05-23-2022, 07:48 AM
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Trade Luka for 3 all-stars and 1 superstar.
Hire DP into front office role. And I mean an admin/receptionist role.
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05-23-2022, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Trade Luka for 3 all-stars and 1 superstar.
Hire DP into front office role. And I mean an admin/receptionist role.
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I would rather trade the front office for new ownership than trade Luka. I take it you are just spitballing here.
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05-23-2022, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Trade Luka for 3 all-stars and 1 superstar.
Hire DP into front office role. And I mean an admin/receptionist role.
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I know you are joking, but I don't think any GM would trade Luka for Steph, Klay, Draymond, Wiggins and Kuminga, nor would they trade him for Booker, Ayton and Bridges. I personally wouldn't trade him for the Grizzlies young core either. And I don't care that their GM wouldn't do it either, because they love their teams, none of the not directly involved GMs would trade Doncic for those packages either. He is, by far, the most valuable trade chip in the league.
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05-23-2022, 09:46 AM
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There have been two major difference between the Mavs and Warrior this series:
1) Our one-dimensional wings (DFS, Bull, Kleber) vs. their wings who can score at least at two different level (Wiggins, Poole, Klay).
2) Our lack of interior presence.
No easy solutions. I would start with selling/ fielding offers for SD or Brunson, Kleber, Powell, Green, Frankie, THJ, and Bullock.
We are going to tempted to fix our squad with continuity. What we have seen is that we are clearly outmatched 2-15, especially when threes aren't falling. We don't need more 3&D, we need guys who aren't scared to dribble and finish at the basket. We desperately need a PnR partner for Luka. I would pursue Capela hard.
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05-23-2022, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by tap2390
There have been two major difference between the Mavs and Warrior this series:
1) Our one-dimensional wings (DFS, Bull, Kleber) vs. their wings who can score at least at two different level (Wiggins, Poole, Klay).
2) Our lack of interior presence.
No easy solutions. I would start with selling/ fielding offers for SD or Brunson, Kleber, Powell, Green, Frankie, THJ, and Bullock.
We are going to tempted to fix our squad with continuity. What we have seen is that we are clearly outmatched 2-15, especially when threes aren't falling. We don't need more 3&D, we need guys who aren't scared to dribble and finish at the basket. We desperately need a PnR partner for Luka. I would pursue Capela hard.
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Pretty spot on. One dimensional wings, especially "3&D" are a problem waiting to happen. They can't generate anything themselves ans if they aren't hitting at a really high clip, the whole thing unravels.
Even the basic ability to fake a shot, put their head down and drive hard to the rim is lacking.
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05-23-2022, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Pretty spot on. One dimensional wings, especially "3&D" are a problem waiting to happen. They can't generate anything themselves ans if they aren't hitting at a really high clip, the whole thing unravels.
Even the basic ability to fake a shot, put their head down and drive hard to the rim is lacking.
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If only we had drafted Maxey or Bane or Bey.
Everything that is wrong with this team has nothing to do with the players on it. It has to do with who put this team together and the previous FO mishaps.
But Powell is a unique one. He is to blame for the players who think he is their heart and soul, the coach who plays him, AND the FO who wouldn't trade him. Hard to get rid of a guy that has the backing of everyone. Someone needs to step up and have a reality check. Hopefully Nico can do it.
Good new is that Luka, Brunson, and Dinwiddie are good enough to get to you to the WCF. I think Spencer will do well having a full training camp and a more defined role.
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05-23-2022, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
If only we had drafted Maxey or Bane or Bey.
Everything that is wrong with this team has nothing to do with the players on it. It has to do with who put this team together and the previous FO mishaps.
But Powell is a unique one. He is to blame for the players who think he is their heart and soul, the coach who plays him, AND the FO who wouldn't trade him. Hard to get rid of a guy that has the backing of everyone. Someone needs to step up and have a reality check. Hopefully Nico can do it.
Good new is that Luka, Brunson, and Dinwiddie are good enough to get to you to the WCF. I think Spencer will do well having a full training camp and a more defined role.
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Not sure Luka, Brunson and Dinwiddie are good enough to get us this far again without a big retooling. We could be one and done with this core
Last edited by Zeus; 05-23-2022 at 12:47 PM.
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05-29-2022, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeus
Not sure Luka, Brunson and Dinwiddie are good enough to get us this far again without a big retooling. We could be one and done with this core
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This 10000%
Mavs need to get length athleticism skill the lack of any rebounding was evident during playoffs.
Need also a low post scorer for second unit so when them bricks start raining down from 3 u can try half court game.
The clock on Luka staying continuing to tick he not gonna stay loyal like dirk did 20 years to finally see front office built the right team.
Mavs have maybe 2 or3 more seasons before Luka bolts to LA or nyc
Luka taken bunch of undrafted and second rd players and failed1st rdpicks to conference finals imagine if he has legit #2 rolling with him
Instead of #3(jalen) #4(Dinwiddie) scoring options pretending to me #2s
P.s. I live in NYC and Julius Randle is a no go if u trade with Knicks u want toppin and Mcbride those are 2 young players buried in depth chart of vets that are diamonds.
Toppin is walking double/double machine if given 30 minutes a night
Mcbride can score and beat people of dribble and create easy baskets down in paint dishing oftobigs for dunks orlauup plus the fouls created off penetration these young athletic skill players mavs need
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05-23-2022, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
If only we had drafted Maxey or Bane or Bey.
Everything that is wrong with this team has nothing to do with the players on it. It has to do with who put this team together and the previous FO mishaps.
But Powell is a unique one. He is to blame for the players who think he is their heart and soul, the coach who plays him, AND the FO who wouldn't trade him. Hard to get rid of a guy that has the backing of everyone. Someone needs to step up and have a reality check. Hopefully Nico can do it.
Good new is that Luka, Brunson, and Dinwiddie are good enough to get to you to the WCF. I think Spencer will do well having a full training camp and a more defined role.
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Bane was a fn no brainer and the extent of my scouting was watching every TCU game that he played. I'm not sure how we justified actually selecting a raw JGreen when we needed a plug and play next to Luka. Bane was ready to sbe a starter right out of the box, especially here. He shot lights out, can floor it, can pass and was a fairly salty defender. But hey...his fn arms are short.
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05-23-2022, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SMC0007
Bane was a fn no brainer and the extent of my scouting was watching every TCU game that he played. I'm not sure how we justified actually selecting a raw JGreen when we needed a plug and play next to Luka. Bane was ready to sbe a starter right out of the box, especially here. He shot lights out, can floor it, can pass and was a fairly salty defender. But hey...his fn arms are short.
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I thought they would run to the podium when Saddiq Bey was still available. 3&D player coming out of Villanova who has a history of developing talent (see Brunson). I remember reading a lot of people wanting Bane too. Instead we got Green who is again unplayable because he can’t shoot worth a shit.
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05-23-2022, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart
If only we had drafted Maxey or Bane or Bey.
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We could have easily had Maxey/Bey and then Bane (by trading our two high second rounders for the 30th pick). So instead of ZERO players from that draft we would have had TWO perfect fits for the team.
If we are getting greedy, lets get greedy.
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05-23-2022, 05:48 PM
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Warriors are playing championship basketball and if they keep playing at this level (and I am not sure they will), then not many teams would beat them in a seven game series. That being said, they have exposed the #1 and #2 Mavs weaknesses, being they have no rim protector and are a poor rebounding team. We all knew this and it is not surprising that a smart, athletic team like the Warriors would exploit these deficiencies and create a huge mountain to climb for the Mavs.
I am going to go against the grain here a bit and say the Mavs can still make this a competitive series if they make can shoot the three-point shot at about a 40-45% clip. I realize they did this in game #2, but that was just weird they could go that cold in the second half after shooting so well in the first and second quarters. Sure, take the ball to the basket and do some post-ups with Luka. But, in the end this team lives and dies from beyond the arc, so I wouldn't imagine they could reinvent themselves at this point in time. If they shoot 20 something % from three, well that is just how the ball bounces.
Moving forward, it is obvious the MBT needs two or three players who can provide some interior defense and rebound. But, I am not sure what's the best path to get there (draft, trade, FA market). Otherwise, it's just throw up the threes and hope for the best.
Here is a maybe crazy idea to shake things up a bit. Start Boban for the first 4-6 minutes of the game instead of Powell. Do the same at the beginning of the third quarter if it works. You don't play him more than 10-12 minutes but his presence might be a head scratcher for the Warriors. Bobi strikes me as a smart player, so he might be able to get some rebounds and score a half dozen points in the post in that time (can Looney guard him?). I think Kidd needs to do something outside the box. This might be one step in that direction.
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