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mcsluggo · 08-25-2009, 11:43 AM

ok... the time draws nigh...

How do your teams look?

i am in a keeper league, where you are allowed to keep eight players (I know... too many). Our scoring is pure points scored (although you get extra for long scores, and for scores "out of position" ... ie for a QB that runs it in, or a WR that throws a td... etc..), because this league has been around for 25 years, and in the PRE-internet days, you actually had to compute this crap by hand, using the stats page on the back of the WaPo, or NYTimes!

.....before the internet... shudder.... !!

Anyway, I am fairly well set up everywhere but QB

currently I have

RB:
Forte
Ronnie Brown
Lendale White
Johnathan Stewart

I Plan on keeping all of my running backs

WR:
Andre Johnson
Randy Moss
Cotchery
Marvin Harrison

(I will keep Johnson and Moss)

TE:
Witten
Cooley

(I will keep both TEs)

QB:
Eli Manning
Brady Quinn

(I am going to dump both QBs)

Kickers:
Crosby
Scobee

(who cares about kickers)

BEFORE teams drop their unprotected players, the following QBs were available:

Cassel, Matt
McNabb, Donovan
Hasselbeck, Matt QB SEA
Hill, Shaun
Pennington, Chad
Garrard, David
Russell, JaMarcus
Collins, Kerry

and of course, the rookies:
Sanchez, Mark QB NYJ
Stafford, Matthew QB DET

I am going to pick up cassel, mcnab, hasselback or hill (or eli) as a dull, but semi-dependable starter, and one of the rookies hoping for a home run

who should I take? who is going to score points? (they can ALSO throw all the interceptions they want, and lose, for all I care... as long as they gun out some TDs)

Underdog · 08-25-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mcsluggo

Cassel, Matt
McNabb, Donovan
Hasselbeck, Matt QB SEA
Hill, Shaun
Pennington, Chad
Garrard, David
Russell, JaMarcus
Collins, Kerry

and of course, the rookies:
Sanchez, Mark QB NYJ
Stafford, Matthew QB DET

I'd pick them in this order:

McNabb, Cassel - both top-10 potential, really the only shoe-in starters on this list

Garrard - should bounce back from last season, especially if Holt has something left in the tank, but only a borderline #1 QB

Hill - good sleeper potential, especially if Crabtree gets his contract settled sooner rather than later

Hasselbeck - huge injury risk (not sure if I trust him yet), but a lot more valuable this season with Housh on the roster

Stafford - super sleeper potential - Detroit improved their o-line and Megatron can catch anything thrown in the same zip code

Russell - should be better than last season, but you definitely don't want him as your starter (should have decent sleeper potential as a #2 though)

Pennington - won't be the starting QB for much longer - Henne is breathing down his neck (kinda feel sorry for the guy after what he gave the 'Fins last season)

Sanchez - the Jets offense is still in disarray - uncertainty at the WR positions paired with the fact he's only a rookie makes him a longshot sleeper...

Collins - this bus driver hasn't retired yet?

mcsluggo · 08-25-2009, 04:00 PM

for sanchez/stafford/russell... i would be more concerned with down the road than this year. It is a keeper league, and usually the only way you can get a real star is to latch on to them early. So even if the Jets/lions/raiders blow chunks THIS year... payout next year?

on the other hand, i held onto eli the dolt for years hoping he would grow some consistency... he pisses me off!

mcsluggo · 08-25-2009, 04:01 PM

i also held onto Vince Young for two years....

chumdawg · 08-26-2009, 01:27 AM

Lendale White is the sticking point on the keepers. I see no reason to keep him. I'd look into Bradshaw from the Giants and Davis from the Browns...in a keeper league, especially. But even in a non-keeper league, I can't imagine taking Lendale White that high.

I also wouldn't keep Cooley, unless your league had nuts settings.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 08-26-2009, 08:02 AM

This should be the Fantasy Football Questionaire thread.

Ok in another league I've got going who should I start when Week 1 rolls around, Larry Johnson @ Baltimore, Joseph Addai in Indy vs Jac, or Felix Jones @ Tampa Bay.
I can only pick one.

I got Brees, Jennings, Witten, Westbrook and Housh on my team in that league. Schaub is my other QB. (I set it up just like the dallas-mavs one, 2 qbs start 1 ppr) I got all them picking last (10th) the first overall pick was Eli Manning ROFLMAO (some Giants homer, he also used his 3rd pick on Crabtree.)

I like my team but after Westbrook my Rbs are not all that impressive unless Felix really breaks out this year. (possible)

Underdog · 08-26-2009, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

This should be the Fantasy Football Questionaire thread.

Ok in another league I've got going who should I start when Week 1 rolls around, Larry Johnson @ Baltimore, Joseph Addai in Indy vs Jac, or Felix Jones @ Tampa Bay.
I can only pick one.

I got Brees, Jennings, Witten, Westbrook and Housh on my team in that league. Schaub is my other QB. (I set it up just like the dallas-mavs one, 2 qbs start 1 ppr) I got all them picking last (10th) the first overall pick was Eli Manning ROFLMAO (some Giants homer, he also used his 3rd pick on Crabtree.)

I like my team but after Westbrook my Rbs are not all that impressive unless Felix really breaks out this year. (possible)

Is it a standard league? If so, I'd roll with:

QB: Brees
RB: Westbrook
RB: Addai
RB/WR: Felix
WR: Jennings
WR: Housh
TE: Witten

LJ is a bit shaky as it is (he has yet to actually win the starting job over Jamaal Charles), but Baltimore's run defense is the biggest reason to sit him out...

I really don't understand why everyone is so down on Addai - he was hurt last season, but it's not like the guy has a history of being injured... Plus, he's looked sharp enough this preseason to cool off the Donald Brown talk in Indy - looks like it'll be about a 70/30 split in favor of Addai early on... He should be good for 1000+ yds and 7-10 TDs this season - start with confidence!

Felix should be a good option at the flex - I have a feeling he's going to hit the ground running this season (no pun intended), and even though Tampa's defense is good against the run, they really can't account for someone with his explosiveness...

mcsluggo · 08-26-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

Lendale White is the sticking point on the keepers. I see no reason to keep him. I'd look into Bradshaw from the Giants and Davis from the Browns...in a keeper league, especially. But even in a non-keeper league, I can't imagine taking Lendale White that high.

I also wouldn't keep Cooley, unless your league had nuts settings.

Lendale scored 15 TDs last year, those short yardage, pound it in to the endzone RBs are golden in our league because it gives ZERO credit for yards, tds are the only thing that matters.

as far as cooley, he is one of the few TEs that is generally worth anything. in this league we start

1 QB
2 RB
2 WR
1 TE
1 K
1 D/special teams

(remembering that only points matter, so for instance, a good strong stingy D that typically causes 3-and-outs all game-- like they are supposed to-- is worse than a porous gambling D that always goes for the home run turnover, taken back for the score)

anyway, for most teams, the TE spot is a complete waste of roster space. But if you have Witten, Gonzalez or Cooley, you essentially have 3 WR that might get you points. It is good to have 2 of the top 3 players in a position, if for no other reason than to keep them off the field elsewhere.

unlike most leagues (where RB is the most important position) in this league QB is by far the most important. and it is the area where my team sucks ass.

mcsluggo · 08-26-2009, 01:52 PM

besides, I there is nobody up there that I am dropping that would be better to keep than lendale or cooley------ i MIGHT consider keeping Ely over Cooley... but i am so sick of ely. He has been fantasy flatulence for me lo these many years

chumdawg · 08-26-2009, 02:52 PM

Given your settings, that makes perfect sense.

MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs · 08-26-2009, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Is it a standard league? If so, I'd roll with:

QB: Brees
RB: Westbrook
RB: Addai
RB/WR: Felix
WR: Jennings
WR: Housh
TE: Witten

It's the exact same settings as our league here, I'm the League owner. So both Brees and Shaub will start, 1 ppr etc....

I have Santana Moss in the flex position now (failed to mention that before) Would you still put Felix over Moss at the flex?

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I really don't understand why everyone is so down on Addai - he was hurt last season, but it's not like the guy has a history of being injured... Plus, he's looked sharp enough this preseason to cool off the Donald Brown talk in Indy - looks like it'll be about a 70/30 split in favor of Addai early on... He should be good for 1000+ yds and 7-10 TDs this season - start with confidence!

Colts offensive line sucks compared to what it used to be. That said though I'm gonna give Addai a shot.

Underdog · 08-26-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

I have Santana Moss in the flex position now (failed to mention that before) Would you still put Felix over Moss at the flex?

I can't trust any of Jason Campbell's WR's in fantasy, but Moss will probably score more consistently than Felix in a PPR league (although Felix has much more upside...)

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Originally Posted by MavsWiLLHaVeRinGs

Colts offensive line sucks compared to what it used to be. That said though I'm gonna give Addai a shot.

I think Addai is going to surprise people this season as much as he did last season, but in the opposite way... Every fantasy analyst I've read lists him as an "injury risk" but the guy has only missed FIVE games in his entire career! Donald Brown is good, but Addai is healthy and still getting paid starter money (that still means something in the NFL...)

mcsluggo · 09-08-2009, 10:10 AM

OK, I ended up with:

QB:
Hasselback
Sanchez
(I am not at all happy here)

RB:
Forte
Ronnie Brown
Lendale White
Johnathan Stewart
(these are solid)

WR:
Andre Johnson
Randy Moss
Vince Jackson
Chris Henry
(these are good as well, easily best wideout corps in my league)

TE:
Witten
Cooley
(Also probably the best pair of ends in the league)

Kickers:
Kasey
Tynes
(who cares about kickers)

D/ST
Steelers
Texans
(who cares about D or special teams)

I picked 9th (second to last) and there was a surprising run on QBs in the first round. I am not at all happy with my QBs... we are only allowed 3 roster moves through the season (with freebies for players sent to the IR... but you can't hold those players over to next year) I am sure I will flip my QBs three times.

good luck everyone else.

chumdawg · 09-08-2009, 02:50 PM

I picked 9th as well, in a 10-team league. Standard scoring except that we count half a point per reception:

QB
Warner
Cassell

RB
Jones-Drew
Jacobs
Barber
Sproles

WR
Fitzy
Roy Williams
Eddie Royal
Braylon Edwards
Coles
Hixon

TE
Shiancoe

The first three or four rounds fell to me really well, and it got a bit dicey from there. There are things to like about my team, but big concerns as well.

Flacolaco · 09-08-2009, 02:56 PM

You got Jones-Drew at 9th?

chumdawg · 09-08-2009, 02:59 PM

Yes. I was quite surprised that he slid to me, but folks were reaching like crazy.

I took Fitzy at 11, then Jacobs and Barber the next time it came around. Then Warner and Eddie Royal.

jthig32 · 09-08-2009, 03:06 PM

MJD 9th in any kind of PPR league is criminal. MJD is arguably the top pick with PPR involved. Certainly no lower than third.