06-30-2015, 10:14 AM
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Are we prohibited from adding a "no trade" clause for him?...I think you may have to have a certain amount of tenure with one team to even be eligable for a clause such as that.
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure that to qualify for a no-trade clause, a player has to be in the league for at least 8 years and with his current team for at least 4, though I don't think those 4 years have to be consecutive.
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06-30-2015, 11:50 AM
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06-30-2015, 11:51 AM
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Advantage Mavs when it comes to money.
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06-30-2015, 03:37 PM
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More pick and rolls, #2 option here? Welcome to Big D......Big D.
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06-30-2015, 01:00 PM
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SportsCenter @SportsCenter 33 Min.Vor 33 Minuten
DeAndre Jordan, seeking a 4-year deal, may be done in Lob City. http://es.pn/1LT6BCH
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06-30-2015, 02:02 PM
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Reading less & less about a Jordan-Chandler sign-and-trade... Looks like Ty is talking to Milwaukee, other teams -- still hopeful he can return to the Mavs.
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06-30-2015, 06:15 PM
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Seriously why would DJ even look at the run down kobe lakers? Byron Scott as coach is still spare. Mavs have a better track record compared to them the last 3 seasons. Even if they try to make space. There is no real plan in that stinking franchise. Hence when they tried that crap a couple years ago failing horribly.
Mavs franchise have a better coaching staff. Parsons who will be good and ready. Dirk of course who has at least 2 years to be serviceable offensively. The added space we'll have in the coming years to build around DJ. It all makes sense for him to sign here.
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06-30-2015, 07:05 PM
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@ramonashelburne: Clippers still "hopeful" that they'll keep DeAndre Jordan, but I'm told if he were to leave for Mavs, they'll try to S&T for Tyson Chandler
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06-30-2015, 07:25 PM
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@ramonashelburne: Clippers still "hopeful" that they'll keep DeAndre Jordan, but I'm told if he were to leave for Mavs, they'll try to S&T for Tyson Chandler
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Thanks Ramona...never thought in a million years it would be a Tyson S&T.
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06-30-2015, 08:02 PM
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That could actually make sense. Paul and Tyson have played together before. So there is some familiarity. But is there a way we can assemble a 3 way trade in getting a PG too? Eric Bledsoe is on the trading block. He would be a good fit now that Monta is gone.
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06-30-2015, 08:16 PM
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But then again it would be funny to say nah clippers on a sign and trade. While Jordan signs with Dallas flat out. Letting Tyson get more money somewhere else.
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06-30-2015, 08:21 PM
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I dont get why mavs do it unless they can unload cap room or get a pick or if theyre doing some kind of favor to tyson????
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06-30-2015, 09:30 PM
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I dont get why mavs do it unless they can unload cap room or get a pick or if theyre doing some kind of favor to tyson????
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I'm fairly certain the Mavs would do it solely as a favor to Tyson.
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06-30-2015, 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by LonghornDub
I'm fairly certain the Mavs would do it solely as a favor to Tyson.
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Right, but they'll probably be able to dump Felton in the process. Win-win.
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06-30-2015, 10:23 PM
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Do the Mavs have Tyson's bird rights? I forget. Anyway, just spit-balling/wishful thinking, but could the Mavs give LMA or even Dragic the max ($20MM), resign Aminu ($6MM), and add Danny Green ($10MM)? I'm assuming that the recent increase in 2015 cap would give Mavs about $36MM. So we sign those guys, THEN S&T Tyson and go over the cap? Not sure if that's even possible.
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06-30-2015, 08:36 PM
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Looks like the CBA would allow to pack Felton into the S&T too...means we gain some important cap back (Aminu)....
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06-30-2015, 08:47 PM
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If we are signing Green or Matthews I'm pretty sure Aminu is gone. Just reading around from other fan postings like Blazers, Knicks, C's, and Rapts some really see Aminu in the 6m area and I saw a few say they wouldn't hate 8m. An interesting mention of him being like a poor man's Draymond by one fan.
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06-30-2015, 08:49 PM
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If we are signing Green or Matthews I'm pretty sure Aminu is gone. Just reading around from other fan postings like Blazers, Knicks, C's, and Rapts some really see Aminu in the 6m area and I saw a few say they wouldn't hate 8m. An interesting mention of him being like a poor man's Draymond by one fan.
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love aminu, but don't see the similarities beyond the energy and maybe position/defense, Draymond is a better shooter, and is a much much better playmaker, haven't seen really much playmaking skills from Aminu. Aminu is underrated kind of like a younger draymond, but they aren't really similar imo.
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06-30-2015, 09:03 PM
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love aminu, but don't see the similarities beyond the energy and maybe position/defense, Draymond is a better shooter, and is a much much better playmaker, haven't seen really much playmaking skills from Aminu. Aminu is underrated kind of like a younger draymond, but they aren't really similar imo.
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I think the Green comparison is solely for the fact he can guard multiple positions and brings lineup versatility. Green is more 4/5 Aminu is more 3/4 but they both provide position flex, rebounding, and defense. If we get DJ and Matthews/Danny I don' know how we can bring Aminu back if even 1 GM values him at 6m+. Most articles a month ago guessed Aminu was in the 4m area. If JJ is wanting 3m and multiple years I see no reason why Aminu can't get more than 4per and multi year.
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06-30-2015, 08:54 PM
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Losing aminu would be a disaster
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06-30-2015, 10:53 PM
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Tyson has a cap hold of 20m...so no, it doesnt work. Keeping Tysons bird rights kills 20m of the cap space.
It works for the Spurs with Leonard because his cap hold is just 7,5m and his new contract will be bigger. Tysons new contract will be lower than his cap hold
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06-30-2015, 10:58 PM
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Ahh, okay. Thanks for the explanation.
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06-30-2015, 11:37 PM
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Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 17s18 seconds ago
Immediate change to DeAndre Jordan's meeting schedule: ESPN sources say Mavs having dinner with Clippers center as we speak
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06-30-2015, 11:59 PM
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LOCK IT UP and lets get out and spend the rest before the other pieces are gone. Come on down, DJ.
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07-01-2015, 12:22 AM
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While Clippers free agent center DeAndre Jordan is having dinner with the Mavericks tonight, the Clippers, Knicks & Lakers also put in calls
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https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo/s...07780215173120
Dinner > calls
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07-01-2015, 01:35 AM
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Apparently we get two meetings-- friendly chat over dinner tonight
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Official meeting tomorrow and you know Cubes has the contract guidelines in hand.
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07-01-2015, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky
Apparently we get two meetings-- friendly chat over dinner tonight
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Official meeting tomorrow and you know Cubes has the contract guidelines in hand.
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Any idea what time?
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07-01-2015, 08:37 AM
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Any idea what time?
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@espn_macmahon: Mavs had dinners with DeAndre Jordan, Wes Matthews as free agency opened. Official DJ meeting this a.m. http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...ey-matthews-la
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07-01-2015, 08:56 AM
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Sounds like we'll know what's up with Jordan in the next day or two...
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07-01-2015, 10:46 AM
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I do see that front office communication is a lot better than last big free agents past years.
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07-01-2015, 11:32 AM
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@espn_macmahon: Mavs likely to try to get Wes Matthews deal done before DeAndre Jordan's decision. Believe it could help sway DJ to Dallas.
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07-01-2015, 11:39 AM
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@espn_macmahon: Mavs likely to try to get Wes Matthews deal done before DeAndre Jordan's decision. Believe it could help sway DJ to Dallas.
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Very interested in details of this contract. Any rumors out there?
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07-01-2015, 11:43 AM
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I have a very strong feeling Jordan is coming to the Mavs. It just feels like it.
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07-01-2015, 11:46 AM
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Be curious to know what T. Chandler's price tag is. I'm guessing pretty high at 13-15 mil a year?
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07-01-2015, 01:34 PM
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Be curious to know what T. Chandler's price tag is. I'm guessing pretty high at 13-15 mil a year?
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If we don't land Jordan Chandler's price tag probably goes up. He can use that as leverage.
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07-01-2015, 11:49 AM
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33 this summer...probably 3/40 or 3/45 from a really desperate team (Lakers)
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07-01-2015, 11:54 AM
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Honestly, I can't believe how many mid-tier FAs have signed contracts before the top-tier FAs have... We're not even 24 hours into free agency, and it's already gotten to the point where our offseason is going to be a complete bust if we don't land Jordan -- the Plan Bs have pretty much dried up.
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07-01-2015, 12:05 PM
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Plan B without Jordan is probably a mix of R. Lopez/G.Green/trading Felton for Lawson using cap etc
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