Mein Drumpf

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

His numbers are 2% higher than they were when Covid hit. I don't think his Covid response has any appreciable impact on his base's support of him.

Political polls means very little. Thought most people learned that from 2016 when Hillary had a 90% chance of winning the election. And his base will support him no matter what. The undecideds however are the ones who determine elections.

Trump would run away with the election had it not been for covid. And of course, he still might win sadly.

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Political polls means very little. Thought most people learned that from 2016 when Hillary had a 90% chance of winning the election. And his base will support him no matter what. The undecideds however are the ones who determine elections.

Trump would run away with the election had it not been for covid. And of course, he still might win sadly.

I mean I'm looking at both likely voters and overall approval, but you're right. There is a zero percent chance that he wins popular vote (if all polls were accurate he'd lose by between 5-10million votes), but the chance that Trump repeats is probably 50-50 because of the electoral votes.

That's why this election feels awful. There's a good chance that Trump will win the election after losing by 8 million votes and even if he loses, he may refuse to step down and will attempt a coup or at least a tantrum.

Democracy is definitely dying.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Welp, Michael Moore wholeheartedly agrees with you in his new emergency podcast. And I'm not saying that Trump isn't the biggest liar on the planet.

But I still don't think "catching" Covid is the way to do it. Trump needs desperately to avoid Covid talk at all costs even if the polls don't reflect it. It's still an insanely negative topic and tragedy under his watch that he still isn't doing anything about.

[sefant77]

So Gov. Abbott pulling off nice voter subpression. And i thought Ted Cruz is the biggest ass in the state...

[tap2390]

I hope he doesn't die but only because he deserves to die in prison.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Perhaps all of these high profile Republicans are "getting" Covid to scare people into not showing up to vote?

[FreshJive]

In September, 44 percent of Republicans and 41 percent of Democrats said there would be at least “a little” justification for violence if the other party’s nominee wins the election. Those figures are both up from June, when 35 percent of Republicans and 37 percent of Democrats expressed the same sentiment.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...iolence-424157

Settle down Beavis

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Militia groups trying to kidnap a governor but are too stupid to do so? If that isn't Trump's America in a nutshell, then I don't know what is.

[sefant77]

[DevinHarriswillstart]

I saw the cheaters tried to get 100K votes thrown out in Texas. DENIED!

[sefant77]

Your entire election process is worse than in a lot of shithole countries.

[sefant77]

Maybe for some of the republicans here...

https://twitter.com/maxjoseph/status...87900054675456

[EricaLubarsky]

Is it normal for a president to say that they'll declare victory before the votes are even fully counted?

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Is it normal for a president to say that they'll declare victory before the votes are even fully counted?

Four years you're still surprised by this stuff?

[sefant77]

Yes but its mostly dictators who also undermined a democratic election process

[sefant77]

What a dictator speech

[FreshJive]

Lol. The Dems forced their worst candidate upon us. This shit was predictable. I predicted it earlier in this thread, and I’m retarded. Biden could still win, but Trump was trying to lose.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

Lol. The Dems forced their worst candidate upon us. This shit was predictable. I predicted it earlier in this thread, and I’m retarded. Biden could still win, but Trump was trying to lose.

People don't tend to vote for candidates they aren't excited for. If Trump wins, then at least we can get rid of the center of the Democratic party as they have failed miserably. Karma is a b after what they did to Bernie...

But the media in this country is also such a joke that I don't know how any of the big papers survive either other than constant Covid fear news. Weeks of Biden is up by 8 points dog shit which any sane person knew was wrong. Name one legit outlet that said Trump was going to win? You know what that does? It has a serious reverse effect.

And lastly, we're just a country full of really, really dumb people. Honestly, I don't even care who wins. This country gets what it deserves. Bernie is the guy we needed but not the one we deserved.

[tap2390]

Fuck me this is disheartening. Can’t believe this is my country. Can’t believe people can’t or won’t see Trump for what he is. My wife is pregnant and I’m legit scared to bring a brown baby into what I now know to be clearly a white man’s world.

[Scoobay]

Originally Posted by tap2390

Fuck me this is disheartening. Can’t believe this is my country. Can’t believe people can’t or won’t see Trump for what he is. My wife is pregnant and I’m legit scared to bring a brown baby into what I now know to be clearly a white man’s world.

congratulations on expecting a baby! all the same i can't begin to imagine the fear you're expressing... what should be a time full of joy and hope is intermingled with concern that goes beyond what should be normal for a parent. take care brother

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by tap2390

Fuck me this is disheartening. Can’t believe this is my country. Can’t believe people can’t or won’t see Trump for what he is. My wife is pregnant and I’m legit scared to bring a brown baby into what I now know to be clearly a white man’s world.

Everything I’ve seen says that Trump lost white male support relative to 2016, and gained support among all other demographics. The gain in Latino support in Texas is the reason the state didn’t flip blue.

[FreshJive]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

People don't tend to vote for candidates they aren't excited for. If Trump wins, then at least we can get rid of the center of the Democratic party as they have failed miserably. Karma is a b after what they did to Bernie...

But the media in this country is also such a joke that I don't know how any of the big papers survive either other than constant Covid fear news. Weeks of Biden is up by 8 points dog shit which any sane person knew was wrong. Name one legit outlet that said Trump was going to win? You know what that does? It has a serious reverse effect.

And lastly, we're just a country full of really, really dumb people. Honestly, I don't even care who wins. This country gets what it deserves. Bernie is the guy we needed but not the one we deserved.

The Dems thought they could win by just being not Trump. They still may end up being right, but they made this needlessly close.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by FreshJive

The Dems thought they could win by just being not Trump. They still may end up being right, but they made this needlessly close.

Yep. Two types of voters. Ones that vote for a candidate because they aren't the other candidate and ones that vote for a candidate because they like them. Trump has both of those and Biden only has one.

Did anyone vote for Biden because they really liked him? Nope. He wasn't Bernie or Trump.

[EricaLubarsky]

So Trump is calling to stop counting early ballots-- people who voted weeks and months ago

However, if the election was called now
1) Trump loses the popular vote by almost 2 million
2) Trump loses the electoral college of all called states (238-213)
3) Trump loses the electoral college of states currently being counted (270-267)

Also NYT is giving GA and PA a 60%+ chance of flipping and going Biden by the end of the count because of where the ballots that need to be counted are.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

So Trump is calling to stop counting early ballots-- people who voted weeks and months ago

However, if the election was called now
1) Trump loses the popular vote by almost 2 million
2) Trump loses the electoral college of all called states (238-213)
3) Trump loses the electoral college of states currently being counted (270-267)

Also NYT is giving GA and PA a 60%+ chance of flipping and going Biden by the end of the count because of where the ballots that need to be counted are.

No Biden still likely wins, but it's still rather depressing yet somehow not shocking that Trump did as well as he did.

Arizona is the big news IMO (where you live right?). Hasn't been blue since 1996.

[sefant77]

So the Reps really tried to rig battlegrounds with help of the Postal Service...

[sefant77]

I have no Idea how you can defend all this obv garbage as Trump voter

https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/st...142857216?s=19

[sefant77]

[DevinHarriswillstart]

None of this is making sense as to why Trump and his supporters want the vote count to stop. If they stop counting now, then Biden wins. It's a simple as that. Biden is up in Nevada and has 275 at that point.

What am I missing here?

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

None of this is making sense as to why Trump and his supporters want the vote count to stop. If they stop counting now, then Biden wins. It's a simple as that. Biden is up in Nevada and has 275 at that point.

What am I missing here?

They want it to stop where he is still leading and to resume where he is trailing. Because they give a shit for democracy, the integrity of an election and a result of an election that they dont like or want. Thats all you need to know

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...71145735491586

[sefant77]

"What a sad night for the people in America. [...] Lies, and lies, and lies. [...] When he wins a state, it's legitimate, when he loses, the vote is being stolen from him."

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally Posted by sefant77

"What a sad night for the people in America. [...] Lies, and lies, and lies. [...] When he wins a state, it's legitimate, when he loses, the vote is being stolen from him."

To be fair, he even whined when he won the electoral college and lost the popular vote by 3million votes.

Now he's losing by 4.2million and he can't handle it.

[sefant77]

Its not just the lies, the just undermined the entire democratic process. Freaking dangerous for the future of the country

[DevinHarriswillstart]

The man is literally insane. I mean, I knew he was unhinged, but he really is just absolutely nuts. Thing is that he would have done this even if he lost by a landslide.

[sefant77]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

The man is literally insane. I mean, I knew he was unhinged, but he really is just absolutely nuts. Thing is that he would have done this even if he lost by a landslide.

And at least 50 mio people are going to believe everything he just said.

[EricaLubarsky]

Is he actually insane? Was he drugged?

That press conference was insane. I've never seen something like it.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

[EricaLubarsky]

We'll see how Trump takes losing...

[sefant77]

Time to hide the nuclear Football until january

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Still think this will end peacefully?

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/stat...26501222719489