On Deck : Government Universal Health Care

[roadrunner]

Originally Posted by SeanL

It is amazing that Gingrich and every single conservative in the country couldn't stop creaming over the thought of the individual mandate in the 90's. Now that a Democrat proposed the exact same thing it is communism. Just shows how hypocritical conservatives are.

So, you think proposing something and passing something is the same thing, huh. So what if they proposed it. They weren't stupid enough to pass it against the will of the American people like the Democrats did this time around. And this time around, they didn't even read the bill before the voted on it. We have to pass it to see whats in it. How stupid is that? I don't know the specifics of what the House in the 1990's had in mind, but being a conservative and being against it, eventually, since it didnt pass in the 90's does not equal hypocrite. But, Im guessing that you will just keep going with that false narrative.

Im also guessing that your President lying to you about Obamacare just doesnt hit your radar screen either. He lies about alot of issues but Im going to keep it within the framework of this thread, which is healthcare.

Obama- Insurers delayed an Illinois man’s treatment, “and he died because of it.”
(Insurer’s decision was reversed and man lived three more years)

Obama- Health reform will “give every American the same opportunity” to buy health insurance the way members of Congress do.

Obama- Preventive care “saves money.”
(PolitiFact-Covering preventive care for everyone is a net cost)

The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
Campaign and Presidency
If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
TownHall
“Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.
ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans
Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
Claims never documented
The Health Care Package will pay for itself
Time
We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
Democratic Debate Lies

[roadrunner]

http://www.atr.org/five-worst-obamac...s-coming-a7217

This doesnt include the fact that tanning salons already are paying extra in taxes as well as we now can no longer use our HSA's to purchase over the counter drugs.

Just a taste of the Obamacare taxes hitting in 2013 if Obama gets a 2nd term and Republicans don't take the Senate.

[SeanL]

Originally Posted by roadrunner

http://www.atr.org/five-worst-obamac...s-coming-a7217

This doesnt include the fact that tanning salons already are paying extra in taxes as well as we now can no longer use our HSA's to purchase over the counter drugs.

Just a taste of the Obamacare taxes hitting in 2013 if Obama gets a 2nd term and Republicans don't take the Senate.

Tanning salons... really? LOL! Oh what a terrible burden this is going to be for our nation. People may actually have to use cheesy bronzers! Think about it: a nation of orange hued people! It's a national tragedy! [/sarcasm]

[roadrunner]

Originally Posted by SeanL

Tanning salons... really? LOL! Oh what a terrible burden this is going to be for our nation. People may actually have to use cheesy bronzers! Think about it: a nation of orange hued people! It's a national tragedy! [/sarcasm]

Is that all you got lefty? Your only retort is to the tanning salon taxes? You dont care that this is a form of higher taxes that will be passed on to the Upper class, middle class on down? If you think that only the upper class goes to a tanning salon that will make it clear you are devoid of any objectivity. Once again you miss the entire point because you are too afraid to address the lies and propaganda by your man BHO and the dem party has been trying to get past the American people over the last 4 years to cover up their incompetence. Those lies and propaganda include, among many others, their claim that there are no taxes in Obamacare as well as their claim they haven't raised taxes on the middle class on down. As a narcisist in chief BHO once again shows he is unwilling to accept the blame for being wrong. Are you honest enough to admit he was wrong here? I doubt it

[SeanL]

Originally Posted by roadrunner

Is that all you got lefty? Your only retort is to the tanning salon taxes? You dont care that this is a form of higher taxes that will be passed on to the Upper class, middle class on down? If you think that only the upper class goes to a tanning salon that will make it clear you are devoid of any objectivity. Once again you miss the entire point because you are too afraid to address the lies and propaganda by your man BHO and the dem party has been trying to get past the American people over the last 4 years to cover up their incompetence. Those lies and propaganda include, among many others, their claim that there are no taxes in Obamacare as well as their claim they haven't raised taxes on the middle class on down. As a narcisist in chief BHO once again shows he is unwilling to accept the blame for being wrong. Are you honest enough to admit he was wrong here? I doubt it

LOL!

[SeanL]

Originally Posted by roadrunner

So, you think proposing something and passing something is the same thing, huh.

So the mere act of passing something makes it communist? That's is the most brain dead logic I have ever encountered. That is what is called cognitive dissonance.

[roadrunner]

Originally Posted by SeanL

So the mere act of passing something makes it communist? That's is the most "" logic I have ever encountered. That is what is called cognitive dissonance.

I never called it Communist, those are your accusatory words. Yet once again the lefty cant get his facts straight. I want you to go back and find where i used the Communist word in my logic....you wont find it. no doubt that you have trouble with reading comprehension to even try to understand my logic so I'm guessing you won't retract your ridiculous personal attack on my logic represented by "" above.