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MavsFTR · 03-24-2012, 12:39 AM

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MavsFTR · 03-24-2012, 12:59 AM

He seems pretty unstable in his recent tweets. He's making ambiguous threats and sounding very egomaniacal in the process.

Underdog · 03-24-2012, 09:07 AM

"Being an asshole" might be contagious, but it certainly isn't a disease - I'm sure as hell not going to sit here and let people pretend like Cadbane is some kind of a tragic figure who deserves our sympathy when he's proven to be nothing but a common internet bully...

Maybe he has mental problems, but I don't see how that forgives his behavior - the results are the same regardless of the motivation... Unless we're giving Hitler a pass for being clinically bi-polar?? (yes, I just compared Cadbane to Hitler - Godwin's Law FTW!)

GhostFace · 03-24-2012, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Characterized by at least 3 of the following:
1) Callous unconcern for the feelings of others
2) Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
3) Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
4) Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression.
5) Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
6) Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for their antisocial behavior.

Well you managed to accurately identify every key trait of my ex.

FreshJive · 03-24-2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GhostFace

Characterized by at least 3 of the following:

1) Callous unconcern for the feelings of others

2) Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.

3) Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.

4) Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression.

5) Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.

6) Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for their antisocial behavior.

So you only get to have two of these? I would be worried, but I don't think these rules are meant to apply to me.

xrobx · 03-24-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog
Characterized by at least 3 of the following:
1) Callous unconcern for the feelings of others
2) Gross and persistent attitude of irresponsibility and disregard for social norms, rules, and obligations.
3) Incapacity to maintain enduring relationships, though having no difficulty in establishing them.
4) Very low tolerance to frustration and a low threshold for discharge of aggression.
5) Incapacity to experience guilt or to profit from experience, particularly punishment.
6) Markedly prone to blame others or to offer plausible rationalizations for their antisocial behavior.

I'd say he's got at least 5 of those...

http://www.autism-help.org/comorbid-...ersonality.htm

Underdog · 03-24-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

I'd say he's got at least 5 of those...

http://www.autism-help.org/comorbid-...ersonality.htm

That's a link to ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER on the autism website, not the same thing as autism (but it is exactly what I said he showed symptoms of in the post you quoted...)

Here's autism:

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* Stereotypy is apparently purposeless movement, such as hand flapping, head rolling, or body rocking.

* Compulsive behavior is intended and appears to follow rules, such as arranging objects in a certain way.

* Sameness is resistance to change; for example, insisting that the furniture not be moved or refusing to be interrupted.

* Ritualistic behavior involves the performance of daily activities the same way each time, such as an unvarying menu or dressing ritual. This is closely associated with sameness and an independent validation has suggested combining the two factors.

* Restricted behavior is limited in focus, interest, or activity, such as preoccupation with a single television program.

* Self-injury includes movements that injure or can injure the person, such as biting oneself.

So, yeah, he's a sociopath, not autistic (but thanks for dragging autistic people through the mud in defense of a bully...)

xrobx · 03-24-2012, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

That's a link to ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER on the autism website, not the same thing as autism (but it is exactly what I said he showed symptoms of in the post you quoted...)

Here's autism:

So, yeah, he's a sociopath, not autistic (but thanks for dragging autistic people through the mud in defense of a bully...)

It's part of the autism spectrum.

Underdog · 03-24-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

It's part of the autism spectrum.

No, it's something that can be confused with autism if you don't know what you're looking for.

Drop it, because you don't know what you're talking about and you're starting to piss me off. I know what autism is firsthand and I'm not going to let you use it as an excuse for a sociopath like Cadbane - it's insulting to autistic people.

fluid.forty.one · 03-24-2012, 05:30 AM

I arrived late to this party, but I did laugh out loud when I went to the twitter page and it says "This Account Has Been Suspended". Epic.

DirkFTW · 03-24-2012, 08:41 AM

Since we're talking health and head stuffs, let's not further harm the Asians and their physical and mental health by reintroducing racism to these now-peaceful grounds.

We've already lost horse. How many more must be needlessly sacrificed before we learn?

Big Boy Laroux · 03-24-2012, 09:27 AM

I've heard that said elsewhere - "he didn't know he was Asian". To me, that makes no difference at all. Anyone that uses "gook" as a go-to insult has issues, whether the intended target is Asian or not.

xrobx · 03-24-2012, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

I've heard that said elsewhere - "he didn't know he was Asian". To me, that makes no difference at all. Anyone that uses "gook" as a go-to insult has issues, whether the intended target is Asian or not.

I agree with what you're saying. He told me he said it because the guy was a Lin-fan... I mean you saw the "Chink in the Armor" ESPN headline... With Lin I guess people started thinking they could take it a little farther than what's usually acceptable and anti-asian slurs have really increased in all NBA discussion with the emergence of Lin. Not saying it's right, just an observance.

Big Boy Laroux · 03-24-2012, 09:38 AM

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I agree with what you're saying. He told me he said it because the guy was a Lin-fan... I mean you saw the "Chink in the Armor" ESPN headline... With Lin I guess people started thinking they could take it a little farther than what's usually acceptable and anti-asian slurs have really increased in all NBA discussion with the emergence of Lin. Not saying it's right, just an observance.

The "Chink in the Armor" headline got someone fired from their real job. Cad got fired from this board. Works for me.

Underdog · 03-24-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

I agree with what you're saying. He told me he said it because the guy was a Lin-fan... I mean you saw the "Chink in the Armor" ESPN headline... With Lin I guess people started thinking they could take it a little farther than what's usually acceptable and anti-asian slurs have really increased in all NBA discussion with the emergence of Lin. Not saying it's right, just an observance.

Sounds more like an excuse than an "observance" (observation?)

"Everyone else is a bigot, so Cadbane can't be wrong" - yeah, nice try...

xrobx · 03-24-2012, 09:54 AM

I'm going to go ahead and move on from this topic because I feel like I've said what I needed to and I realized beforehand that this might villainize me but I genuinely feel bad for the kid, I can't help it. Sorry to anyone I may have angered. I'm ready to get back to talking about basketball.

Edit: one last note, I personally advised him that he should move on and try to find another message board and a more accepting community, but of course he wasn't hearing it.

Big Boy Laroux · 03-24-2012, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

Edit: one last note, I personally advised him that he should move on and try to find another message board and a more accepting community, but of course he wasn't hearing it.

I take offense to this. A more accepting board doesn't exist. This board has been far more accepting of his (and others') behavior than a lot I have seen. Honestly, he's lucky he's lasted this long.

It's great that you're his friend. It's great that you feel sorry for him. Then you can help him. We have no obligation to him. Sorry if that sounds cold, but it's true. You can't antagonize people 24/7 then expect them to suddenly have your back.

The board has standards. There is no footnote that says "oh, but if you have a mental disorder, disregard all of the above". The mods can't get into that level with the posters.

xrobx · 03-24-2012, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

I take offense to this. A more accepting board doesn't exist. This board has been far more accepting of his (and others') behavior than a lot I have seen. Honestly, he's lucky he's lasted this long.

It's great that you're his friend. It's great that you feel sorry for him. Then you can help him. We have no obligation to him. Sorry if that sounds cold, but it's true. You can't antagonize people 24/7 then expect them to suddenly have your back.

The board has standards. There is no footnote that says "oh, but if you have a mental disorder, disregard all of the above". The mods can't get into that level with the posters.

That's all true, and I certainly understand! That's life.

nowhereman · 03-24-2012, 09:59 AM

Good effing riddance. We have no obligation to be accepting of total a-holes.

I personally don't give a crap what issues he has, he's not a victim. I'd like to forget about his existence as quickly as possible.

LonghornDub · 03-24-2012, 10:03 AM

How do you even get suspended from Twitter?

xrobx · 03-24-2012, 10:45 AM

I can't help it... I'm a bleeding heart.

But I will take your thoughts into consideration. Take care, everybody.

Underdog · 03-24-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by xrobx

I can't help it... I'm a bleeding heart.

But I will take your thoughts into consideration. Take care, everybody.

Well, at least your motivations are pure - sorry if I was a dick to you, I lacked full comprehension of where you were coming from and that's on me... I should have taken the time to understand you better before I reacted.

xrobx · 03-24-2012, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Underdog

Well, at least your motivations are pure - sorry if I was a dick to you, I lacked full comprehension of where you were coming from and that's on me... I should have taken the time to understand you better before I reacted.

It's okay man, I know things get heated on here sometimes but I know you're a good dude

Murphy3 · 03-24-2012, 11:20 AM

I don't know.. we've already had one horribly unfortunate incident a few years back involving a member of this forum.. maybe we should listen to xrob

chumdawg · 03-24-2012, 11:26 AM

xrobx, can you provide a little supporting evidence that you know CadBane in real life? For instance, how old is he, where does he live, how do you know him, and what's his name?

GermanDunk · 03-24-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chumdawg

xrobx, can you provide a little supporting evidence that you know CadBane in real life? For instance, how old is he, where does he live, how do you know him, and what's his name?

@ XROB: How come you know Mr. Bane ? And. Doesn´t he have a hobby ?

Big Boy Laroux · 03-24-2012, 03:28 PM

OK - so now he's on twitter saying that xrobx is wrong and that it's libel to say he's autistic (which xrobx is the only one to say, apparently from cad himself). Also libel to say he's a sociopath. Well, we just listed traits... if the shoe fits...

Too much drama for me. I blocked him. Of course he'll probably create another account.

At any rate, though, he is either reading this forum or having someone relay info to him.

Underdog · 03-24-2012, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

OK - so now he's on twitter saying that xrobx is wrong and that it's libel to say he's autistic (which xrobx is the only one to say, apparently from cad himself). Also libel to say he's a sociopath.

To prove libel in a court of law:

1) a person must prove that the statement was false [he'd have to visit a shrink and they'd have to sign off on him not being a sociopath...]

2) a person must prove that the statement caused harm [he'd have to produce actual evidence of damages - like if a celebrity loses millions of dollars because of something that someone said about them...]

3) a person must prove that the statement was made without adequate research into the truthfulness of the statement [I have 3 years of data on Cadbane via D-M.com, Your Honor...]

And even if he could prove all three, he seems to be forgetting that he's using an ALIAS on this site, so nothing said here could be construed as libel because none of us know who the hell he actually is...

Looney tunes!

Big Boy Laroux · 03-24-2012, 04:17 PM

Oh yeah the claim of libel is absurd - just relaying info. Also thought it was interesting that he's saying the autism part is libel and that's apparently what he told xrobx. This is so ridiculous.

Underdog · 03-24-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

Oh yeah the claim of libel is absurd - just relaying info. Also thought it was interesting that he's saying the autism part is libel and that's apparently what he told xrobx. This is so ridiculous.

Cadbane is definitely giving Doc Bio a run for his money...

MavsFTR · 03-24-2012, 04:33 PM

Wish I was around for the infamous Doc Bio saga. Any place I can read up on it?

FreshJive · 03-24-2012, 04:50 PM

Didn't Dr Bio just spam the pm system to death with a bot? I don't remember him being that obnoxious otherwise, but I wasn't around much. I remember he hated Steve Nash and Chum.

Male30Dan · 03-24-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by FreshJive

Didn't Dr Bio just spam the pm system to death with a bot? I don't remember him being that obnoxious otherwise, but I wasn't around much. I remember he hated Steve Nash and Chum.

Doc and I were friends on here as much as you can be friends on a message board having never actually met. I thought he was a pretty intelligent person with good theories, ideas and opinions. He wasn't for everyone and he had countless feuds - as many in the Politics section as the sports sections. He was similar to Cadbane regarding being quick to lash out when someone didn't see eye to eye with him (and would also often hit people with negative rep with pretty harsh language).

His story was legendary though. Truly legendary. I'm not one to search the forums for old threads - I'll let someone else do that. But yeah, Bane has a way to go to hit his overall reach of cliff diving. Dude went from having the single most reputation (measured merely by the rep system) and by far the most posts overall to a complete nut case given his explanation of his "case study" and all that went with it. Many hated the guy (much like many hated Cad - and mostly for the same reasons), but most respected his sports opinions (again, much like most respect Cad's sports opinions). Weird how similar they actually are... DUM DUM DUM!

FreshJive · 03-24-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Male30Dan

Doc and I were friends on here as much as you can be friends on a message board having never actually met. I thought he was a pretty intelligent person with good theories, ideas and opinions. He wasn't for everyone and he had countless feuds - as many in the Politics section as the sports sections. He was similar to Cadbane regarding being quick to lash out when someone didn't see eye to eye with him (and would also often hit people with negative rep with pretty harsh language).

His story was legendary though. Truly legendary. I'm not one to search the forums for old threads - I'll let someone else do that. But yeah, Bane has a way to go to hit his overall reach of cliff diving. Dude went from having the single most reputation (measured merely by the rep system) and by far the most posts overall to a complete nut case given his explanation of his "case study" and all that went with it. Many hated the guy (much like many hated Cad - and mostly for the same reasons), but most respected his sports opinions (again, much like most respect Cad's sports opinions). Weird how similar they actually are... DUM DUM DUM!

That's right it's becoming clearer now. I forgot about the volume of posts, the rudeness to non confrontational posters (mavsfanfinley), the political forum stuff (twodeep!), and the "case study" excuse. It just seemed like he got banned on purpose, so I thought he was just bored of trolling, and didn't really care.

u2sarajevo · 03-24-2012, 05:58 PM

This feels all too familiar. The only diff is that once Doc was banned he went into perma-hiatus when his ban was over (unless his "hiatus" actually was creating an account called cadbane?).

LonghornDub · 03-24-2012, 06:28 PM

I'm honestly somewhat concerned for the guy. Hope someday he gets whatever he needs to center himself out a bit.

mcsluggo · 03-26-2012, 12:12 PM

I totally buy the aspergers angle... it fits to a tee the experience i have had in the past

Murphy3 · 03-29-2012, 02:08 PM

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I totally buy the aspergers angle... it fits to a tee the experience i have had in the past

Talk about misreading a post and being confused.. Asparagus angle? What the heck?

Big Boy Laroux · 04-05-2012, 06:06 PM

I occasionally check in on our friend on twitter. Here's his latest:

"@FreeCadBane: @JLin7 Knicks are better without you. Overrated gook."

Not racist, though.

Underdog · 04-05-2012, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux

I occasionally check in on our friend on twitter. Here's his latest:

"@FreeCadBane: @JLin7 Knicks are better without you. Overrated gook."

Not racist, though.

Wow, I just read some of his tweets - it's nothing but a stream of rage, constantly hurling insults at anyone and everyone.

Good riddance...