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Old 12-23-2008, 11:39 PM   #1
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Well, that was a solid, steady effort tonight. Sure is nice to bring that kind of defense on a night when the offense takes so long to get going.

The player of game for me was Damp. He absolutely carried the team in the first quarter and was dominant in every phase of the game. Which is why I don't understand why he didn't play in the fourth quarter. Bass scored well down the stretch, but that interior defense was porous in key stretches in my opinion.

Jason Kidd had a nice night and is back to looking involved in the offense.

Singleton brought good energy again tonight. His line doesn't look as nice as it did Sunday, but he was effective. I love the elements he bring to the team as the backup PF.

I've been pretty vocal in my opinion that Wright should be at least sharing time with George. I think Wright guards 2's just as well as George and brings a better flow to the offense when he's playing with confidence. However, when George plays like he did tonight, especially when he rebounds like he did tonight, I have to shut up.

Even when George isn't playing at this level, he does bring more flexibility defensively than Wright. Kidd, Josh and George being on the floor together gives you incredible flixibility defensively. Their transition defense is awesome because they don't have to worry as much about getting caught in mismatches. Same goes for defending pick and rolls.

I thought Josh looked a bit more like himself tonight. He didn't shoot the ball well (neither did Dirk early on) but I thought he had a much more well rounded game tonight. Heck, he made a good pass on the break that led to a Jet three. That's headline news.

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Good win tonight, even though it was against a bad team you deserve credit for an 18 point margin.

All I want for Christmas is 2 wins on this 3 game road trip.
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All I want for Christmas is 2 wins on this 3 game road trip.


No, you want to go 3 for 3.
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I'm sure Damp sat late because he just wasn't needed. They never really threatened to get it close. Carlisle did that the other night too with Dirk and co.

Green/Wright can't even get late/mop up minutes.. Whats up with that? Got to be kidding me. I would love an explanation of some sorts from coach if possible.
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I feel that we can beat the Jazz due to all there injuries.
But a win against the Trailblazers could make a statement and move us up in the standings.

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Green/Wright can't even get late/mop up minutes.. Whats up with that? Got to be kidding me. I would love an explanation of some sorts from coach if possible.

Without a legit excuse from carlisle, i am absolutely livid about that.
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Sadly I think George is a better shooter than Wright, even though George sucks at shooting.
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Sadly I think George is a better shooter than Wright, even though George sucks at shooting.
Even though Wright has actually been known as a good shooter (besides his long range)... we do not necessarily need another good jump shooter. We need someone that is going to take it to the basket on a consistent basis as well as defend well. I think Wright still fits that bill better than George... but the main reason for playing Wright is for the future. He has a lot of potential that is not being developed.

And I really really wish I knew why Green gets thrown to the curb all the time...is he just a straight up ass to deal with or what?

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George is a better shooter than wright.

Gerald Green was inactive tonight. Let's see...

Jkiddo, JJB, Jason, Dirk, Josh, Damp, Diop, Singleton, Bass, ShawneWilliams, Jet, AntoineWright were in uniform.
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I dont' think we want antoine wright to be the focal point of an offense. I think that's why Devean is out there. You want him to be guarded (especially at the 3-pt line) to space the floor. Antoine Wrights guy would be probably hanging in the lane.
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It really makes me INSANE that Wright can't even get on the floor during garbage time.

It would be one thing if the guy had played lousy but he had some good games... and then was never heard from again.

It's insane.

Everyone keeps talking about how Carlisle bases playing time on how people perform in practice... so maybe he just sucks in practice... but if a guy is great in practice but is Devean George on the court... is that really a good policy? In game situations Wright has shown so much promise it would be so stupid to murder him just because he isn't as good in practice. Practice is important but game time is more important.
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Antoine Wrights guy would be probably hanging in the lane.
We certainly wouldn't want any Mavericks shooting from too close to the basket! (sarcasm indicated)
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George is a better shooter than wright.

Gerald Green was inactive tonight. Let's see...

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George is better at just about everything than Wright, except Wright is a better driver/finisher. Oh, and obviously he's a lot younger, too. Although, there is obviously something to be said as to giving guys like Wright time to help develop them and build their confidence--but apparently Rick doesn't think too highly of that.

I hate watching George chunk up 1-10 nights just as much as anyone, but the guy brings a lot to the table besides his scoring.
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2-9 separated by 2.5 games in the west. a slump can doom our beloved Mavs, or a hot stretch can help our seeding positioning.

14-4 in our last 18... I wouldn't mind 14-4 in our next 18!
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It really makes me INSANE that Wright can't even get on the floor during garbage time.

It would be one thing if the guy had played lousy but he had some good games... and then was never heard from again.

It's insane.

Everyone keeps talking about how Carlisle bases playing time on how people perform in practice... so maybe he just sucks in practice... but if a guy is great in practice but is Devean George on the court... is that really a good policy? In game situations Wright has shown so much promise it would be so stupid to murder him just because he isn't as good in practice. Practice is important but game time is more important.
I'm willing to bet it was a disciplinary move by the coach... it's gotta be.
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2-9 separated by 2.5 games in the west. a slump can doom our beloved Mavs, or a hot stretch can help our seeding positioning.

14-4 in our last 18... I wouldn't mind 14-4 in our next 18!
All we gotta do is maintain this pace and we're sure to have the #2 spot @ .667 provided all other west teams maintain their w/l pace.

And who knows, maybe the lakers can get caught slipping and relinquish that #1 spot. I'm sure other teams are studying that heat/laker game to see how to dethrone em.
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George is better at just about everything than Wright, except Wright is a better driver/finisher. Oh, and obviously he's a lot younger, too. Although, there is obviously something to be said as to giving guys like Wright time to help develop them and build their confidence--but apparently Rick doesn't think too highly of that.

I hate watching George chunk up 1-10 nights just as much as anyone, but the guy brings a lot to the table besides his scoring.
The problem is the numbers show that the offense runs much more smoothly with Wright on the floor. Now that could just be an aberration (and we'll probably never know based on Wright's recent playing time). But right now Wright has the best on floor offensive effeciency on the team. Even conceding that some of that is an aberration, the offense clearly performs well with him on the floor despite his poor outside shooting.

However, the floor time stats are finally starting to show George having the positive affect on the defense that you would expect. As long as that keeps up and he rebounds at least a little, I don't have a problem with him playing over Wright.
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easy win, #7 in the West now!
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George's ability to guard multiple positions and size as well as his ability to hit the corner three make him a better fit than either Wright or Green at this point. The Mavs need to make a trade, but if they don't it's looking to me like Devean George is your best bet as the starting SG.

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Huge game on Christmas day. Hopefully we can take advantage of a still young team in a big game. #1 rebounding team vs. #2 rebounding team, should be interesting to say the least.
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We just need to impose our will on them and keep Roy under 25pts.

I like Jho at the SG.
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I think josh has become our sg...now we need to find a sforward??
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Either way. Maybe he takes it upon himself to attack the cup more at the 2..

All I know is that if we score more points than Portland we should win. Right?

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I think josh has become our sg...now we need to find a sforward??
Lebron?
Pay Dirk 600,000 in 2010 and bring in lebron.

Blazers won yesterday....against the Nuggets, this one i going to be a tough one for sure.
Also what Carlislie is probably doing is not giving them minutes so they could only put it on themselves to perform better.

Man I love'd seeing Green on the court. But If we bring him in now it will mess up our chemistry.
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I think Mavs will be in 6th if they take care of Portland on X-mas. Not bad at all.

EDIT: And only 1 game behind San Antonio.
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The problem is the numbers show that the offense runs much more smoothly with Wright on the floor. Now that could just be an aberration (and we'll probably never know based on Wright's recent playing time). But right now Wright has the best on floor offensive effeciency on the team. Even conceding that some of that is an aberration, the offense clearly performs well with him on the floor despite his poor outside shooting.
I don't think it's an aberration. He actually fits in quite well out there, despite his crappy shooting. Personally, I do wish Carlisle would play Wright more. I think he could be a nice player for us. But I do understand why he goes to George so much, despite his usual inability to hit the broad side of a barn.
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I don't think it's an aberration. He actually fits in quite well out there, despite his crappy shooting. Personally, I do wish Carlisle would play Wright more. I think he could be a nice player for us. But I do understand why he goes to George so much, despite his usual inability to hit the broad side of a barn.
At the very least, Wright can't possibly clog up the offense more than George.
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Everyone keeps talking about how Carlisle bases playing time on how people perform in practice... so maybe he just sucks in practice... but if a guy is great in practice but is Devean George on the court... is that really a good policy? In game situations Wright has shown so much promise it would be so stupid to murder him just because he isn't as good in practice. Practice is important but game time is more important.
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I hate when Mavs guys are Devean George on the court.
I'm all for random Devean George hate, but he has been playing relatively well recently.
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