2020-2021 NBA Season thread

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Am I crazy for not even really wanting Giannis that badly? I'm not just saying that as I've been vocal about not caring about preserving cap space for such things.

I mean, sure, it would have been fun, but I am glad he stays in Milwaukee.

Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

I love Giannis as a player and a person, but I totally agree.

With Doncic, he'd lose the ability to have the ball in his hands a lot which would make him more of a roll man and he's limited with his ability to pop because of his shooting. I'm not sure you pay max money for a guy who can only roll (when Doncic can get guys like Powell 11ppg)

I also think that that lack of shooting is going to be really limiting.

I'm happy Giannis is staying in Milwaukee and I'm happy he got paid. I'm also happy we can move on to better discussions. I think we're going to see that a lot of our needs are taken care of with the players we have and I think we're also going to see what we need by the playoffs this year.

Yes, both of you are absolutely nuts. Giannis and Luka would win multiple championships together. They would be one of the two or three greatest duos in NBA history. We're talking Kobe and Shaq level of greatness, only I really think they would have lasted together a lot longer than Kobe and Shaq. I'm absolutely convinced of that. So yes, if you don't want a potential dynasty, you're crazy.

Miss me with any of these notion about Giannis being a roll man being "limiting." I think he might be the greatest roll man in history and he would benefit tremendously from NOT having the ball in his hands all the time. And yes, a two-time MVP and DPOY, top 3 player in his prime is worth the max.

This is why the idea of Giannis was so intoxicating. It wasn't just the idea of putting Luka with another star. It's that I think their games are absolutely PERFECT for each other. A match made in heaven. I don't think we've seen anything like in NBA history.

I'm not too upset about it, because it was a longshot and I figured Giannis would indeed stay in Milwaukee. So it's whatever. But no, I'm not at all feeling this ambivalence about Giannis being a Maverick, like, "Meh, I didn't really want to pair our generational superstar with another generational superstar." Nope. Not feeling that at all.

And Dwight Powell is a swell guy, but I would personally drive him to the f*cking glue factory if we had Giannis. In fact, I'm not convinced we're not better off without Powell right now.

Then we have a full max contract worth of cap next summer to really go and get those guys. That's exciting to me.

Just curious. Who's still available that excites you? Because from what I'm looking at, the 2021 free agency is now a bunch of overpaid and over the hill guys that are questionable fits at best. Gobert? Derozen? Lowry? Oh... goodie.

[DevinHarriswillstart]

Originally Posted by Thespiralgoeson

Yes, both of you are absolutely nuts. Giannis and Luka would win multiple championships together. They would be one of the two or three greatest duos in NBA history. We're talking Kobe and Shaq level of greatness, only I really think they would have lasted together a lot longer than Kobe and Shaq. I'm absolutely convinced of that. So yes, if you don't want a potential dynasty, you're crazy.

Miss me with any of these notion about Giannis being a roll man being "limiting." I think he might be the greatest roll man in history and he would benefit tremendously from NOT having the ball in his hands all the time. And yes, a two-time MVP and DPOY, top 3 player in his prime is worth the max.

This is why the idea of Giannis was so intoxicating. It wasn't just the idea of putting Luka with another star. It's that I think their games are absolutely PERFECT for each other. A match made in heaven. I don't think we've seen anything like in NBA history.

I'm not too upset about it, because it was a longshot and I figured Giannis would indeed stay in Milwaukee. So it's whatever. But no, I'm not at all feeling this ambivalence about Giannis being a Maverick, like, "Meh, I didn't really want to pair our generational superstar with another generational superstar." Nope. Not feeling that at all.

And Dwight Powell is a swell guy, but I would personally drive him to the f*cking glue factory if we had Giannis. In fact, I'm not convinced we're not better off without Powell right now.



Just curious. Who's still available that excites you? Because from what I'm looking at, the 2021 free agency is now a bunch of overpaid and over the hill guys that are questionable fits at best. Gobert? Derozen? Lowry? Oh... goodie.

If we didn't have KP, and hopefully a healthy KP, then I'd agree with you. But man, you have to be able to shoot in today's game. Giannis is like the best role player of all time, but he just doesn't have that it factor when it comes to taking over games. At least, not in the playoffs and not yet. Look at what Dirk had to do shooting-wise to be able to win it all. I just don't see that in Giannis.

And I do think there are a lot of guys that fit really well with Luka.

Now, with regards to fa 2021, you're totally right which is why the Giannis pipe dream was silly to chase. Best guess is some sort of trade for a disgruntled player since Mavs do trades as well as anyone.

[Thespiralgoeson]

Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

If we didn't have KP, and hopefully a healthy KP, then I'd agree with you. But man, you have to be able to shoot in today's game. Giannis is like the best role player of all time, but he just doesn't have that it factor when it comes to taking over games. At least, not in the playoffs and not yet. Look at what Dirk had to do shooting-wise to be able to win it all. I just don't see that in Giannis.

I said this in the other thread, but I'd trade 5 KP's for Giannis. Better yet, make it 10. If KP is the reason it's not working, then you trade KP yesterday. As for Giannis not being able to take over games and being the greatest role player ever... I mean... all the more reason he needs to play with someone like Luka. All the more reason he'd be the perfect #2 option, with Luka running the offense. That seems like an argument for Luka and Giannis being perfect together, not against.

And I do think there are a lot of guys that fit really well with Luka.

I mean, he's one of the greatest playmakers the game has ever seen. No hyperbole. ANYONE would fit really well next to Luka- except a Harden or Westbrook or someone who needs the ball all the time.

Now, with regards to fa 2021, you're totally right which is why the Giannis pipe dream was silly to chase. Best guess is some sort of trade for a disgruntled player since Mavs do trades as well as anyone.

I definitely think if we're ever going to get another all-nba caliber player, it will come via trade an not free agency. I just have no idea who. Beal seems to be on everyone's radar, but Washington seems dead set on him as their franchise player. So I guess we just have to wait for someone to get disgruntled. Because I really am not interested in Gobert.