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chumdawg · 08-03-2012, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

When it's said and done, he'll definitely be top 10. Maybe top 5.

When it's said and done, he'll probably be #1.

Thespiralgoeson · 08-03-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

When it's said and done, he'll probably be #1.

It's certainly not far-fetched.

Kidd Karma · 08-06-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

When it's said and done, he'll probably be #1.

Agreed.

LonghornDub · 08-03-2012, 03:34 PM

I dunno if he'll be #1 or #3 or #5 or whatever, but he'll be way up there. This narrative about him being a "loser" or a "choker" was never going to last.

saclare · 08-04-2012, 07:03 PM

Wade has no business being in the top-25 all-time. Just my opinion.

jay3189 · 07-29-2014, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by saclare

Wade has no business being in the top-25 all-time. Just my opinion.

Are you serious?
Dwyane Wade Career Accomplishments
3x-Time NBA Champ
5x- Time East Champ
10x- NBA AllStar
2x- NBA All First Team
1x NBA Scoring Champ
The greatest shotblocking guard ever

dirt_dobber · 07-29-2014, 11:40 AM

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Are you serious?
Dwyane Wade Career Accomplishments
3x-Time NBA Champ
5x- Time East Champ
10x- NBA AllStar
2x- NBA All First Team
1x NBA Scoring Champ
The greatest shotblocking guard ever

and in the last 4 games of the 2006 NBA playoffs he
went to the FT line 18.5x per game - a record!

Underdog · 08-06-2012, 02:37 PM

LeBron as the #1 player of all time?

He's gotta do a helluva lot more than win a ring in a lockout-shortened season (*) to earn that title... Let's see him win one when the playing field is even.

Thespiralgoeson · 07-28-2014, 04:47 PM

* 2nd Bump* Even though it was started by he who shall not be named, this is a damn good thread and I think the discussion deserves to be revisited. A lot has happened in the two years since, specifically when it comes to two players- Lebron and Durant. Lebron has two rings now, and Durant has an MVP and a career of absolutely sick numbers.

I don't feel like revising my whole list just now, but I just know Lebron has to be in the top 10. If I'm starting a franchise today, I'd take Lebron over Magic or Larry, easily. Wouldn't even blink. And Durant has to be pretty high on the list too- higher than Dirk, it pains me to say. The only argument otherwise is that Dirk has a ring and Durant doesn't, but Durant is only 25 and has accomplished a great deal more than Dirk had at the same age.

jay3189 · 07-28-2014, 09:07 PM

Thats a tough question. But I will say Dwyane, Kobe, Timmy, KG, and Lebron are most definitely in the top 25.

GermanStandard · 07-29-2014, 08:06 AM

From nowadays Players Lebron, Kobe, KG, Dirk and Durant will make that list.

Wade and Carmelo will be runner ups.

jay3189 · 07-29-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GermanStandard

From nowadays Players Lebron, Kobe, KG, Dirk and Durant will make that list.

Wade and Carmelo will be runner ups.

So you are saying KD will make the list before DWade? I disagree with you on that 100%. Honestly I would even put Wade in front of Dirk as well. Wade is a way better all around player than Dirk and Kevin

Underdog · 07-29-2014, 11:29 AM

The problem with bumping old threads like this is that there's always somebody who argues with opinions that were posted 2-3 years ago... Context can change a lot in that amount of time.

Thespiralgoeson · 07-29-2014, 01:13 PM

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The problem with bumping old threads like this is that there's always somebody who argues with opinions that were posted 2-3 years ago... Context can change a lot in that amount of time.

True, but that's also the main reason I bumped it- to note just how much the landscape of the NBA has changed in 2-3 years. Three years ago, few people (on this board anyway) would have put Lebron in the top 25, and nobody nobody would have put Durant in there.

It also strikes me how much I disagree with my own list. Looking back on it, I think I overrated Moses Malone. In fact I think he's a bit overrated in general- he was a notorious stat-padder. If I were to remake the list now, I'd probably have him behind Dirk. I might have Baylor and Dr. J a little lower as well.

Underdog · 07-29-2014, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

True, but that's also the main reason I bumped it- to note just how much the landscape of the NBA has changed in 2-3 years. Three years ago, few people (on this board anyway) would have put Lebron in the top 25, and nobody nobody would have put Durant in there.

It also strikes me how much I disagree with my own list. Looking back on it, I think I overrated Moses Malone. In fact I think he's a bit overrated in general- he was a notorious stat-padder. If I were to remake the list now, I'd probably have him behind Dirk. I might have Baylor and Dr. J a little lower as well.

Oh, I get why you bumped it - I just don't think that some of the people posting in this thread understand that they're responding to years-old posts.

Five-ofan · 07-30-2014, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

True, but that's also the main reason I bumped it- to note just how much the landscape of the NBA has changed in 2-3 years. Three years ago, few people (on this board anyway) would have put Lebron in the top 25, and nobody nobody would have put Durant in there.

It also strikes me how much I disagree with my own list. Looking back on it, I think I overrated Moses Malone. In fact I think he's a bit overrated in general- he was a notorious stat-padder. If I were to remake the list now, I'd probably have him behind Dirk. I might have Baylor and Dr. J a little lower as well.

Dr j is the one you have overrated but that's not rare. He's almost without question the most overrated player ever largely because of his ridiculously inflated aba stats.

Thespiralgoeson · 07-30-2014, 09:02 AM

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Dr j is the one you have overrated but that's not rare. He's almost without question the most overrated player ever largely because of his ridiculously inflated aba stats.

You're probably right. Like several other guys on the list he was way before my time, so I never saw him play a single minute. I've only seen highlights and looked at his numbers. In context, his numbers probably aren't nearly as impressive.

Underdog · 07-30-2014, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

You're probably right. Like several other guys on the list he was way before my time, so I never saw him play a single minute. I've only seen highlights and looked at his numbers. In context, his numbers probably aren't nearly as impressive.

That's exactly why I can't come up with a Top-25 Greatest Players list of my own... I can't just rate a guy based on statistics - I need to see them play (and I didn't watch basketball before the 80's).

I could come up with a Top-25 Favorite Players list though.

Five-ofan · 07-30-2014, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

You're probably right. Like several other guys on the list he was way before my time, so I never saw him play a single minute. I've only seen highlights and looked at his numbers. In context, his numbers probably aren't nearly as impressive.

His career nba avges were 22-7-4. Not bad at all but not anything special when you consider he played in the go go 80s. Never won a title as the best player.