12-10-2011, 12:56 AM
|
#41
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 1,648
|
I'm expecting some Rodman-like numbers out of TC in NY. The only points he'll get will be on putbacks, since you know Carmelo and Amare are going to take EVERY shot...but he should end up with several 20 rebound games, considering he will be the only person playing defense (unless you count Balkman...and I don't).
I challenge the notion that we let him walk "for nothing" though. $40MM difference in contracts, x2 (or more) for luxury tax...I'd say we let him walk for $80MM, plus greatly enhanced future flexibility (cap room in 2012, a full MLE, more trade flexibility). If you think $80MM is nothing...will you please write me a check for $80MM?
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:03 AM
|
#42
|
Guru
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 40,410
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobatundi
I'm expecting some Rodman-like numbers out of TC in NY. The only points he'll get will be on putbacks, since you know Carmelo and Amare are going to take EVERY shot...but he should end up with several 20 rebound games, considering he will be the only person playing defense (unless you count Balkman...and I don't).
I challenge the notion that we let him walk "for nothing" though. $40MM difference in contracts, x2 (or more) for luxury tax...I'd say we let him walk for $80MM, plus greatly enhanced future flexibility (cap room in 2012, a full MLE, more trade flexibility). If you think $80MM is nothing...will you please write me a check for $80MM?
|
So what assett did we get back for letting him go? Oh yeah, flexibility... Flexibility is that guy who anchors the defense, right?
__________________
"Yankees fans who say “flags fly forever’’ are right, you never lose that. It reinforces all the good things about being a fan. ... It’s black and white. You (the Mavs) won a title. That’s it and no one can say s--- about it.’’
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:09 AM
|
#43
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: DC
Posts: 4,712
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav4ever
|
__________________
Quote:
RT @TyLawson3 Good game between Dallas and Portland. Good thing we didn't end up getting Dallas. Coach Karl lost his mind.
|
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:09 AM
|
#44
|
Member
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 668
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dude1394
So what assett did we get back for letting him go? Oh yeah, flexibility... Flexibility is that guy who anchors the defense, right?
|
It was a smart move. We can't tie our team down for years because of Chandler.
__________________
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:11 AM
|
#45
|
Guru
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 40,410
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by OneLove22
It was a smart move. We can't tie our team down for years because of Chandler.
|
So I hear, but let's not pretend that we got anything of value in return.
__________________
"Yankees fans who say “flags fly forever’’ are right, you never lose that. It reinforces all the good things about being a fan. ... It’s black and white. You (the Mavs) won a title. That’s it and no one can say s--- about it.’’
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:12 AM
|
#46
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: DC
Posts: 4,712
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by OneLove22
It was a smart move. We can't tie our team down for years because of Chandler.
|
I agree with Dude's point completely.
__________________
Quote:
RT @TyLawson3 Good game between Dallas and Portland. Good thing we didn't end up getting Dallas. Coach Karl lost his mind.
|
Last edited by nowhereman; 12-10-2011 at 01:13 AM.
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:13 AM
|
#47
|
Guru
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 40,410
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nowhereman
Right. I would hate to have one of the best centers in the league tie our team down for years.
|
Yea, it would be a tragedy wouldn't it?
__________________
"Yankees fans who say “flags fly forever’’ are right, you never lose that. It reinforces all the good things about being a fan. ... It’s black and white. You (the Mavs) won a title. That’s it and no one can say s--- about it.’’
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:15 AM
|
#48
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: DC
Posts: 4,712
|
__________________
Quote:
RT @TyLawson3 Good game between Dallas and Portland. Good thing we didn't end up getting Dallas. Coach Karl lost his mind.
|
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:18 AM
|
#49
|
Guru
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 40,410
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nowhereman
|
I couldn't agree more. When you get a Garnett changing defensive assett, you don't just kick it out the door. Idiots.
__________________
"Yankees fans who say “flags fly forever’’ are right, you never lose that. It reinforces all the good things about being a fan. ... It’s black and white. You (the Mavs) won a title. That’s it and no one can say s--- about it.’’
Last edited by dude1394; 12-10-2011 at 01:20 AM.
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:31 AM
|
#50
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: DC
Posts: 4,712
|
Is this our Chumdawg/Nash moment?
I'm reserving the right to start a thread like this: http://www.dallas-mavs.com/vb/showthread.php?t=28489
__________________
Quote:
RT @TyLawson3 Good game between Dallas and Portland. Good thing we didn't end up getting Dallas. Coach Karl lost his mind.
|
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 03:44 AM
|
#51
|
Platinum Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Mexico Mountains
Posts: 2,386
|
He was the missing piece. His stats pale next to his true value. Mobility. Attitude. Leadership. A perfect fit. Thanks for bringing us a championship, TC. Without you it would have been impossible.
For those reasons, I think letting him go was a mistake. Why he is gone and Haywood is still here, when amnesty is an available option, boggles my mind. There were ways to keep TC and retain flexibility, but Mark says his ability to wheel and deal is more important. Now the ball is back in MC's court. time to wheel and deal. Impress me.
__________________
"He got dimes." Harrison Barnes on Luca Doncic during his 1st NBA training camp.
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 07:05 AM
|
#52
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germany
Posts: 1,456
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mav4ever
|
I've been watching that dunk over and over and over again since the Finals. One of the great moments and Bynum's face when Chandler is walking by him after the dunk is priceless. Tells the story of that series.
That said, it simply wasn't the no-brainer some people make it out to be to offer Tyson five years and $60+ million. As much as he did help us--that contract could eventually turn into quite a problem for the Knicks. In our case, Tyson would have had to be our second-best player for years to come to make it worth it. We would have had little financial flexibility to add quality pieces with Dirk and Tyson taking 55-60% of our entire cap.
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 10:59 AM
|
#53
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Posts: 4,624
|
Thanks Tyson! Thanks for helping the team bag that ever so elusive championship trophy. I wish you the best of luck in NY! And oh, I am unfollowing your twitter account. Just saying
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 01:05 PM
|
#54
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Where something amazing has FINALLY happened!!!
Posts: 1,221
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by mqywaaah
Thanks Tyson! Thanks for helping the team bag that ever so elusive championship trophy. I wish you the best of luck in NY! And oh, I am unfollowing your twitter account. Just saying
|
Yep, unfollowing TC as well...and although I wish Tyson's career well, I hope the Knicks fail- simply hate all NY and MIA teams
__________________
At what point, if a team ALWAYS takes too many jumpshots, do we wonder if it’s a case of dumb students or a case of a bad teacher?
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 02:13 PM
|
#55
|
Moderator
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 17,873
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by nowhereman
|
Just make sure you put the word "fraud" in it somewhere.
__________________
John Madden on Former NFL Running Back Leroy Hoard: "You want one yard, he'll get you three. You want five yards, he'll get you three."
"Your'e a low-mentality drama gay queen!!" -- She_Growls
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 05:00 PM
|
#56
|
Guru
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Brasil
Posts: 15,401
|
Time to unfollow him on Twitter. Too many Knicks crap retweeted by him...
|
|
|
12-10-2011, 09:42 PM
|
#57
|
Platinum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Location: New York City
Posts: 2,348
|
Can't believe this is happening, but that's life for you. Thanks Tyson for all the hard work and helping us win a championship. It's more then we can ask for.
Those clips and pics bring back so many memories of glory. Damn, this blows. I hope Cubes and Donnie understand what they're doing.
__________________
"What Dirk is doing is legendary stuff, this is a joke how good this man is" - JVG
|
|
|
12-11-2011, 03:05 AM
|
#58
|
Golden Member
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: POLAND
Posts: 1,551
|
Thanks for all.I never forget you
__________________
No one loves Dirk any more than I do
MY HEART-WHERE DIRK NOWITZKI IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE AN ALL-STAR
|
|
|
12-11-2011, 03:26 AM
|
#59
|
Member
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 659
|
Thanks TC for the CHAMPIONSHIP, Lamar Odom and a chance of landing Dwight and Deron next year.
__________________
|
|
|
12-11-2011, 03:46 AM
|
#60
|
Diamond Member
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: now, here
Posts: 7,720
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitanObvious
Thanks TC for the CHAMPIONSHIP, Lamar Odom and a chance of landing Dwight and Deron next year.
|
Seriously. Appreciate the epic lob throw downs. Paint patrol. Bling. And now the LO gift.
__________________
watch your thoughts, they become your words
|
|
|
12-11-2011, 04:55 AM
|
#61
|
Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 123
|
A championship and an Odom for us, a championship and a big fat contract for Tyson Chandler. Happy faces all around.
And who do we all have to thank for all that? Erick Dampier and his voidable contract.
|
|
|
12-11-2011, 10:17 AM
|
#62
|
Platinum Member
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 2,293
|
I will say, that I'm gonna miss the "drive time with Tyson" on Ben and Skin. As well as the Tyson & JJ jokes they always do.
I hated him before he was a Mav, especially when he was in NO. But after seeing what kind of a guy he really is, and player that greatly influenced our championship team. I've given total respect to him. Sucks to see him go, i'm not bitter about this at all. But whatever, you will always be a part of the Mavs family, Thanks for everything you did Tyson! have fun in NYC.
__________________
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:45 PM.
|