount?

purplefrog · 07-06-2019, 11:12 PM

42 mins ago – via Twitter townbrad
Mark Cuban told us tonight that Mavs’ free agency is essentially done, barring an opportunistic” situation. But I’m told that one such situation, an offer sheet to restricted free agent Delon Wright, remains in play.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-07-2019, 01:05 AM

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Skin's was so bad that I'd be shocked if he wasn't on the hot seat...esp after their little scandal.

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I do and I’ve tweeted as such. But Mavs are still in a very good position, fans don’t have to act like moody petulant little 8th grade girls going though puberty that don’t get their way - the negativity over a team in such a great position is pathetic. These people deserve Dolan

Jeff "Thin Skin" Wade henceforth.

BPo001 · 07-07-2019, 02:03 AM

I see us helping Westbrook find his way to Miami. Maybe we take Dragic?

FreshJive · 07-07-2019, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

He did get the max. Just not the supermax with 5 years. We could not have offered more.

They could have offered more (specifically year 5) we could not have.

Mavs offered nothing. You knew what I meant.

mac222b · 07-07-2019, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

I see us helping Westbrook find his way to Miami. Maybe we take Dragic?

Miami would have to really want Westbrook and, again, Dragic alone wouldn’t be enough. Ideally OKC can’t find a trade for Russ, Adams or Roberson and we pick up Gallo for cheap. He’s really good and we can flip him at the deadline like NO did Mirotic and Gallo is way better. We could save them a ton in luxury tax. Imagining there will be other teams after him too though.

Underdog · 07-07-2019, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by turin

Nothing personal Underdog, but it just doesn't work like that with people who think they are smarter than everybody else.

Nothing personal taken, I see it the same way... When I repost tweets, I don’t always agree with them — I’m usually just moving the conversation forward.

turin · 07-07-2019, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Nothing personal taken, I see it the same way... When I repost tweets, I don’t always agree with them — I’m usually just moving the conversation forward.

I know. That was just a little bit of sarcasm on my part that didn't convey well.

turin · 07-07-2019, 06:38 AM

Last little thought... does this mean the Mavs have no interest in resigning Burke? If we're going to bring back last year's team to the degree we have, why wouldn't we bring back one of the more interesting players who contributed more than his fair share of productivity, especially since Barea won't be available for quite a while, and please don't tell me it's a "fit" issue.

Dtownsfinest · 07-07-2019, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by turin

Last little thought... does this mean the Mavs have no interest in resigning Burke? If we're going to bring back last year's team to the degree we have, why wouldn't we bring back one of the more interesting players who contributed more than his fair share of productivity, especially since Barea won't be available for quite a while, and please don't tell me it's a "fit" issue.

I do not understand the lack of love Burke gets. I would’ve signed him before all of these guys.

Dtownsfinest · 07-07-2019, 06:47 AM

I wonder do the Mavs plan on tanking this year since they actually keep their pick?

Five-ofan · 07-07-2019, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I wonder do the Mavs plan on tanking this year since they actually keep their pick?

I actually wouldn't mind it and hope for one more big asset.

turin · 07-07-2019, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

I actually wouldn't mind it and hope for one more big asset.

I won't be wasting my time watching the Mavericks this season if they decide to tank as a result of their FO being caught asleep at the wheel during FA.

turin · 07-07-2019, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dtownsfinest

I do not understand the lack of love Burke gets. I would’ve signed him before all of these guys.

I'm right there with ya.

Zeus · 07-07-2019, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by turin

I won't be wasting my time watching the Mavericks this season if they decide to tank as a result of their FO being caught asleep at the wheel during FA.

It was pretty clear that Luka was miserable the second half of last year after the Mavs dumped their fairly competitive roster to prep for the 2019 FA market (LMAO) so I dont want to see Luka's reaction if we go plan tank again this year.

Murphy3 · 07-07-2019, 09:11 AM

Yeah, I don’t think you tank with Luka and KP.. KP has already gotten pissed off enough to want out of one city. Let’s not make it 2.

purplefrog · 07-07-2019, 09:20 AM

In the latest Cuban interview, he makes it sound like, for the most part, all is going as planned. I wonder if he thinks the current roster will be competitive and that Luka/KP is enough to contend for a playoff spot. Damage control or sincerity?

https://www.mavs.com/mavs-owner-mark...ks-on-twitter/

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-07-2019, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

In the latest Cuban interview, he makes it sound like, for the most part, all is going as planned. I wonder if he thinks the current roster will be competitive and that Luka/KP is enough to contend for a playoff spot. Damage control or sincerity?

https://www.mavs.com/mavs-owner-mark...ks-on-twitter/

I've defended Cuban in some dark times, but I just can't believe what he did yesterday. We all know twitter is a shit show, but there are plenty of normal fans on there. And most rational fans think FA has been a failure. So instead of just owning it, he goes off on the fans. Never thought I'd see that.

See, if the FO had just tried on day 1 and failed, we'd all eventually be cool with that. You try, you fail. Instead, they tried for like two guys, Kemba and Green and some ridiculous trade nobody wanted. Cuban even said there was only one guy they wanted that they didn't get. That's just simply shocking.

Asleep at the wheel and delusional.

Bryan_Wilson · 07-07-2019, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

In the latest Cuban interview, he makes it sound like, for the most part, all is going as planned. I wonder if he thinks the current roster will be competitive and that Luka/KP is enough to contend for a playoff spot. Damage control or sincerity?

https://www.mavs.com/mavs-owner-mark...ks-on-twitter/

To me it's damage control. Or at least it better be. Because if he thinks that resigning a bunch of guys who just won 8 out of their final 29 or 30 games after moving DAJ Wes and Barnes is going according to plan we are fucked. Oh right we signed a rotation player and KP is healthy so that makes it all better. For those keeping score those role players managed to help us to a win rate of 27% after the trades. We are all excited for KP and Luka but they needed help in the form of better starters. Keeping our guys as role players is fine but keeping them in these expanded roles and expecting a drastic change is delusional. These aren't guys like Pascal Siakim who are 23 and entering their 3rd year. Most these guys are 28 and have been playing here or Europe for some time, they are what they are for the most part. If the goal is to be competitive in the playoffs then they are essentially hoping that the same cast plus KP and Luka's growth can up that win total of 27% to what... 55% at the bare minimum(45 wins)? Quite literally doubling the win rate by just one player. And the West clearly got tougher.

Honestly Cuban needs to own this instead of deflecting. Nobody forced him to make the statement about this is when I go to work or whatever. Not for a moment do I think we dumped Barnes and cleared cap space this off season to sign one bench player and resign our own guys who we already had rights on anyway.

endtroducing MASKED · 07-07-2019, 11:31 AM

The Bucks signed Giannis older brother. We can release Kostas and stop wasting the roster spot any time now

turin · 07-07-2019, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by purplefrog

In the latest Cuban interview, he makes it sound like, for the most part, all is going as planned. I wonder if he thinks the current roster will be competitive and that Luka/KP is enough to contend for a playoff spot. Damage control or sincerity?

https://www.mavs.com/mavs-owner-mark...ks-on-twitter/

It's a combination of CYA and prayer. Does our Dynamic Duo have enough talent to cover his ass, and will it all come together to do so? That'll depend upon Carlisle working more than a little magic with a younger roster. Let's see if Rick is as good with a younger roster as he is with an older one. I hope so, and so better Cuban. :-O

Edit: After hearing Cuban's defense, my gut reaction is to hope that the team fails miserably, so he's exposed, and I hate Cuban for making me react that way about the Mavs. In all honesty though, if it weren't for Dirk, I'd have been done with the Mavs many years ago, and that's pretty much all because of Cuban. SSDD :-(

turin · 07-07-2019, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

To me it's damage control. Or at least it better be. Because if he thinks that resigning a bunch of guys who just won 8 out of their final 29 or 30 games after moving DAJ Wes and Barnes is going according to plan we are fucked. Oh right we signed a rotation player and KP is healthy so that makes it all better. For those keeping score those role players managed to help us to a win rate of 27% after the trades. We are all excited for KP and Luka but they needed help in the form of better starters. Keeping our guys as role players is fine but keeping them in these expanded roles and expecting a drastic change is delusional. These aren't guys like Pascal Siakim who are 23 and entering their 3rd year. Most these guys are 28 and have been playing here or Europe for some time, they are what they are for the most part. If the goal is to be competitive in the playoffs then they are essentially hoping that the same cast plus KP and Luka's growth can up that win total of 27% to what... 55% at the bare minimum(45 wins)? Quite literally doubling the win rate by just one player. And the West clearly got tougher.

Honestly Cuban needs to own this instead of deflecting. Nobody forced him to make the statement about this is when I go to work or whatever. Not for a moment do I think we dumped Barnes and cleared cap space this off season to sign one bench player and resign our own guys who we already had rights on anyway.

One word: EGO

turin · 07-07-2019, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Bryan_Wilson

Honestly Cuban needs to own this instead of deflecting. Nobody forced him to make the statement about this is when I go to work or whatever. Not for a moment do I think we dumped Barnes and cleared cap space this off season to sign one bench player and resign our own guys who we already had rights on anyway.

This is so dead on point that I'm getting depressed again.

turin · 07-07-2019, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED

The Bucks signed Giannis older brother. We can release Kostas and stop wasting the roster spot any time now

LOL, it's so funny to read that because I was thinking something in a similar vein. It would be so much easier for the Bucks to just sign Kostas than for the Mavs to sign Giannis.

Bucks: Check
Mavs: ummm, we didn't consider that option

SSDD LOL

rimrocker · 07-07-2019, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by turin

This is so dead on point that I'm getting depressed again.

Lets see how this thing plays out. They were able to turn Wes, DSJ and DJ into KP so I'm thinking they can turn this into some thing positive.

Just trying to talk you off the ledge

rimrocker · 07-07-2019, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by endtroducing MASKED

The Bucks signed Giannis older brother. We can release Kostas and stop wasting the roster spot any time now

Yeah, Kosta hasn't looked good at all in SL.

They need to give up on that project, notion, strategy or whatever it is they are trying to do with him.

turin · 07-07-2019, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

Lets see how this thing plays out. They were able to turn Wes, DSJ and DJ into KP so I'm thinking they can turn this into some thing positive.

Just trying to talk you off the ledge

I appreciate the effort. I just don't see any other teams whose franchise player is ready to bolt atm due to a difficult owner and FO ineptitude. No, the Mavs are not there....yet.

I hope the Mavs pray to the basketball gods every day and thank them for DSJ's triple double that night in MSG. That really was lightning in a bottle. Don't waste it guys.

EricaLubarsky · 07-07-2019, 01:28 PM

Any dreams of Giannis are deluded IMO

Dude may be the next Dirk. I honestly think he will retire a Buck.

Thespiralgoeson · 07-07-2019, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Any dreams of Giannis are deluded IMO

Dude may be the next Dirk. I honestly think he will retire a Buck.

I agree. He doesn't seem like the type that cares at all for a bigger market or whatever. The only way he leaves Milwaukee is if things go very, very badly there, and I don't see it happening anytime soon.

AO41 · 07-07-2019, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Any dreams of Giannis are deluded IMO

Dude may be the next Dirk. I honestly think he will retire a Buck.

I said this from the start so those that keep dreaming about 2021 are not making too much sense to me.

SMC0007 · 07-07-2019, 02:41 PM

Giannis is an epic waste of time and hope. It's odd that people are quick to say he is a Bucks lifer and yet Luka wont be for the Mavs. I'm not even remotely hopeful about getting Giannis like whatsoever and I'm not worried about losing Luka.

sefant77 · 07-07-2019, 02:45 PM

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I said this from the start so those that keep dreaming about 2021 are not making too much sense to me.

2021 isnt just Giannis, its also guys like Beal or Gobert. Its a similar strong FA period like this year.

Thats why its smart to be careful with handing out roleplayer contract that influences the 2021 cap space. Not because "we have a shot at Giannis".

And the 15th roster spot for Kostas doesnt hurt anyone. He still has solid potential to become a 3rd string player. So its not even a pure tampering/pipedream move to keep him.

rimrocker · 07-07-2019, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

2021 isnt just Giannis, its also guys like Beal or Gobert. Its a similar strong FA period like this year.

Thats why its smart to be careful with handing out roleplayer contract that influences the 2021 cap space. Not because "we have a shot at Giannis".

And the 15th roster spot for Kostas doesnt hurt anyone. He still has solid potential to become a 3rd string player. So its not even a pure tampering/pipedream move to keep him.

I'm not sure if you got a chance to watch Kostas in SL yet but he looked absolutely horrible. He was completely lost on both ends in both games.
If we are patient enough, maybe, but he isn't showing much so far.

Reaves and Roby seem to have the most upside from what I've seen so far.

Five-ofan · 07-07-2019, 03:03 PM

The raptors have to deal Lowry now right? If so I'm all in on him. He's the perfect pg to play with luka. All world defender, good shooter, great passer, doesn't mind deferring.

rimrocker · 07-07-2019, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

The raptors have to deal Lowry now right? If so I'm all in on him. He's the perfect pg to play with luka. All world defender, good shooter, great passer, doesn't mind deferring.

That isn't a bad idea as long as we wouldn't have to give up Brunson to do it.
If they'd do it for THJ/Lee/2nd Rounder I'd do it but I don't see them having any interest.

rimrocker · 07-07-2019, 03:16 PM

I'm wondering what it would take to get Tristan Thompson.
Seems like the perfect blue collar guy to help preserve KP.

Would Lee/Jackson/2nd Rounder get it done?

sefant77 · 07-07-2019, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rimrocker

I'm not sure if you got a chance to watch Kostas in SL yet but he looked absolutely horrible. He was completely lost on both ends in both games.
If we are patient enough, maybe, but he isn't showing much so far.

Reaves and Roby seem to have the most upside from what I've seen so far.

Can you name the players who were #14 or#15 on our roster in the past years? Probably no one can because thats how "important" are these roster spots.

sefant77 · 07-07-2019, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Five-ofan

The raptors have to deal Lowry now right? If so I'm all in on him. He's the perfect pg to play with luka. All world defender, good shooter, great passer, doesn't mind deferring.

They are not trading him, he is now pretty much a hero in canada. East is trash, they still make the playoffs around Lowry, Siakam and Gasol.

rimrocker · 07-07-2019, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by sefant77

Can you name the players who were #14 or#15 on our roster in the past years? Probably no one can because thats how "important" are these roster spots.

It depends on what their plans are for Kostas.
If he is merely a pawn to help lure the Greek Freak here then I'd say we are wasting our time with him. He is still extremely raw and I'm not seeing much upside. Luka and KP will have more to do with attracting the Greek Freak than his brother.
I'd rather have patience with guys like Reaves and Roby who actually have some skills we could eventually use.

thewizard · 07-07-2019, 03:43 PM

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