On Deck : Government Universal Health Care

[alexamenos]

Originally Posted by GermanDunk

I still don´t know why public healthcare is evil. It´s the best thing ever invented !

I'm going to go with the iPhone 3gs as the greatest thing ever. If the iPhone had a vagina I would never need to actually be in the same room with another person.

As for public healthcare....even if we were to agree that public health care is a good idea in theory, there's still the question of whether this government (the US Fed Gov) can handle such a thing.

On the second question, there's basically zero reason to believe the the Fed Gov can and will do anything useful when it comes to healthcare -- zero....to borrow a phrase from aquaadverse, "there are zero examples of this."

The Fed Gov is a bloated, corrupt, out of control institution....who would want a bloated, corrupt, out of control institution rationing your health care?

just a few little factoids....

The Fed Gov is running about a $1,800,000,000,000 deficit this year;
The Pentagon cannot account for how it spent trillions of dollars;
The Federal Reserve won't account for what it's done with trillions of dollars.

When we start measuring an institution's fiscal irresponsibilities with Trillions (rather than billions or preferably millions), it's time to reign it in, not give it more.

[GermanDunk]

Originally Posted by aquaadverse

Really? I thought a ribbed condom worn inside out took that prize. Does that make me selfish?
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Originally Posted by alexamenos

I'm going to go with the iPhone 3gs as the greatest thing ever. If the iPhone had a vagina I would never need to actually be in the same room with another person.

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The Fed Gov is running about a $1,800,000,000,000 deficit this year;
The Pentagon cannot account for how it spent trillions of dollars;
The Federal Reserve won't account for what it's done with trillions of dollars.

When we start measuring an institution's fiscal irresponsibilities with Trillions (rather than billions or preferably millions), it's time to reign it in, not give it more.

I know what you mean, guys, but i can´t imagine a society with more bureaucracy than germany ( we have about 230 public insurance organizations (some small) the big ones are organized seperately in every state + the private orgs...) (when one family member has a job the whole family is covered; that´s ok. Imagine a guestworker has 20 kids and is married with three women, all are covered, even when the rest of the family lives somewhere in the middle east...it´s just ridiculous )

Therefore i mentioned such an endeavor will not work without hard jurisdiction. Means limiting the number of public insurances, limiting the refundable med. products to those that are field tested and handing out only the number of pills that are needed for the healing...
But why connecting it with the secretary, why not as an organization working under D.C.´s control ?
Don´t want to play the smart ass. Just to give some ideas for the discussion.