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bobatundi · 02-23-2010, 01:20 PM

So much for playing the last half of the season like a "contract year." Now he's an oft-injured headcase who will be coming off reconstructive surgery. Definitely sounds like a candidate for a one-year, vet minimum, make-good contract with somebody. (Maybe the Knicks?)

EricaLubarsky · 02-24-2010, 03:08 AM

So....we are super sad about Hump leaving, eh?

Last 4 games
2.3ppg, 3rpg, 1.7TOpg on 1-7 shooting

Jon Avalon · 02-26-2010, 11:21 PM

lol Gooden takes down Lopez via frustration

Kinda miss him now, wish he was bought out. Could sure use that extra toughness.

Mavericks Rockets Fan · 02-26-2010, 11:47 PM

Brooks, Martin, and Scola all with 30+ points as Rockets beat Spurs...

Windmill360 · 02-27-2010, 12:33 AM

Utah Loss.

mavs777 · 02-27-2010, 01:33 AM

Dallas moves into third with Utah loss

GermanDunk · 02-27-2010, 03:21 PM

The New Jersey Devins are kicking the crap out of the Celtics.

LonghornDub · 02-27-2010, 03:35 PM

Yeah, who had the Nets winning at Boston today? Anyone?

spreedom · 02-27-2010, 03:51 PM

The buyout deadline is tomorrow, right? Maybe there's still time for Drew. Imagine our depth up front if we got Gooden back and Dampier returns healthy. Look out world.

Otherwise I'd imagine we're a strong contender for any other buyout players, though I don't expect much quality to be out there. No Larry Hughes, please.

dirno2000 · 02-27-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spreedom

The buyout deadline is tomorrow, right? Maybe there's still time for Drew. Imagine our depth up front if we got Gooden back and Dampier returns healthy. Look out world.

Otherwise I'd imagine we're a strong contender for any other buyout players, though I don't expect much quality to be out there. No Larry Hughes, please.

The deadline was Thursday.

spreedom · 02-27-2010, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

The deadline was Thursday.

D'oh!

EricaLubarsky · 02-27-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Yeah, who had the Nets winning at Boston today? Anyone?

I wish I did...in Vegas! Man what would those odds have been?

It just goes to show you-- no matter how good you are, if you get lazy and you think you can play defense with your hands, you WILL lose. Boston shoots 50%, and wins the rebound battle by 6, but allows 41 FTs. I'm sure Boston fans are whining about the reffing, but the Celts flat out didnt move their feet.

EricaLubarsky · 02-27-2010, 09:58 PM

Man with 6'6" Chuck Hayes playing center, the Rockets are HORRID defensively. Martin is burning up the net on offense, but they are allowing 80% shooting for the HALF. I was so hoping the little Bottlerockets could work Utah for us, but they just have no defense at all.

mary · 02-27-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I wish I did...in Vegas! Man what would those odds have been?

It just goes to show you-- no matter how good you are, if you get lazy and you think you can play defense with your hands, you WILL lose. Boston shoots 50%, and wins the rebound battle by 6, but allows 41 FTs. I'm sure Boston fans are whining about the reffing, but the Celts flat out didnt move their feet.

They were 10.5 point underdogs at +400.

So a $ 100 bet would've netted you $ 400 bucks!

jthig32 · 02-27-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirno2000

The deadline was Thursday.

I thought DLord corrected himself on that. The rule is that they can't be on a roster. They don't have to clear waivers first, I don't think.

Dirkadirkastan · 02-27-2010, 11:02 PM

It's nice to know that the Mavs will win any tiebreaker for the #3 seed, assuming the top four are the Lakers, Mavs, Nuggets and Jazz. Division winner beats out any other tiebreaker.

dirno2000 · 02-27-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jthig32

I thought DLord corrected himself on that. The rule is that they can't be on a roster. They don't have to clear waivers first, I don't think.

Oh ok. I missed the correction.

monty55555 · 02-27-2010, 11:33 PM

Alright, so Utah won tonight. Dallas is still 3rd and Utah is 4th. They both have the same record. Can someone please explain why we're 3rd and Utah is 4th? I mean, which do they go by since Dallas and Utah belong in different divisions? Is it conference record?

Sorry if this is a very basic question. I'm a little confused right now.

Thanks!

monty55555 · 02-27-2010, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

It's nice to know that the Mavs will win any tiebreaker for the #3 seed, assuming the top four are the Lakers, Mavs, Nuggets and Jazz. Division winner beats out any other tiebreaker.

Sorry I didn't read this before my post above. Is this the answer to my question?

Meaning, since Dallas has a better SW division record versus Utah's NW division, Dallas is 3rd and Utah is 4th (while having the same overall record)?

EricaLubarsky · 02-27-2010, 11:50 PM

I thought that they changed it where the division leaders were all promised one of the top 4 spots, but that it didnt guarantee 1,2, and 3? Maybe I'm wrong-- I know that was an issue a few years ago but I thought they changed it after.

monty55555 · 02-27-2010, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I thought that they changed it where the division leaders were all promised one of the top 4 spots, but that it didnt guarantee 1,2, and 3? Maybe I'm wrong-- I know that was an issue a few years ago but I thought they changed it after.

Thanks. I'm confused too.

Because currently, Dallas and Utah have the same overall record. Utah has a higher conference record but Dallas has remained on the 3rd spot. I thought that if teams had the same record, they would go by conference record (in which case Utah should be 3rd).

Anyhow, hopefully someone can clarify this for us.

mary · 02-28-2010, 12:51 AM

A division leader tied with a non-division leader will win the tie.

monty55555 · 02-28-2010, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mary

A division leader tied with a non-division leader will win the tie.

Ah.... I think I finally get it.

Thank you!

mavs777 · 02-28-2010, 01:13 AM

Kind of Surprised to see the year Stackhouse is having, though I am happy for him, he is playing well off the bench for Milwaukee

Dirkadirkastan · 02-28-2010, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by monty55555

Thanks. I'm confused too.

Because currently, Dallas and Utah have the same overall record. Utah has a higher conference record but Dallas has remained on the 3rd spot. I thought that if teams had the same record, they would go by conference record (in which case Utah should be 3rd).

Anyhow, hopefully someone can clarify this for us.

1) Division winner (if in different divisions)
2) Head-to-head record
3) Division record (if in same division)
4) Conference record

Suppose the Lakers finish #1, with the Mavs, Jazz, and Nuggets finishing in the next three spots.

The Mavs play both the Nuggets (1-1) and the Jazz (1-2) only three times this year, so the tiebreakers will only go that far at most.

If the Mavs tie the Jazz only, the Mavs will place 3rd no matter what. Either the Nuggets have the #2 seed and the Mavs win the division tiebreaker, or the Nuggets have the #4 seed and the Mavs lose the head-to-head tiebreaker.

If the Mavs tie the Nuggets only, the Mavs will place at least 3rd. Either the Jazz have the #2 seed and the Mavs win the division tiebreaker, or the Jazz have the #4 seed, in which case the tiebreaker will be determined by the winner of the game on March 29.

In the case of a three-way tie, the Mavs will place at least 3rd, since division winners are determined before other tiebreakers, and that will place the Mavs ahead of at least one of the other two teams.

So if you're hoping the Mavs avoid the #4 spot, a tie with any team is favorable.

monty55555 · 02-28-2010, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

1) Division winner (if in different divisions)
2) Head-to-head record
3) Division record (if in same division)
4) Conference record

Suppose the Lakers finish #1, with the Mavs, Jazz, and Nuggets finishing in the next three spots.

The Mavs play both the Nuggets (1-1) and the Jazz (1-2) only three times this year, so the tiebreakers will only go that far at most.

If the Mavs tie the Jazz only, the Mavs will place 3rd no matter what. Either the Nuggets have the #2 seed and the Mavs win the division tiebreaker, or the Nuggets have the #4 seed and the Mavs lose the head-to-head tiebreaker.

If the Mavs tie the Nuggets only, the Mavs will place at least 3rd. Either the Jazz have the #2 seed and the Mavs win the division tiebreaker, or the Jazz have the #4 seed, in which case the tiebreaker will be determined by the winner of the game on March 29.

In the case of a three-way tie, the Mavs will place at least 3rd, since division winners are determined before other tiebreakers, and that will place the Mavs ahead of at least one of the other two teams.

So if you're hoping the Mavs avoid the #4 spot, a tie with any team is favorable.

Thank you very much! I appreciate it!

#41 · 02-28-2010, 03:24 PM

lol @ mr. richardson

LonghornDub · 02-28-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by #41

lol @ mr. richardson

That was hilarious. Too bad, though. I was hoping the Spurs would lose.

FreshJive · 02-28-2010, 06:19 PM

"I don't like to miss dunks, especially in crunch time like that, but it's one of those things that happens," Richardson said. "You can't do anything about it."

You can't control what the ball do.

Dirkadirkastan · 02-28-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirkadirkastan

1) Division winner (if in different divisions)
2) Head-to-head record
3) Division record (if in same division)
4) Conference record

Suppose the Lakers finish #1, with the Mavs, Jazz, and Nuggets finishing in the next three spots.

The Mavs play both the Nuggets (1-1) and the Jazz (1-2) only three times this year, so the tiebreakers will only go that far at most.

If the Mavs tie the Jazz only, the Mavs will place 3rd no matter what. Either the Nuggets have the #2 seed and the Mavs win the division tiebreaker, or the Nuggets have the #4 seed and the Mavs lose the head-to-head tiebreaker.

If the Mavs tie the Nuggets only, the Mavs will place at least 3rd. Either the Jazz have the #2 seed and the Mavs win the division tiebreaker, or the Jazz have the #4 seed, in which case the tiebreaker will be determined by the winner of the game on March 29.

In the case of a three-way tie, the Mavs will place at least 3rd, since division winners are determined before other tiebreakers, and that will place the Mavs ahead of at least one of the other two teams.

So if you're hoping the Mavs avoid the #4 spot, a tie with any team is favorable.

I just realized that the Nuggets already have the tiebreaker over the Jazz, winning the season series 3-1. So in the case of the three-way tie, the Mavs and Nuggets are the division winners, with the Jazz taking the #4 spot.

Just another reason that game on March 29 is going to be huge.

dalger · 02-28-2010, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

"I don't like to miss dunks, especially in crunch time like that, but it's one of those things that happens," Richardson said. "You can't do anything about it."

You can't control what the ball do.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that he meant that he just can't do anything about it NOW since the game is over...or no, let's not give the second incarnation of Josh Howard's "can't do anything about it" mentality the benefit. After all, he's a Sun (?!).

Good that the Lakers won. Tough, playoff-like game with two very good teams. Reaching the conference finals and actually getting out of it would be a helluva achievement.

mavErika · 03-01-2010, 03:07 AM

Pau Gasol doesn't like the thuggets attitude at all and kind of calls out the refs for letting them get away with too much: http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/...h-way-too-much

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Pau Gasol had heard enough.
Too much chirping from the Birdman. Too much nonsense from Nene. Too much mouthing off from
Melo. Too many comments from Kenyon.

"They talk too much," the normally reserved Gasol said after the game. "Way too much. I don't listen to things that don't make sense. I'm a player that likes to play and that's how I talk, by me playing. Other players can't do that."

The Lakers have an enemy and its name is the Nuggets, who were 2-0 against L.A. entering Sunday's clash. Lakers fans should praise the sky above the Rocky Mountains that Denver auditioned for the part.

"I love that we don't like the team in particular," Gasol said. "I wish we didn't like any teams for that matter."

I think we all can understand him. I also liked the Artest celebration when he fouled out Melo, and the close up of a fed-up Melo to end the nba.com-recap: http://www.nba.com/games/20100228/DENLAL/gameinfo.html

spreedom · 03-01-2010, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mavErika

Pau Gasol doesn't like the thuggets attitude at all and kind of calls out the refs for letting them get away with too much: http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles/...h-way-too-much

I think we all can understand him. I also liked the Artest celebration when he fouled out Melo, and the close up of a fed-up Melo to end the nba.com-recap: http://www.nba.com/games/20100228/DENLAL/gameinfo.html

I don't like players that scowl and scream 4 syllable f-bombs after making baskets either, but Gasol should know better than to publicly admit that they're getting under his skin.

mavs777 · 03-01-2010, 10:00 PM

Phoenic got behind double digits early in the second and are now ahead by 2

41N · 03-01-2010, 10:12 PM

incredible run by the suns in the second quarter (without nash and stoudamire). nuggets have big problems with the zone defense, i hope somebody will tell that carlisle...

EricaLubarsky · 03-01-2010, 10:12 PM

26-4 run by the Suns. Pretty amazing stuff

I wont bet against a team that has the refs on their side. The refs have been completely lop-sided in their calls. They blew at least 3 calls since I tuned in 10 minutes ago.

Billups gets kneed in the thigh which makes him hop and they call a travel

Then Nene goes up for a dunk and Amundson's hand is in the net-- possibly contacting the ball in the cylinder and no goal tending

Then K-Mart (the dip@#$% he is) got a beautiful tip with the ball outside the cylinder and they called offensive basket interference

mavs777 · 03-01-2010, 10:39 PM

turning into a blow out

sefant77 · 03-01-2010, 10:40 PM

20 point lead, hello sweet #2 spot

And i dont care if the Thuggets got screwed by the refs, they always can go berserker style at home and that pisses me off. Carmellas defense is just pushing and shoving with the hands..

CadBane · 03-01-2010, 11:47 PM

Billups shoots more undeserved FTs than anyone. The guy is basically a jump shooter and he goes to the line 7+ times a game by leaning into guys, pretending to trip, and kicking his leg out.

fluid.forty.one · 03-02-2010, 12:12 AM

thx phx