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EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2016, 09:10 PM

The plan?

Seduce Wade. Get him to agree. Then we run to Houston and refuse all calls from him while we negotiate with Whiteside. Whiteside signs under duress from Rick and the promise Wade will be gone from Miami.

MFFL · 07-01-2016, 09:11 PM

If we decide the "development" route, do we trade Matthews? Lots of teams with cap room and maybe we can get a young player or a pick for him

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2016, 09:12 PM

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If we decide the "development" route, do we trade Matthews? Lots of teams with cap room and maybe we can get a young player or a pick for him

I see Matthews as our Finley. He'll bridge us over while being high character.

MFFL · 07-01-2016, 09:15 PM

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I see Matthews as our Finley. He'll bridge us over while being high character.

Do we want a bridge or do we want to be as bad as possible for one year and hopefully get lucky in the draft?

Matthews can be responsible for us winning a couple extra games. Do we want that?

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2016, 09:18 PM

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Do we want a bridge or do we want to be as bad as possible for one year and hopefully get lucky in the draft?

Matthews can be responsible for us winning a couple extra games. Do we want that?

I think you're totally overestimating Matthews' abilities. Dude wasn't very good last year and with an even worse supporting cast I don't see him improving

Thespiralgoeson · 07-01-2016, 09:20 PM

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Do we want a bridge or do we want to be as bad as possible for one year and hopefully get lucky in the draft?

I'd say a few years as opposed to just one. Unless there's an absolute Duncan/Lebron-level sure thing in next year's draft.

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Matthews can be responsible for us winning a couple extra games. Do we want that?

Even if we don't (and I don't at this point), if we're going to tank then it seems we have too much cap room for our own good. That's what I was getting at earlier.

MFFL · 07-01-2016, 09:28 PM

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if we're going to tank then it seems we have too much cap room for our own good. That's what I was getting at earlier.

But you can acquire bad contracts from capped out teams and get a pick

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2016, 09:26 PM

How many guys can we get on one-year deals? How many expiring contracts can we absorb so we can pull the same bullshit next summer too?

DoYouEvenLift · 07-01-2016, 09:28 PM

I guess give Dirk a max contract and trade for Tyson? See if you can give Tyson a raise too under CBA so we can fil more cap space.

MFFL · 07-01-2016, 09:37 PM

If the Clippers get Durant, what would they pay for us to take Pierce? I'm sure there are other teams wanting to move players

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 09:39 PM

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If the Clippers get Durant, what would they pay for us to take Pierce? I'm sure there are other teams wanting to move players

Talk about an all vet team if Wade decides going to play for Dallas. Defensive upgrade forward guard wise.

FreshJive · 07-01-2016, 09:43 PM

If the Mavs really are going after Wade, then they haven't decided to tank just yet. That's not a tank move. It says more than their lack of interest in players like Mahinmi.

Thespiralgoeson · 07-01-2016, 09:48 PM

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If the Mavs really are going after Wade, then they haven't decided to tank just yet. That's not a tank move. It says more than their lack of interest in players like Mahinmi.

It sounded though like the word was that they're not trying very hard to pursue Wade.

FreshJive · 07-01-2016, 09:57 PM

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It sounded though like the word was that they're not trying very hard to pursue Wade.

Yeah who knows? I said if. The Woj article didn't give any specifics about degree of effort among the four teams.

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 09:49 PM

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If the Mavs really are going after Wade, then they haven't decided to tank just yet. That's not a tank move. It says more than their lack of interest in players like Mahinmi.

Much different options can open up if Wade signs here. Who knows if he can ask Deng to join him too.

Underdog · 07-01-2016, 09:50 PM

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Much different options can open up if Wade signs here. Who knows if he can ask Deng to join him too.

Are you high?

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 09:56 PM

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Are you high?

Who's talking to Deng anyway?

BPo001 · 07-01-2016, 10:24 PM

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Much different options can open up if Wade signs here. Who knows if he can ask Deng to join him too.

Why get Deng when he can bring Gerald Green back with him?

FreshJive · 07-01-2016, 10:31 PM

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Why get Deng when he can bring Gerald Green back with him?

Back to reality. We know Green will be in Miami next season, because that's where Whiteside signed.

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 10:39 PM

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Why get Deng when he can bring Gerald Green back with him?

Good one, kid!

Underdog · 07-01-2016, 09:46 PM

@ShamsCharania: Free agent guard Kent Bazemore has agreed to a four-year, $70M deal to re-sign with Atlanta, league sources tell The Vertical.

sefant77 · 07-01-2016, 09:47 PM

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@ShamsCharania: Free agent guard Kent Bazemore has agreed to a four-year, $70M deal to re-sign with Atlanta, league sources tell The Vertical.

Means Horford is gone for sure. They cant fit Dwight, Bazemore and Horford under their cap

Underdog · 07-01-2016, 09:48 PM

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Means Horford is gone for sure. They cant fit Dwight, Bazemore and Horford under their cap

@ZachLowe_NBA: And Al Horford is no longer a Hawk.

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 09:50 PM

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@ZachLowe_NBA: And Al Horford is no longer a Hawk.

That was obvious, Zach. Even an regular Mavs fan like me knew it right when Howard decided.

sefant77 · 07-01-2016, 09:47 PM

lol Wade using us (and other teams) as leverage for his money

IF he changes teams, he is going tó his hometown Chicago...Butler, Lopez and a bunch of PFs, not worse then Dallas and its in the east

FreshJive · 07-01-2016, 09:51 PM

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lol Wade using us (and other teams) as leverage for his money

IF he changes teams, he is going tó his hometown Chicago...Butler, Lopez and a bunch of PFs, not worse then Dallas and its in the east

I wouldn't rule out Milwaukee since he played there in college.

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 09:59 PM

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I wouldn't rule out Milwaukee since he played there in college.

They're the ones I think Wade decides if not us.

quietsavant · 07-01-2016, 09:47 PM

#freedirk....it's time. Do what's right by the man who's too honorable to do what he knows he must say: "my whole life has been about this moment johnny..cmon compadre" to which Cuban should respond: "Vaya con Dios, He's not coming back".

AO41 · 07-01-2016, 09:59 PM

I greatly dislike Wade

BUT if we can sin him and Hartford and maybe Deng

Williams/Wade
Matthews/ Wade
Deng/ Anderson
Dirk/ Hartfod
Hartford/ Mejri

That's still a pretty decent team and look to improve the PG position or get another PF

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 10:00 PM

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I greatly dislike Wade

BUT if we can sin him and Hartford and maybe Deng

Williams/Wade
Matthews/ Wade
Deng/ Anderson
Dirk/ Hartfod
Hartford/ Mejri

That's still a pretty decent team and look to improve the PG position or get another PF

You forgot JJ, Harris, and Powell.

DoYouEvenLift · 07-01-2016, 11:09 PM

Hypothetical question if Cuban decided to sell the team would you guys be

-Furious
-Happy
-Neutral/Somewhere in between?

Underdog · 07-01-2016, 11:20 PM

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Hypothetical question if Cuban decided to sell the team would you guys be

-Furious
-Happy
-Neutral/Somewhere in between?

Mark Cuban says he wouldn't sell Mavs for any price: 'What do I need $3 billion for?

But it's still too early to say... Gotta see what happens with the rest of free agency, Dirk.

Dtownsfinest · 07-01-2016, 11:27 PM

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Hypothetical question if Cuban decided to sell the team would you guys be

-Furious
-Happy
-Neutral/Somewhere in between?

It depends on who he sold it to. But i'd probably be neutral.

Cuban was once a gutsy, fun, risk-taking owner.........he's the opposite of that now.

Thespiralgoeson · 07-01-2016, 11:32 PM

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It depends on who he sold it to. But i'd probably be neutral.

Cuban was once a gutsy, fun, risk-taking owner.........he's the opposite of that now.

Well he's definitely still risk-taking. The problem is, they're really dumb risks. And I'd say he's still very "gutsy" although being "gutsy" can be a bad thing if it isn't backed by good judgment.

yahyes · 07-01-2016, 11:32 PM

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It depends on who he sold it to. But i'd probably be neutral.

Cuban was once a gutsy, fun, risk-taking owner.........he's the opposite of that now.

I think the idea of him offering Wade 20mil is gutsy enough.

Dtownsfinest · 07-01-2016, 11:53 PM

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I think the idea of him offering Wade 20mil is gutsy enough.

Is that fact or are you speaking hypothetically?

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Well he's definitely still risk-taking. The problem is, they're really dumb risks. And I'd say he's still very "gutsy" although being "gutsy" can be a bad thing if it isn't backed by good judgment.

What do you consider the risks?

yahyes · 07-02-2016, 12:23 AM

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Is that fact or are you speaking hypothetically?

What do you consider the risks?

We're one of four teams who offered Wade 20mil. While the heat offered him 10mil.

FreshJive · 07-02-2016, 12:21 PM

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Is that fact or are you speaking hypothetically?

What do you consider the risks?

Letting Parsons walk for a 1% shot at Conley and Whiteside? Letting Tyson, Aminu, Monta walk for a shot at DAJ? Overpaying Parsons to try to pry him from Houston?

EricaLubarsky · 07-01-2016, 11:37 PM

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Hypothetical question if Cuban decided to sell the team would you guys be

-Furious
-Happy
-Neutral/Somewhere in between?

Happy short term, neutral long term. Odds are good that we'd get worse ownership, or worse yet-- an ownership group like the Suns have.

+it's a win guy who knows how to win
= it's a win guy like Cuban who can't get us to winning
- it's a completely apathetic owner/group who just wants money

DoYouEvenLift · 07-01-2016, 11:34 PM

I'm not sure if gutsy is the right word offering this Dwayne Wade who's been on minute restrictions 20 million a year. We have all kinds of holes one of the few positions we're ok at is shooting guard with Matthews it makes no sense, and to top it off it's Dwayne Wade.