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11-21-2010, 10:18 AM
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Would you trade Dirk for Griffin
This debate is hypothetical.
but its very hard to say no what do you guys think? |
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11-21-2010, 10:51 AM
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No. Ha, easier that i thought...
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11-21-2010, 11:01 AM
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Dirk for Griffin???NO WAY!!!My friends
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11-21-2010, 11:26 AM
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No, but I'd sure trade Haywood and Butler. Do the Clips need a 7 footer?
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11-21-2010, 11:37 AM
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11-21-2010, 11:43 AM
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I wouldn't trade Dirk because that would be really dicking him over...but in terms of trade value, Griffin is worth more than Dirk. Griffin is one hell of a player and 11 years younger than Dirk. Note that this is solely trade value- teams that want to win now would obviously choose Dirk 100% of the time.
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11-21-2010, 11:48 AM
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These days being a fan is a competition to see who can be the most upset when your team loses. That proves you love winning more. That's how it works. Last edited by Underdog; 11-21-2010 at 11:48 AM. |
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11-21-2010, 11:57 AM
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He's legend for the Dallas Mavericks.You would trade him!!!This is crazy!!!
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11-21-2010, 12:02 PM
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so the point is unproven upside versus proven veteran/MVP
probably not something i would do, but i Certainly don't think its silly to look at offers for dirk, but i only want youth, picks, and $$ in return. mavs are gonna have to rebuild eventually
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11-21-2010, 12:48 PM
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another year of nonsensical trade proposals for the greatest player to ever put on a mavs uniform. yuck.
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11-21-2010, 12:48 PM
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Also in the future please put these in the trade section so they can be ignored.
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11-21-2010, 01:07 PM
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Just for the record I would never trade dirk. Just figured we needed an updated version of the oden thread. Plus griffin went for like 44 and 15 last night and had about 10 highlight reel dunks
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11-21-2010, 02:39 PM
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I'll tell you this much... the Clippers sure wouldn't trade Griffen for Dirk.
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11-21-2010, 02:48 PM
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He's gonna be a hell of a player.... that is if he stays healthy throughout his career.
If we were in rebuilding mode, I would obviously trade him, but this team is going for a title and theres no need to trade a hall of famer for him at this point.
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Though if I thought Griffin had the potential to be an elite scorer, I'd do it in a second.
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That's what I'd call potential to be an elite scorer. I'm not sure I do it "in a second", but I'd think long and hard about Dirk for Griffin straight up. Obviously, nothing is set in stone. Griffin could be injury plagued his entire career -- I mean, come on, he missed his entire rookie season! That's a cause for concern. But the potential he's shown so far this season...if you knew for a fact that he could reach his potential and stay relatively injury free, then it'd be hard to pass up that good, that young of a player. Of course, you don't know that. But you also don't know whether Dirk tears his ACL and his career is over tomorrow. Its unlikely, and based on the percentages, much less likely to happen then Griffin having an injury (based on sample size...Dirk's been healthy all career, Griffin hasn't), but it is possible. I don't really know, but if such a deal was on the table, it would be really, really, really tempting. |
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11-21-2010, 05:43 PM
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For all we know, Griffin is a flash in the pan - you don't trade a player like Dirk for that.
Besides, you'd probably have to wait until the end of next season to really know if Griffin is top-shelf. And if he is, his value would become greater than Dirk's so a trade wouldn't happen anyway. The stakes are too high to gamble on your franchise player when you're a perennial playoff contender - it's okay to take that risk with roleplayers, but guys like Dirk are few and far between...
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11-21-2010, 05:47 PM
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Dirk gives us an elite power forward for the next 3-4 years, griffin for the next 13-14 years barring injury. Of course he missed all of last year, thus, the risk factor.
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11-21-2010, 06:33 PM
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I'd rather discuss John Wall for Steve Nash than this.
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11-21-2010, 06:34 PM
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I'd trade Butler for him.
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11-21-2010, 06:37 PM
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Btw... Griffin is 21 (two years of college) and he will be 22 at the end of the year.
He better be producing right away. Dirk had a much higher learning curve. The scary thing about Griffin is he appears to be an Antonio McDyess type. And for longevity, that is what would worry me. |
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11-21-2010, 06:46 PM
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I'd trade Marion for him, too.
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11-21-2010, 07:17 PM
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Great question. Clippers would NEVER do this tho. I would hate to see Dirk go especially without a ring here, So I'd have to turn it down and then not get any sleep for a while. But the upside of Griffin is no joke or flash in the pan. Turning that deal down would have to result in us winning a championship before Dirk retires or the GM would commit suicide. Griffin here would pretty much drive a car thru the window of opportunity.
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11-21-2010, 10:13 PM
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I think Griffin is the truth. His style is Amare and his ceiling is higher.
I can't do Dirk like that as a Mavs guy. Nor do I think even business man Cuban could. You would need some cold-blooded not-attached GM to make that call for me.
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Of course, I could be wrong. Dwight Howard learned post moves...maybe that's the route Griffin goes. |
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11-22-2010, 12:13 AM
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Speaking of Griffin, I'm sure many of you have seen this by now, but he had two absurd dunks in one game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2VLEGtRuz4 But to answer the thread....no I would not.
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11-22-2010, 02:33 AM
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Griffin is sick! The dude is hyper-athletic, and young!
He's the real deal...a franchise player. Think Shawn Kemp, but smarter and much more mature (with a good attitude and a great work ethic). And, he's only going to get better, barring injury of course.
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Does he has springs in his shoes? That is insane. He seems to get higher up, after reaching the peak.
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Dunking is so overrated.
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11-22-2010, 11:24 AM
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Dirk has a no trade clause. I don't see him waiving that to go to the Clippers.
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