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Justin Credible · 07-31-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

So this is where the '9 whole gays' tag comes into play.

I finally get it!

nice! hahahahahahaha

"You must spread some reputation...."

SMC0007 · 07-31-2009, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by usamotorsports

lol OWNED

LOL. BANNED. YEah... NOW WHAT?

You got nothing, thats what!

dude1394 · 07-31-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

So this is where the '9 whole gays' tag comes into play.

I finally get it!

Hah....

DirkFTW · 07-31-2009, 11:31 AM

nooooooooo, stop banning all the good punching bags!

Underdog · 07-31-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DirkFTW

nooooooooo, stop banning all the good punching bags!

Sike got banned???

RoddyB#3 · 07-31-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by usamotorsports

lol timmy is provin still to today

2009 Playoffs

Game 1
T. Duncan 13-24 FG 9 reb 2 ast 27 pts
D. Nowitzki 7-15 FG 8 reb 2 ast 19 pts

Game 2
T. Duncan 5-10 FG 11 reb 5 ast 13 pts
D. Nowitzki 3-14 FG 6 reb 3 ast 14 pts

Game 3
T. Duncan 2-9 FG 2 reb 1 ast 4 pts ----- played only 15 min
D. Nowitzki 8-12 FG 7 reb 2 ast 20 pts ----- played only 26 min

Game 4
T. Duncan 7-13 FG 10 reb 7 ast 25 pts
D. Nowitzki 4-9 FG 13 reb 1 ast 12 pts

Game 5
T. Duncan 14-21 FG 8 reb 1 ast 30 pts
D. Nowitzki 11-17 FG 9 reb 3 ast 31 pts

Total

T. Duncan 41-77 FG 40 reb 16 ast 99 pts
D. Nowitzki 33-67 FG 43 reb 11 ast 96 pts

Averages

T. Duncan 53.2% FG 8.0 reb 3.2 ast 19.8 pts
D. Nowitzki 49.2% FG 8.6 reb 2.2 ast 19.2 pts

So after we play Duncan straight up, and you guys double and triple Dirk. It is fair to compare their stats? Huh?

Five-ofan · 07-31-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by usamotorsports

lol timmy is provin still to today

2009 Playoffs

Game 1
T. Duncan 13-24 FG 9 reb 2 ast 27 pts
D. Nowitzki 7-15 FG 8 reb 2 ast 19 pts

Game 2
T. Duncan 5-10 FG 11 reb 5 ast 13 pts
D. Nowitzki 3-14 FG 6 reb 3 ast 14 pts

Game 3
T. Duncan 2-9 FG 2 reb 1 ast 4 pts ----- played only 15 min
D. Nowitzki 8-12 FG 7 reb 2 ast 20 pts ----- played only 26 min

Game 4
T. Duncan 7-13 FG 10 reb 7 ast 25 pts
D. Nowitzki 4-9 FG 13 reb 1 ast 12 pts

Game 5
T. Duncan 14-21 FG 8 reb 1 ast 30 pts
D. Nowitzki 11-17 FG 9 reb 3 ast 31 pts

Total

T. Duncan 41-77 FG 40 reb 16 ast 99 pts
D. Nowitzki 33-67 FG 43 reb 11 ast 96 pts

Averages

T. Duncan 53.2% FG 8.0 reb 3.2 ast 19.8 pts
D. Nowitzki 49.2% FG 8.6 reb 2.2 ast 19.2 pts

considering we singled duncan and yall doubled dirk consistently Its pretty telling that the stats are roughly even.

Windmill360 · 07-31-2009, 11:57 AM

The guy got banned. Can he even see this thread anymore?

Underdog · 07-31-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

The guy got banned. Can he even see this thread anymore?

I hope so - I'm about to do some really dirty things with his mom in this thread...

dude1394 · 07-31-2009, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by RoddyB#3

So after we play Duncan straight up, and you guys double and triple Dirk. It is fair to compare their stats? Huh?

Yea we played him with ERIC DAMPIER!!!!

I'm imitating a spurts fan.

dude1394 · 07-31-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

I hope so - I'm about to do some really dirty things with his mom in this thread...

goody....see that's what I miss about doc(s). Doc(s) would mercilessly pummel trolls. It was fun to watch and join in.

Tokey41 · 07-31-2009, 07:12 PM

Who thinks Manu is that much better than Josh at this point? He's old and often injured... so would we rather have him for half a season or Josh, in a contract year, for a whole season (or at least more games than Manu will play)?

Zaknaf3in · 07-31-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tokey41

Who thinks Manu is that much better than Josh at this point? He's old and often injured... so would we rather have him for half a season or Josh, in a contract year, for a whole season (or at least more games than Manu will play)?

So Josh hasn't been injured quite a bit lately?
And still, even if healthy you may only add up 2 quarters per game he participated in.

mavs777 · 08-01-2009, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Do you even watch basketball?

You're going to give Jefferson a "slight slight edge" over Marion because he can do 1 or 2 things better than Marion? (whereas Marion does about 5 things better than Jefferson...)

I'm going to start negative repping you for posts like this - especially when you call an astute observation "homerism" (I mean, can you really consider it to be "homerism" when you only gave Jefferson a "slight slight edge"? Homers tend to be completely off base...)

Jefferson is better at slashing, dribbling, and has a better jumper, Marion is better defender and rebounder pick your poison

Underdog · 08-01-2009, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Jefferson is better at slashing, dribbling, and has a better jumper, Marion is better defender and rebounder pick your poison

Oh, so now it's "pick your poison" when before you called anyone who thought Marion was a better pickup than Jefferson a "homer"?

Care to backpedal a couple more steps?

Five-ofan · 08-01-2009, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by mavs777

Jefferson is better at slashing, dribbling, and has a better jumper, Marion is better defender and rebounder pick your poison

The actual list looks like this, Marion is better at cutting, finishing, offensive rebounding, defensive rebounding, on ball defense, and off the ball defense. Id actually argue that slashing and dribbling are about a wash and jefferson has a better jumper but thats it.

mavs777 · 08-01-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Oh, so now it's "pick your poison" when before you called anyone who thought Marion was a better pickup than Jefferson a "homer"?

Care to backpedal a couple more steps?

To call Marion over Jefferson easily is homer statement imo that is what I said you can call either better but I don't think there is anyway you can consider Jefferson a much better player

LonghornDub · 08-01-2009, 11:10 AM

Before the Spurs got Jefferson (which was well before the Mavs got Marion), I can honestly say I would have taken Marion 10 times out of 10 if I were given the choice between the two.

Underdog · 08-01-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LonghornDub

Before the Spurs got Jefferson (which was well before the Mavs got Marion), I can honestly say I would have taken Marion 10 times out of 10 if I were given the choice between the two.

That's because you aren't assessing talent in a vacuum like some folks - you're actually considering which player would be the best fit with Dirk, Kidd, Josh and JET (you know, OUR team?)

In addition, I'd say the Mavs have a bigger need for Marion than the Spurs do for Jefferson (it's not like RJ is going to be their #1 anything - Marion will definitely be our #1 defender, in addition to being our 3rd or 4th scorer next to Dirk/Josh/JET, the same way Jefferson will be their 3rd or 4th scorer next to Duncan/Parker/Manu...)

StackAttack · 08-01-2009, 03:12 PM

Regardless of who's the better player (and I'm inclined to say it's Shawn Marion, but that's besides the point), it's not like Richard Jefferson would really have a place here. Josh and RJ aren't terribly different in the way they play (though RJ's head is definitely screwed on much tighter).

Windmill360 · 08-01-2009, 03:24 PM

Just lookin at the season splits for Marion vs Denver last season and I like what I see.

Windmill360 · 08-01-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by StackAttack

Regardless of who's the better player (and I'm inclined to say it's Shawn Marion, but that's besides the point), it's not like Richard Jefferson would really have a place here. Josh and RJ aren't terribly different in the way they play (though RJ's head is definitely screwed on much tighter).

Everyone hates richard jefferson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDsPq3dXkvk

Nowitzki4President · 08-01-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Windmill360

Everyone hates richard jefferson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDsPq3dXkvk

That's just beautiful lol

mavs777 · 08-04-2009, 04:33 PM

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monty55555 · 08-15-2009, 11:49 PM

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Marion seeks to corral old playing form with Mavericks

By Art Garcia, NBA.com

Shawn Marion understands the rep and why he's bounced around the last couple of years. Rather than try to explain or go on the offensive, he just shrugs. Why bother?

"I'm just ready to play ball," the prized pickup of the Mavericks' offseason said.

Marion wants nothing more than to resume an All-Star career after two uneven seasons. The Matrix has gone from being a cornerstone in Phoenix, his home for 8 1/2 years, to being valuable for reasons that had increasingly less to do with basketball.

His hefty max-level and soon-to-be-expiring contract, which topped out at nearly $18 million last season, became the ticket the punched moves to Miami to Toronto in the span of a year. Dallas is his third stop since Feb. 6, 2008. The moves haven't been without baggage.

Whispers of Marion's discontent clouded his final days with the Suns when it became obvious a contract extension wasn't in the works. His last season in Phoenix was the least productive of his career outside of his rookie campaign, and Marion was shipped to the Heat as the centerpiece of the deal that sent Shaquille O'Neal to the desert.

Rumors of Marion being a problem in the Phoenix locker room only grew. Many centered on his uneasiness with several high-profile teammates, including Steve Nash and Amar'e Stoudemire, near the end.

"It's funny how they say stuff after you leave," Marion said. "So much of that stuff about our relationships, that stuff ain't true. I don't get into that. Everybody can say what they want to say. If someone doesn't want to say something directly to me, what can I do?"

Marion's numbers continued to fall in Miami, bottoming out at 12.0 points and 8.7 rebounds per game last season before the trade to Toronto last season. They weren't much better (14.3 ppg and 8.3 rpg) in his 27 games with the Raptors. Marion bristles at the suggestion that the decline resulted from a deterioration of skill.

"If you take 10 shots away from someone who was scoring 20 points, I don't care who you are, you're not going to score the same," he said, exaggerating the drop but making his point. "It's not possible. You can break that down any way you want, but you can't score without getting the ball."

Marion had thrived throughout his career without being the featured act, but there were also plenty of shots to go around in Phoenix, especially during the Mike D'Antoni era. Playing second banana to Dwyane Wade in South Florida and Chris Bosh north of the border wasn't nearly as fruitful. Marion became expendable in Toronto when the Raptors signed Hedo Turkoglu.

The more structured sets with the Heat and Raptors didn't mesh with the Marion's game. The self-confessed "rhythm player" found himself standing around in the corner waiting for the ball. His 3-point percentage last season plummeted to 18.9 percent (his lowest since his rookie season), as did his overall impact on the game. Once a 6-foot-7 wiry menace at both ends known for his versatility, Marion felt stagnant.

"People who analyze and look at stats don't look at touches," Marion said. "It's hard to be effective when you're not touching the ball for multiple possessions. Basketball is a rhythm game."

Touches shouldn't be a problem in Big D, where Marion is reunited with point guard Jason Kidd, whom he played with during his first two seasons in Phoenix. Coach Rick Carlisle has already promised that the Mavs will run as never before this season and added that Marion, more than anyone else, is the reason, likening the addition to "putting methane in the gas tank."

Marion, once a thorn in Dirk Nowitzki's side as a Sun, joins the former MVP in the frontcourt. Dallas' front office went into the offseason looking to upgrade around Nowitzki and Kidd, and Marion has been on owner Mark Cuban's radar for years. The surprise Turkoglu deal opened up a window for the Mavericks, who put together a sign-and-trade deal that guarantees Marion nearly $40 million (and piece of mind) for the next five years.

If the 31-year-old forward reverts to the form the Mavericks know all too well from their battles for most of the decade -- Marion averaged at least 17.3 points and 9.3 rebounds from 2001-07 -- Dallas could be a surprise contender in the Western Conference after slipping the last couple of seasons.

Marion knows the feeling.

"We're going to go out there and play ball and jell and have fun with each other," the four-time All-Star said. "That's the biggest thing. On the court is going to be fun to watch and off the court will take care of itself. When you have 15 guys on the same page that's what it's all about, working for a championship."

http://www.nba.com/2009/news/feature...arion.feature/

Kidd Karma · 08-17-2009, 05:53 PM

yahoo has Marion as number 30.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/da...TxuYmRiUh60bYF

Thomas is 22 and Gooden is 90

Windmill360 · 08-17-2009, 05:55 PM

they are wrong.

Dirkadirkastan · 08-17-2009, 06:37 PM

#22 is retired.

Mavsfan4ever · 08-17-2009, 11:32 PM

Went to two different sporting good stores looking for Marion's jersey today and couldn't find it. I'm guessing I'll have to wait until I go to the AAC to get tickets and check the shop there.

Windmill360 · 08-17-2009, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavsfan4ever

Went to two different sporting good stores looking for Marion's jersey today and couldn't find it. I'm guessing I'll have to wait until I go to the AAC to get tickets and check the shop there.

http://www.mavgear.com/