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MaVs 41 BaLler · 07-22-2010, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

my english is not perfect I konow but I still learn it.Sorry for my all grammar mistake.
chumdawg thanks for translation my words.

ya ya, its all good

Underdog · 07-22-2010, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

my english is not perfect I konow but I still learn it.Sorry for my all grammar mistake.
chumdawg thanks for translation my words.

Funny how your English seems to work just fine when you're lobbing insults at other posters...

41mvp · 07-22-2010, 05:41 AM

Underdog-you are for me stinking s##t

Underdog · 07-22-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 41mvp

Underdog-you are for me stinking s##t

Thanks for proving my point...

(kinda)

DirkFTW · 07-22-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Funny how your English seems to work just fine when you're lobbing insults at other posters...

I think that's the natural progression of learning a foreign language. "Where's the bathroom", "I don't speak English", "#@%$ you", "I was robbed by two men"...

iella · 07-22-2010, 05:07 PM

Good interview of Lin over at sfgate.com. This kid has his head on straight - I think his answers to the racism questions are funny. He always says something along the lines of "Yeah, I'm used to it by now" with the subtle implication of, "Can't you guys come up with more creative questions?" He sure didn't waste time feeling sorry for himself, so why is everyone else discussing the race factor? We all have challenges... the people that rise to the top are the ones that get over them without feeling sorry for themselves.

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Asked to compare himself to an NBA player, he chose Steve Nash's back-up with the Suns, Goran Dragic.
"Neither of us is a freak athlete, but we're both effective and know how to play the game."

Describe your style on the court.
"I'm a playmaker. I'm always attacking the rim and have somewhat of a reckless style. I try to be everywhere at once."

How soon after the draft did you hear from Donnie Nelson with the Mavericks about joining their summer-league team?
"Actually, he called me before the draft ended. Around the fifth to eighth pick, he called me, and I guess he already knew I wasn't going to be drafted."

When did the Warriors first show interest?
"I heard from my agent (Tuesday) around 4 or 5 in the afternoon. We hadn't made a decision yet. I hadn't really heard anything about that because I told my agent I didn't want to hear anything until it was final."

(Agent Roger Montgomery said the Warriors first called him about midway through the summer league, at about the same time the Lakers called.)

Do you feel prepared to play point guard in the NBA?
"I feel like I'm ready to play. I feel like my game is suitable for the NBA style, because I'm a slasher and there's a lot of pick-and-rolls."

Can you can keep up with NBA point guards defensively, especially the quicker ones?
"Yeah, I think being 6-4 with shoes and a pretty decent wingspan, I think I'll be all right."

When you heard from Donnie Nelson that early in the draft about coming to the summer league as an undrafted free agent, were you disappointed? What did you expect on draft night?
"I thought I was going to be a borderline, could potentially, could potentially not get drafted. It was obviously a very disappointing night for me, but looking back, it was the best situation for me, because I was able to be a free agent and to take offers from different teams."

How tough was it to pass on Dallas' offer after their GM was the one who gave you the shot and invited you to summer league?
"Donnie took care of me. He really took care of me. He really, really did. I'm not just saying that. And I'm really thankful to him. I actually am going to call him right after this."

Why do you think Donnie Nelson gave you that chance?
"He has a different type of vision than most people do. I think he saw something inside of me or my game at Portsmouth that he fell in love with. He's been saying consistently that he thought I need some time to develop before I was NBA-ready, but he saw potential in me. So I'm very thankful to him for that."

Some people don't like playing at home because there's so much pressure and attention. What about you?
"I'm just going to play my game and see where that takes me. And I'm not worried about filling shoes or meeting other people's expectations. That's never how I've approached the game."

Did you think you might go to the developmental league this season?
"During the process? Yeah, during the process you think about all the potential options. Overseas, D-League, NBA. ... There were times when that crossed my mind absolutely."

Is that still a possibility?
"It's always a possibility if you don't play well. It's always a possibility that you could get cut or waived. ... But that's not the attitude that I'm going to come into training camp with. I'm going to come in to ready to compete, ready to fight for my time, for my spot on the team."

You've said that you think of yourself as a basketball player more than as an Asian American player. But because you're here and the fan base has so many Asian Americans, do you understand how much impact you'll have?
"I don't think I fully understand it yet, but I think I will later on. I'm getting a glimpse of it right now."

What do you think about the sale of the team and the fact that you might be the first personnel move that involved the new owners?
"Well, I'm very thankful to the new ownership for giving me this opportunity. I know that this wouldn't have happened without their approval. .. In my opinion, I think they're doing a great job."

Stanford's Toby Gerhart ran into some stereotypes about being a white running back. Have you run into any of those things or talked to people about it?
"I actually roomed with Omar Samhan from St. Mary's. He was on Dallas with me. And we have very, very similar stories. Not really recruited out of high school and went on to have a pretty good college career and now we're back in that underdog role. ... So I got to talk to him a lot and he's been real supportive. It's nice to have someone to relate to."

Do you face Ivy League stereotypes?
"I feel like (if you hear) 'an Asian from Harvard,' if you think about that, you're not going to think, 'Oh, a player in the NBA.' I understand that. That's just the way it is."

What was the recruiting situation when you were coming out of high school?
"The Pac-10 schools wanted me to walk-on. The Ivy League schools, Harvard and Brown, were the two ones that really wanted me to go there and play for them. I was deciding mainly between those two conferences. ... I didn't really want to walk-on. I wanted to go somewhere the team wanted me. Not somewhere I'd have to go and potentially not have a spot on the team."

You had to pay the full tuition at Harvard?
"They don't offer athletic scholarships in the Ivy League. There's only financial aid based on need."

What was your grade-point average at Harvard?
Smiling: "My GPA was not a 4.2. That's been the rumor. It's not even possible. My friends have been absolutely killing me about that. I had a 3.1 at Harvard."

bobatundi · 07-23-2010, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

How hard is it to use the right "there"?

I'm guessing Matt Barnes would struggle with it.

"Its official I AM A LOS ANGLES LAKER. I wanna thank u for all ur patients and understanding. This is a dream come true!!! Good lookn Kobe,"

Really, Matt? Patients?

Underdog · 07-23-2010, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bobatundi

I'm guessing Matt Barnes would struggle with it.

"Its official I AM A LOS ANGLES LAKER. I wanna thank u for all ur patients and understanding. This is a dream come true!!! Good lookn Kobe,"

Really, Matt? Patients?

Didn't come up wrong on the spell-check, so it must be right!

Rick41 · 07-23-2010, 10:50 AM

Shawn Marion is another guy who makes me go WTF? when I read a tweet of his.... at least concerning punctuation. (most of the time)

bobatundi · 07-23-2010, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Didn't come up wrong on the spell-check, so it must be right!

It's awesome how spell-check has actually made Americans dumber. It's like Reality TV in that way.

tcat075 · 07-23-2010, 05:23 PM

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It's awesome how spell-check has actually made Americans dumber. It's like Reality TV in that way.

Really? I feel smarter every time I watch a Jersey Shore episode.

SMC0007 · 07-23-2010, 06:19 PM

Jersey Shore starts next Thursday ... I mean. I heard that, from someone.

Underdog · 07-23-2010, 06:22 PM

What the hell is Jersey Shore, a reality show about the Nets' wins?

(I heard they only signed on for 12 episodes... wocka-wocka-wocka!)

DevinHarriswillstart · 07-23-2010, 07:31 PM

Can we move this to the Around the NBA section? I think the mention of Jersey Shore warrants that

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xrobx · 02-04-2012, 11:02 PM

Jeremy Lin with 25 7 and 5 to spark the Knicks win tonight

CadBane · 02-04-2012, 11:12 PM

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Jeremy Lin with 25 7 and 5 to spark the Knicks win tonight

Richie Framm once scored 31 points in a game.

rabbitproof · 02-04-2012, 11:16 PM

DoJo has done so much better.

xrobx · 02-04-2012, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Richie Framm once scored 31 points in a game.

Tony Delk once scored 53 points in a game in 2001. Ask Jason Kidd, he was there. Actually, ask Marion too, they both started on that 2001 suns team

Budapest Maverick · 02-04-2012, 11:21 PM

Lin is a good player, we obviously didn't have room for him, but i didn't understand why nobody gave him a fair chance after that very good summer league, he's a capable backup point guard, not the greatest athlete in the world, and a very poor long range shooter, but he plays his heart out every night, and plays defense. Nothing indicates he'll have a game like that more frequently than once in a blue moon though.

CadBane · 02-04-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

Tony Delk once scored 53 points in a game in 2001. Ask Jason Kidd, he was there. Actually, ask Marion too, they both started on that 2001 suns team

I know. I thought about referencing Delk, but he was actually a solid NBA player (obviously not 50 good, but solid). Framm was a Steve Novak journeyman.

xrobx · 02-04-2012, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

I know. I thought about referencing Delk, but he was actually a solid NBA player (obviously not 50 good, but solid). Framm was a Steve Novak journeyman.

I'm not sure which is more odd, the fact that Delk had 53, or the fact we're starting two players that were starters together 11 years ago

clutch#41 · 02-05-2012, 12:06 AM

on top of this, Lin schooled Dwill in the 4th qtr!!

fluid.forty.one · 02-05-2012, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CadBane

Richie Framm once scored 31 points in a game.

Austin Croshere once scored 34 points in a game.

jthig32 · 02-05-2012, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Budapest Maverick

Lin is a good player, we obviously didn't have room for him, but i didn't understand why nobody gave him a fair chance after that very good summer league, he's a capable backup point guard, not the greatest athlete in the world, and a very poor long range shooter, but he plays his heart out every night, and plays defense. Nothing indicates he'll have a game like that more frequently than once in a blue moon though.

Nobody gave him a fair chance?? The Warriors signed him to a 2 year deal, with the first year guaranteed and the second year partially guaranteed.

Jeremy Lin is the poster boy of why people should not go crazy over Summer League results.

JeffViggiano · 02-05-2012, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Austin Croshere once scored 34 points in a game.

Austin rulezzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

CadBane · 02-05-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Nobody gave him a fair chance?? The Warriors signed him to a 2 year deal, with the first year guaranteed and the second year partially guaranteed.

Jeremy Lin is the poster boy of why people should not go crazy over Summer League results.

This. I wasn't even that wow'ed with Lin in SL.

CadBane · 02-05-2012, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by fluid.forty.one

Austin Croshere once scored 34 points in a game.

Yeah, but Croshere was a big piece on Indy's late 90s, early 00s team. He averaged double digits in two years.

chumdawg · 02-05-2012, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

Nobody gave him a fair chance?? The Warriors signed him to a 2 year deal, with the first year guaranteed and the second year partially guaranteed.

Jeremy Lin is the poster boy of why people should not go crazy over Summer League results.

I think you don't understand the purpose of summer league.

Bayliss · 02-05-2012, 07:02 PM

He'll settle down once people start truly scouting him. When they realize some of his tendencies. Right now, even though he has been in the league, no coach/team has even remotely spent time trying to gameplan him. Once they look at some tape, then he'll come back down.

jthig32 · 02-05-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

I think you don't understand the purpose of summer league.

I'm trying to decide whether I should be insulted by this, as the purpose of Summer League seems rather obvious.

What exactly do I not understand, Mr. Chum?

Before we go any further, please understand that after the 2010 Summer League, there were multiple posters on this board clamoring for the Mavs to give Lin a guaranteed contract, claiming that he was already better than JJ Barea.

chumdawg · 02-05-2012, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

I'm trying to decide whether I should be insulted by this, as the purpose of Summer League seems rather obvious.

What exactly do I not understand, Mr. Chum?

Before we go any further, please understand that after the 2010 Summer League, there were multiple posters on this board clamoring for the Mavs to give Lin a guaranteed contract, claiming that he was already better than JJ Barea.

You seem to be talking about summer league as an audition for rotation spots. It's not that. It's about making rosters. And yes, there is often cause enough to "go crazy," as you put it. As crazy as you can go for the 15th guy on your roster, that is.

Unless, of course, you think that the end guys on the bench are of no importance.

jthig32 · 02-05-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

You seem to be talking about summer league as an audition for rotation spots. It's not that. It's about making rosters. And yes, there is often cause enough to "go crazy," as you put it. As crazy as you can go for the 15th guy on your roster, that is.

Unless, of course, you think that the end guys on the bench are of no importance.

So you agree with me. And yet you seem to be acting like you disagree with me, or that you're teaching me something.

You're awesome.

chumdawg · 02-05-2012, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

So you agree with me. And yet you seem to be acting like you disagree with me, or that you're teaching me something.

You're awesome.

Get rid of the drama. What do you think you said that I agree with?

jthig32 · 02-05-2012, 09:33 PM

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Get rid of the drama. What do you think you said that I agree with?

I was chastising the people that wanted to give Lin a guaranteed contract based on Summer League results. There were people that wanted to see him in the rotation ahead of JJB, and who killed the Mavs for "losing" Lin when Golden State gave him a two year deal.

Summer League is full of terrible, terrible competition. It is very hard to draw concrete results from it. For an undrafted rookie playing in Summer League, you're generally looking for, at BEST, an invite to camp and a make good contract (which is what JJB got, btw).

Saying you think someone should get an invite to camp and could maybe, somehow make a roster is not going crazy. I'm not at all misunderstanding what Summer League is about. I watch it every year - hell I've even paid to watch it before.

chumdawg · 02-05-2012, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

I was chastising the people that wanted to give Lin a guaranteed contract based on Summer League results. There were people that wanted to see him in the rotation ahead of JJB, and who killed the Mavs for "losing" Lin when Golden State gave him a two year deal.

Summer League is full of terrible, terrible competition. It is very hard to draw concrete results from it. For an undrafted rookie playing in Summer League, you're generally looking for, at BEST, an invite to camp and a make good contract (which is what JJB got, btw).

Saying you think someone should get an invite to camp and could maybe, somehow make a roster is not going crazy. I'm not at all misunderstanding what Summer League is about. I watch it every year - hell I've even paid to watch it before.

I've paid to watch it, too. And that underscores my point. It's about trying to find guys who possibly, maybe, could compete. If the whole ordeal is worthless--as in, these guys will never have a chance to contribute to the NBA--then why are guys like you and me paying to watch it?

It does have value (even if you need to recognize that the value is marginal). That's why you shouldn't just dismiss it offhand.

jthig32 · 02-05-2012, 09:44 PM

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I've paid to watch it, too. And that underscores my point. It's about trying to find guys who possibly, maybe, could compete. If the whole ordeal is worthless--as in, these guys will never have a chance to contribute to the NBA--then why are guys like you and me paying to watch it?

It does have value (even if you need to recognize that the value is marginal). That's why you shouldn't just dismiss it offhand.

I didn't dismiss it offhand, and I never said the whole ordeal was worthless. As I said earlier, we agree here.

chumdawg · 02-05-2012, 09:50 PM

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I didn't dismiss it offhand, and I never said the whole ordeal was worthless. As I said earlier, we clearly agree here.

But...did you mean to imply that there was something wrong with giving Lin a contract? I thought it was merited.

b_o_r · 02-05-2012, 09:58 PM

There is a 5 page thread dedicated to Jeremy Lin? A player that never played for Mavericks.

chumdawg · 02-05-2012, 09:59 PM

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There is a 5 page thread dedicated to Jeremy Lin? A player that never played for Mavericks.

Oh, I think he did.

jthig32 · 02-05-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

But...did you mean to imply that there was something wrong with giving Lin a contract? I thought it was merited.

I was completely in favor of bringing Lin into camp with a make good contract. I was even mildly disappointed that GSW signed him.

But there were people on this board that made a big deal out of losing Lin, that wanted the Mavs to give him a guaranteed contract. And as I've said, there were people envisioning him as a rotation player last year, which is crazy.

And Golden State giving him a 1.5 year guaranteed contract before he even got to camp was nuts.