11-19-2009, 08:21 AM
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Unfortunately nearly no one in germany recognizes what a great sportsman he is.
Sometimes the Mavs make it to the morning news shortly after the games end, but i have never seen them in the main news at 8 or 1015 pm
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11-19-2009, 12:35 PM
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I throw out ARod simply because of lack of time spent playing for the Rangers.. same for Ryan and Fergie Jenkins.
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11-19-2009, 12:53 PM
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I throw out ARod simply because of lack of time spent playing for the Rangers.. same for Ryan and Fergie Jenkins.
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i completely disagree with you guys take on this but im gonna bow out of this discussion because this is our general props to dirk thread and it doesnt need to be cluttered up with baseball and football discussion.
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11-19-2009, 12:40 PM
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If I were to make a list, it would probably include:
Dirk
Modano
Larry Allen
Emmitt Smith (begrudingly)
Pudge (perhaps the best player ever to play his position)
DSanders
Aikman
Obviously, if we were to go back to the 60's and 70's, I'd add a couple more to that list.
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11-19-2009, 12:45 PM
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I throw out ARod on account of his steroid induced man-boobs.
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11-19-2009, 01:14 PM
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Don't worry about it 5-0. It's a Mavs discussion forum. We're discussing something related to a Mavs player.
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11-19-2009, 01:20 PM
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The point was made anyway - everyone would list Dirk as one of Dallas' best pro athletes ever (regardless of where you rank him, he's definitely in the discussion...)
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11-19-2009, 04:05 PM
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Dirk has been at that level for several years, period. To say otherwise would be uncivilized.
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11-19-2009, 04:56 PM
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Wow, you guys severely overrate Pudge imo.
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11-19-2009, 04:56 PM
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Interesting defense by coop. "Dirk is the best player at his position that dallas has ever had". He discounts Nolan/Arod because of time spent here.
He doesn't believe emmitt is on as high a pedestal as a running back as the dirkster is as a power forward for example. Has a point.
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11-19-2009, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dude1394
Interesting defense by coop. "Dirk is the best player at his position that dallas has ever had". He discounts Nolan/Arod because of time spent here.
He doesn't believe emmitt is on as high a pedestal as a running back as the dirkster is as a power forward for example. Has a point.
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Pudge has to be in that conversation. He's clearly top five at his position all time.
Nolan's not in that conversation regardless of his time spent with the Rangers.
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11-19-2009, 06:11 PM
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Dirk has qualitatively changed the PF position. I'm not sure any other Dallas athlete could make the same claim about their affect on the game. Maybe Pudge...Maybe Bob Hayes...
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11-19-2009, 08:32 PM
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Pudge has to be in that conversation. He's clearly top five at his position all time.
Nolan's not in that conversation regardless of his time spent with the Rangers.
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nolan is THE most overrated athlete in history.
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11-19-2009, 10:02 PM
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nolan is THE most overrated athlete in history.
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Myself and this guy disagrees with you.. I don't actually think you give Nolan as much credit as he deserves for the mere fact of introducing weight training to pitchers. One of the greatest imo and well deserving of any an all accolades.
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11-19-2009, 05:53 PM
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I'd like to interject that Brett Hull (3rd most goals scored in NHL history) should also be thrown out because he only spent three seasons here.
But no one included him anyway, of course.
Soooo.....
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11-19-2009, 07:36 PM
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What about Brett Hull?
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11-19-2009, 09:07 PM
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but to get this thread back to where it should be, Dirk is throwing up a 27.9/9.2/2.9/1.7/1.1 with 1.0 turnovers per game on 46% shooting with 43% 3pt shooting and 91% ft shooting statline in november. BEAST
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11-19-2009, 09:49 PM
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Greatest PF when it's all said and done, anyone?
And more likely, greatest foreign born player ever.
And most definitely, greatest player to ever be boo'd when he was drafted.
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11-19-2009, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nowitzki4President
Greatest PF when it's all said and done, anyone?
And more likely, greatest foreign born player ever.
And most definitely, greatest player to ever be boo'd when he was drafted.
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Hes already the best European player ever that much is for sure. Best pf ever is stretching and probably not likely at all.
If he can win a championship his name will be mentioned when talking about the top 3 maybe (still think Duncan is a Center)
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11-19-2009, 10:05 PM
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Hes already the best European player ever that much is for sure. Best pf ever is stretching and probably not likely at all.
If he can win a championship his name will be mentioned when talking about the top 3 maybe (still think Duncan is a Center)
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Well lets see... Dirk, Malone, Duncan?, Garnett, Bird?, anyone else?
Duncan might be a 5 and Bird maybe a 3...
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11-20-2009, 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Nowitzki4President
Greatest PF when it's all said and done, anyone?
And more likely, greatest foreign born player ever.
And most definitely, greatest player to ever be boo'd when he was drafted.
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i doubt he passes olujawon for greatest foreign born player.
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11-19-2009, 10:26 PM
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Bird was definitely a 3 I thought with McHale and the Chief out there.
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11-19-2009, 11:12 PM
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Yeah, Bird was definitely a 3. As for the 4, I don't think you can make a meaningful distinction anymore. Malone would be a 5 if he played today.
As for local players, I think you all are forgetting the great Tatu.
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11-21-2009, 12:46 AM
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http://www.82games.com/0910/0910DAL.HTM
This is flat out uncanny. Dirk leads the NBA with a +43.2 net for the season.
The Mavs are -27.5 with Dirk off the court. -27.5.
Do you realize how insane that is for someone that plays heavy minutes?
For comparison Net's.
Dirk: +43.2
Wade: +23.4
Kobe: +20.4
LeBron: +16.4
TD: +0.2
D12: +18.6
+20 better than the next best superstar.
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11-21-2009, 01:25 AM
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The off-court is going to be less reliable for someone who plays heavy minutes. Still, it's a pretty damn striking number. I've been hoping that the eventual (fingers crossed) concurrent availability of Marion, Josh, Damp, Gooden, and TT will help move that up.
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11-26-2009, 11:58 AM
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11-27-2009, 05:18 PM
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The MVP award being relayed to the (medieval) Dirk !
( New uniform )
( and somehow the horse managed to get on the picture )
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11-28-2009, 09:26 AM
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No wonder that dude is nearly unblockable. I never really noticed how far above his head he shoots it.
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11-28-2009, 09:33 AM
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So I heard Ortegal and Followill(sp) talking about the dirkster being top 20 in blocks this year (2 last night it appears). They said that the dirkster has noticed that and yakked about getting into the top 10.
Now the dirkster is probably kidding, BUT it would be an extremely significant achievement for himself and would directly translate to W's imo. I hope he was only half joking about it.
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11-28-2009, 10:25 AM
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More greatness.
http://www.nba.com/mavericks/communi...rsonaward.html
All Stars Helping Kids
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All Stars Helping Kids Announces Ten Athletes For 2010 Jefferson Awards For Public Service
World Champions Venus Williams and Lauryn Williams, MLB star Curtis Granderson, NBA All-Stars Dwight Howard and Dirk Nowitzki, NFL star Justin Tuck form core “Dream Team For Public Service” for prestigious Jefferson Award
SAN FRANCISCO (November 23, 2009) – Ronnie Lott, NFL Hall of Famer and founder of All Stars Helping Kids, today announced the ten “Dream Team For Public Service” winners from 53 nominees selected for the Jefferson Awards for Public Service, which will recognize the top athletes who have given back to their community. The ten will be officially recognized in New York City at the third annual Sports Business and Philanthropy Luncheon on Tuesday, December 8. In addition, two top winners will be honored at the national Jefferson Awards ceremony June 22nd in Washington, D.C. Past Jefferson Awards winners include four Supreme Court Justices, seven Secretaries of State; as well as Oprah Winfrey, Alan Greenspan, Peyton Manning, Colin Powell, Lance Armstrong, Barbara Bush and Bill and Melinda Gates.
The ten “Dream Team For Public Service” winners (whose capsule accomplishments are attached) were selected by the prestigious Jefferson Award board and public voting:
· Nnamdi Asomugha (Lafayette, La.) defensive back, Oakland Raiders, NFL
· Curtis Granderson (Chicago, Ill.), all-star outfielder Detroit Tigers, MLB
· Stuart Holden (Houston, Tx.) forward, Houston Dynamo, MLS
· Dwight Howard (Orlando, Fla.), all-star forward, Orlando Magic, NBA
· Dirk Nowitzki (Wurzburg, Germany), all-star forward, Dallas Mavericks, NBA
· Tyrus Thomas (Baton Rouge, La.), forward, Chicago Bulls, NBA
· Justin Tuck (Coosa County, Ala.) all-pro defensive end, New York Giants, NFL
· Lauryn Williams (Rochester, Pa.), Olympian and World Champion sprinter
· Venus Williams (Palm Beach Gardens, Fla.) Olympian and Grand Slam champion, WTA
· Ryan Zimmerman (Washington, N.C.) all-star outfielder, Washington Nationals, MLB
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11-28-2009, 10:30 AM
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Now that is greatness!!
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11-28-2009, 10:33 AM
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Just more proof that Dirk is soft - you don't see Kevin Garnett doing public service for children!
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11-28-2009, 10:35 AM
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Just more proof that Dirk is soft - you don't see Kevin Garnett doing public service for children!
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He probably prefers playing Basketball on Wii or such
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11-28-2009, 11:20 AM
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He probably prefers playing Basketball on Wii or such
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Nah, he is yelling at the Nintendo Support Hotline where the hell the damn taunting button is.
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11-28-2009, 04:15 PM
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Nah, he is yelling at the Nintendo Support Hotline where the hell the damn taunting button is.
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11-28-2009, 05:26 PM
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Nah, he is yelling at the Nintendo Support Hotline where the F**k the taunting button is.
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Kg would put it that way
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11-28-2009, 04:19 PM
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dirk is the f*cking man
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12-03-2009, 12:26 AM
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Dirk is now 36th on the all-time NBA career points list.
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12-03-2009, 01:47 AM
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Dirk is now 36th on the all-time NBA career points list.
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Just sliding up that HOF list.
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12-03-2009, 03:57 PM
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I´m not 100 % sure, but i believe Dallas Mavericks made the CNN world sport " play of the day " for two consecutive days.
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