The first Trade for Mavericks this summer

[vashjan]

Call New York Knicks and do this...read on


Donnie Walsh is not ruling out the possibility of trading their first overall pick, which would be a way for the Knicks to rid themselves of large a contract.

Walsh will try to package the pick with either Zach Randolph or Eddy Curry, which would create cap space for the summer of 2010 when LeBron James and Dwyane Wade become free agents. [READ]

Zach Randolph + 1 pick

2008/09 $14,666,666

2009/10 $16,000,000

2010/11 $17,333,333

for

Josh Howard + Jerry Stackhouse

$9,945,000 + $7,000,000

$10,890,000 + $2,000,000

[Kidd Karma]

Isn't this guy a headache.

[Underdog]

Can we turn around & trade Randolph, or is that against some rule?

[LonghornDub]

Any trade with the Knicks for any player other than David Lee or Crawford is not something I'm interested in.

[seelenjaeger]

Of course you can trade on Randolph ... I think after 90 days (if in a package) or straight up if it´s him only (instantly).

Then again, if we manage to field offers for Randolph, why shouldnt the Knicks get some? Not too sure they have much use for Howard.

[ghazi]

Zach Randolph sucks, bad. We're in win now mode.

[fluid.forty.one]

dont se have a trade forum?

[Jack of Arcades]

Originally Posted by ProdigyDub

Any trade with the Knicks for any player other than David Lee or Crawford is not something I'm interested in.

David Lee yes.
Jamal Crawford I'm a little iffy about. I'm not sure he's an upgrade.

[sike]

I used to think that Randolph could be redeemed...then I opened my eyes.

Amazing talent from the block to 15ft...but he is the epitome of a "knucklehead".

[LSMF]

Can't we get Curry instead?, even though he's fat and lazy at least he can score in the paint

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by longsufferingmavsfan

Can't we get Curry instead?, even though he's fat and lazy at least he can score in the paint

True...would be a good contrast if Diop comes back.

[sike]

Originally Posted by longsufferingmavsfan

Can't we get Curry instead?, even though he's fat and lazy at least he can score in the paint

Curry and Carlisle = Oil and Water

[BGMaverick9]

Z-Bo? No thanks.
David Lee would be awesome, always like his energy and motor.

But that ain't happening.

[LSMF]

Originally Posted by sike

Curry and Carlisle = Oil and Water

But we could get the #6 pick! Can you imagine O.J.Mayo(??) in Dallas! Its very possible, if Curry's D is that bad then he can enjoy the bench.

[seelenjaeger]

Hmm, actually the way the Lottery worked I guess you can make a pretty solid three way out of that ...

Something like that:

Chicago gets Zach Randolph (and uses it´s first overall to get that PG guy Rose) and Stack

New York gets Hinrich and Howard

We get #6, David Lee, and a combo of Chicago guys (Tyus Thomas, Ben Gordon, and something so that the salary adds up).

This trade basically combines the idea of us getting Zach Randolph and #6 for Howard and Stack, the Chicago need so slim its roster and BOTH adding veteran leadership and filling the PF and PG slots and us trading for depth and talent.

I haven´t looked into the numbers too deep, but getting 4 or 5 guys with some upside (Thomas, Lee, #6 and another guy out of the Chicago talent pool) for 2 to bolster our rotation sounds damn fine to me.

After cracking some numbers, something like that might actually work:

mavs trade:
howard, stackhouse

get
curry, lee, thomas, one out of gordon/deng, (duhon?), #6

chicago trades
hinrich, thomas, one out of gordon/deng, (duhon?)

get
randolph, stackhouse

new york trades
randolph, curry, lee, #6

get
howard, hinrich
´
So we´d end up with Curry, and our roster would be something like that:

Damp, Curry
Dirk, Bass, Ty Thomas
Lee, (Deng)
Terry, Jones
Kidd, (Duhon)

and #6, either Gordon or Deng, maybe Duhon, the MLE guy and Terry / Seibutis.

If we can get Pietrus for the MLE and add a veteran PG that´s a team to go to war with imho.

[Eman]

Zach Randolph and the #6 (ERic Gordon) for Josh and Stack???? Great trade.

Zach is a 20/10 guy who can play 4 or 5 and score inside and out. Gordon could be the answer at shooting guard. We sign Miles and Diop for the MLE and we have

Randolph/Damp/Diop
Dirk/Randolph/Bass
CJ Miles/Dirk/Bass
Eric Gordon/Terry/Miles
Kidd/Terry

WOW!!!!! 4 guys that can score in the starting lineup! (CJ Miles hits 0.390 from 3), Defensive presence from Kidd/Damp/Diop/Miles

Rebounding------Randolph gets 10 boards a game!!!!!!josh only got 7

A lineup of Damp/Randolph/Dirk/Miles/Kidd would outrebound everyone!


A lineup of Randolph/Bass/Dirk/Gordon/Terry could outshoot ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE!

We would have an immense amount of options!

[seelenjaeger]

Originally Posted by Eman

A lineup of Randolph/Bass/Dirk/Gordon/Terry could outshoot ABSOLUTELY EVERYONE!

We would have an immense amount of options!

I don´t think the Mavs lockerroom is big enough for Randolphs Knucklehead, and he cannot play the C.

[nashtymavsfan13]

If we are trading Jho and Stack and getting WORSE bball IQ wise, it is not a good trade. Randolph would be a horrible fit.

[seelenjaeger]

Originally Posted by nashtymavsfan13

If we are trading Jho and Stack and getting WORSE bball IQ wise, it is not a good trade. Randolph would be a horrible fit.

That´s why I´d love to get #6, Curry (gulp, but we have to take some) and a 2-year resigned Deng or Gordon along with Lee for Howard and Stack, but that might be a fantasy trade ...

[SeriousSummer]

I'd do the original deal, which might be possible. I think the other proposals are too oppotimistic to really happen (although the Gasol deal showed that you never know).

[nikeball]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

True...would be a good contrast if Diop comes back.

WTF? is one of them Albino?

[MavsX]

no way those trades happen. If they do. i eat my shoe

[Thespiralgoeson]

Randolph? Good god, no thanks.

[ghazi]

I do believe the Mavericks are still trying to win a championship. And in no universe is Zach Randolph a missing piece of a championship puzzle.

[horse900703]

um..trade time~~~

[belgianfan]

Originally Posted by seelenjaeger

Hmm, actually the way the Lottery worked I guess you can make a pretty solid three way out of that ...

Something like that:

Chicago gets Zach Randolph (and uses it´s first overall to get that PG guy Rose) and Stack

New York gets Hinrich and Howard

We get #6, David Lee, and a combo of Chicago guys (Tyus Thomas, Ben Gordon, and something so that the salary adds up).

This trade basically combines the idea of us getting Zach Randolph and #6 for Howard and Stack, the Chicago need so slim its roster and BOTH adding veteran leadership and filling the PF and PG slots and us trading for depth and talent.

I haven´t looked into the numbers too deep, but getting 4 or 5 guys with some upside (Thomas, Lee, #6 and another guy out of the Chicago talent pool) for 2 to bolster our rotation sounds damn fine to me.

After cracking some numbers, something like that might actually work:

mavs trade:
howard, stackhouse

get
curry, lee, thomas, one out of gordon/deng, (duhon?), #6

chicago trades
hinrich, thomas, one out of gordon/deng, (duhon?)

get
randolph, stackhouse

new york trades
randolph, curry, lee, #6

get
howard, hinrich´
So we´d end up with Curry, and our roster would be something like that:

Damp, Curry
Dirk, Bass, Ty Thomas
Lee, (Deng)
Terry, Jones
Kidd, (Duhon)

and #6, either Gordon or Deng, maybe Duhon, the MLE guy and Terry / Seibutis.

If we can get Pietrus for the MLE and add a veteran PG that´s a team to go to war with imho.

NY really isn't that stupid...

[seelenjaeger]

turning two bad contracts, a number #6 pick and a guy who seems to have no future in NY into an all star and an Team America PG?

i´ve seen worse trades happening ... i doublt chicago would do it

[nowhereman]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvYf08X6tc