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GermanStandard · 07-04-2016, 07:03 AM

Deron 1Y/10M
Dwight 4Y/37M

gotta be kidding me...

37M for Dwight Powell?

Mavs get desperate.

hayth.james.g · 07-04-2016, 07:19 AM

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Deron 1Y/10M
Dwight 4Y/37M

gotta be kidding me...

37M for Dwight Powell?

Mavs get desperate.

Seems like a fair price.

Skywalker · 07-04-2016, 07:44 AM

lol, have you seen the contracts that are being thrown around? This is fine. As long as Powell can get consistent PT that is.

As for Deron, sure it would've been nice to find a more reliable option but at least we're not stuck with him long term...

Murphy3 · 07-04-2016, 08:17 AM

Well, it's a lot for a guy that logs DNP-CD.

Dtownsfinest · 07-04-2016, 08:53 AM

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Well, it's a lot for a guy that logs DNP-CD.

That's my problem with it. Hopefully this guarantees he plays but for this money he can't be the DNP guy anymore. He shouldn't have been that guy anyway.

DirkFTW · 07-04-2016, 09:19 AM

We got Dwight?!?!

Oh.

Melonhead · 07-04-2016, 09:49 AM

Deron for 1 year means he will walk at the end of the season and the mavs wont get anything in return

jacktruth · 07-04-2016, 09:59 AM

The problem with the deal for Powell is that he was restricted. They didn't need to set the market on him. The market was going to come to them.

However, I think one of Cuban's strategies is that he pays for loyalty. That's why he maxed Matthews after Jordan bailed. He's going for the emotional coddling of his players with money. I think he's an idiot.

EricaLubarsky · 07-04-2016, 10:23 AM

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The problem with the deal for Powell is that he was restricted. They didn't need to set the market on him. The market was going to come to them.

However, I think one of Cuban's strategies is that he pays for loyalty. That's why he maxed Matthews after Jordan bailed. He's going for the emotional coddling of his players with money. I think he's an idiot.

He pays for loyalty but his lack of pay makes him disloyal?

ffballer · 07-04-2016, 10:30 AM

37 million for powell?are we that desperate? jesus nobody is taking that contract in the future either, i can tell you that one, whats anderson contract?

Melonhead · 07-04-2016, 10:35 AM

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37 million for powell?are we that desperate? jesus nobody is taking that contract in the future either, i can tell you that one, whats anderson contract?

9million is nothing with the cap rising again next year. He could easily be moved in the future if needed.

EricaLubarsky · 07-04-2016, 10:39 AM

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9million is nothing with the cap rising again next year. He could easily be moved in the future if needed.

This. It's not a crazy contract. What's crazy to me is how much he was jerked around last year. He'd do like 12-5 one game and a DNP the next

Underdog · 07-04-2016, 10:43 AM

Gotta play him if you're gonna pay him.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-04-2016, 11:25 AM

If Rick didn't like Powell, then he wouldn't have gotten this contract. The no trade clause is puzzling, but that probably means there were better offers.

Dunno why anyone would be even remotely surprised at the numbers of the contract though. 9 mil a year is reasonable compared to a lot of guys. And I knew there was no way they'd let a young athletic big like Powell go...especially after not landing Whiteside or Conley.

Skywalker · 07-04-2016, 11:27 AM

Isn't there a minimum number of years you gotta be with a team before you can add a no trade clause to your contract though?

purplefrog · 07-04-2016, 11:29 AM

Question: Does signing Powell to this contract, as opposed to waiting for suitors to sign him to an offer sheet and then the Mavs matching, mean the Mavs would be able to sign and trade him more easily/quickly?

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-04-2016, 11:29 AM

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This. It's not a crazy contract. What's crazy to me is how much he was jerked around last year. He'd do like 12-5 one game and a DNP the next

This was the same story for all of the young and/or inexperienced guys though. And I've hammered it home that they ALL (at least Simba, Mejri, and Powell) should have had a bigger role last season.

Underdog · 07-04-2016, 12:01 PM

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Isn't there a minimum number of years you gotta be with a team before you can add a no trade clause to your contract though?

8 years in the league, 4 years with the same team... Basically a no-trade clause is impossible for Powell, not sure where this info came from.

NeedlesKane · 07-04-2016, 08:17 PM

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Gotta play him if you're gonna pay him.

Really? Explain Tariq Abdul-Wahad then.

Wang Zhi Zhi · 07-04-2016, 08:46 PM

Re-sign

Underdog · 07-13-2016, 01:46 PM

‏@espn_macmahon: Rick Carlisle on Dwight Powell: "I expect him to be a rotation player. The last two years we've been working toward this period where we could get him signed to a longer-term deal and integrate him to our everyday rotation."

Powell, who turns 25 next week, was in and out of the rotation last season, appearing in only 17 of 27 games after the All-Star break. However, the Mavs made Powell a priority this summer, re-signing the restricted free agent to a four-year, $37 million deal.

Thebo · 07-13-2016, 03:55 PM

I am surprised people are amazed of this signing. I thought it was common knowledge that Mavs did not play Powell because they did not want him to get huge contract this summer.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-13-2016, 04:26 PM

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‏@espn_macmahon: Rick Carlisle on Dwight Powell: "I expect him to be a rotation player. The last two years we've been working toward this period where we could get him signed to a longer-term deal and integrate him to our everyday rotation."

Powell, who turns 25 next week, was in and out of the rotation last season, appearing in only 17 of 27 games after the All-Star break. However, the Mavs made Powell a priority this summer, re-signing the restricted free agent to a four-year, $37 million deal.

Ahh, so maybe they did hold him back so his value didn't up too much. Actually isn't out of the question.

Skywalker · 07-13-2016, 04:38 PM

NBPA won't be too happy about it if that's indeed the case I would imagine

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-13-2016, 04:50 PM

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NBPA won't be too happy about it if that's indeed the case I would imagine

Wouldn't be any real way to prove it. And Powell is young enough that developing him the right way is easily within the realm or reasoning.

And lots of the young and/or inexperienced guys got inconsistent minutes.

mac222b · 07-13-2016, 05:16 PM

Either way he got a fair deal. He showed great promise but also that he needs a lot of work to develop consistency especially his jumper, finishing at the rim and defense.

Kidd Karma · 07-15-2016, 06:23 PM

Nets were considering a 4 year 48 million dollar offer for Powell...

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/17...s-front-center

Underdog · 07-28-2016, 05:17 PM

@_Isaac_Harris_: "I would have liked a longer-term deal, but it is what it is" -Deron Williams on @BenandSkin

@_Isaac_Harris_: Deron Williams said he had other options, but waited on Mavs. "Decided to give it one more year at least" (via @BenandSkin)

EricaLubarsky · 07-28-2016, 07:26 PM

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@_Isaac_Harris_: "I would have liked a longer-term deal, but it is what it is" -Deron Williams on @BenandSkin

@_Isaac_Harris_: Deron Williams said he had other options, but waited on Mavs. "Decided to give it one more year at least" (via @BenandSkin)

Interesting. Seems like we really are devoted to being young even if we suck. Not even a minimum offer for Felton, too.

mac222b · 07-29-2016, 02:18 AM

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Interesting. Seems like we really are devoted to being young even if we suck. Not even a minimum offer for Felton, too.

I find not offering Felton a little curious with the amount of games that Deron, Devin and even JJB now tend to miss. And he was one of our best at taking it off the dribble and late shot clock. I guess we'll be seeing some of Curry as the distributor and they must believe in his ability to get it done.

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-29-2016, 03:03 AM

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@_Isaac_Harris_: "I would have liked a longer-term deal, but it is what it is" -Deron Williams on @BenandSkin

@_Isaac_Harris_: Deron Williams said he had other options, but waited on Mavs. "Decided to give it one more year at least" (via @BenandSkin)

Well Deron you can certainly earn a longer term deal by not half assing it half the season and staying healthy. Parsons is gone so the team is all yours to run.