Official Game 6 thread: Dallas @ Houston

[TVI]

Originally posted by: GP
Isn't there a primal scream thread or something so these guys can vent there.

Maybe the new saying should be don't feed the homer.

Rockets played better than Mavs. The end.

Yea, you're right GP. I'm done trying to talk any sense into Junior. Let him rant all he wants.

G'Night guys. Mavs in 7.

[BSRefs]

Originally posted by: dude1394
Listen dimwit, quit using four letter words when addressing me. If you are too immature to post without cussing, go post on clutchcity or something.

The only person that is refusing to accept anything is yourself. Just because you think it's true doesn't mean it's true.

Pot meet kettle "dimwit". You don't want me cursing, don't throw insults at me. I'd be more then happy to engage in conversation with you without profanities, but not unless you don't stop using insults. Now I aplogize for cursing, that is inappropriate and violates the standards of this board, i am sorry. I am very very upset right now, so please excuse my language.

[twelli]

Originally posted by: MaverickFFL
is it just me, or did anyone else want to blast Jon Barry in the head with a fucking shotgun? or did anyone want to give Sura a bruised body after he knocked down Howard?

man I know i'm drunk but god dammit i'm fucking tired of this scripted nba bullshit and the refs you idiots should have worn damn rockets jerseys you *(#$&#*(&$*(#&$*(#$&

I wouldn't describe it the way you do but surely Barry annoys the hell out of me

and that goes for Sura and T-Mac as well (although his shots are just pure awesome)

and of course add to the list Mutombo, yeah, he really annoys the hell out of me....

[twelli]

after the first two losses I predicted that the Mavs win three in a row, lose the one in Houston and win the last at home

well, that's exactly what's going to happen.

[nuggien]

[dude1394]

Say what is the deal with no pick and rolls this series? In years past dirk would pick and roll to get someone else on him? Why is that not even being attempted in this series? Is McGrady not coming off dirk? I don't get it?

[ocelot_ark]

Originally posted by: nuggien

Sometimes...when you don't have any talent...well...that's your only hope.

[mercury_rev]

Originally posted by: twelli
after the first two losses I predicted that the Mavs win three in a row, lose the one in Houston and win the last at home

well, that's exactly what's going to happen.

Gameday thread starter for Game 7??

[chumdawg]

Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC
Thank the good Lord for consistency.

Whoops. Keke, since I know for a fact that you are the fourth-smartest poster on this forum, I'm surprised that you failed to detect the sarcasm.

[BSRefs]

Originally posted by: dude1394
Say what is the deal with no pick and rolls this series? In years past dirk would pick and roll to get someone else on him? Why is that not even being attempted in this series? Is McGrady not coming off dirk? I don't get it?

I concur, see my thread on "coaching for game 7"

[BSRefs]

Originally posted by: nuggien

Did they call a foul on that one?

[ocelot_ark]

Originally posted by: BSRefs

Did they call a foul on that one?

Did you even WATCH THE GAME?

[MaverickFFL]

Yeah they called a foul on that one

I'm willing to bet the ref that blew the whistle was the one NOT being paid off

[nuggien]

maybe it's just me, but josh howard and marquis daniels look like the ugliest guys in the league. They're pretty much on sam cassell's level.

[twelli]

Originally posted by: mercury_rev

Gameday thread starter for Game 7??

Well, the game 7 thread has been started already by a wise man with vision...

so that is taken care of

btw, I think the turning point of this game was Dirk missing the three point shot from top of the ark

what could have been a 1-point deficit became a 7-point deficit with McGrady's ensuing 3-pointer and from there it was all downhill

in the next game we have to make those big shots, it's as simple as that

[EricaLubarsky]

Originally posted by: twelli

Well, the game 7 thread has been started already by a wise man with vision...

woman

[BSRefs]

Originally posted by: ocelot_ark

Did you even WATCH THE GAME?

Wow, sarcasm?

[chumdawg]

Originally posted by: dirno2000 You used the term All World player, well how much do you have to do to get an All World player to shoot 50% in a game? In my mind an All World player destroys one on one coverage and carves the defense up when they try to double him. I also think he's all world, but he's not playing like it. The NFL is a coaches league…the NBA is a players league. Winning in the playoffs is usually about your star players raising their games to another level. Like Doug Collins said a couple of games ago “great players make adjustments useless”

D2K, this is what worries me. I worry that you are exactly right, that the NBA is a players league, and that Dirk Nowitzki was a product of Nellie's mad schemery. Who else wanted him in the draft? (Besides Pitino, and where is he now?) Who else would have commited so many resources to developing him like Nellie did? I worry that Drik is a coach's player in a player's league. I worry that he thrived in a system that Nellie built expressly for him, and that he looks ordinary--which is to say, and this is the important point--defendable, in a conventional setup.

I've seen what Dirk Nowitzki has to offer. I've seen his strengths, and--all too lately--I've seen his weaknesses. I'm inclined to want a coach that can make the fullest use of what he brings to the court.

[ocelot_ark]

Originally posted by: nuggien
maybe it's just me, but josh howard and marquis daniels look like the ugliest guys in the league. They're pretty much on sam cassell's level.

Hey, Rockets fan. We know who you are. F*CK OFF. There's an entire thread devoted to this topic over at the bitchfest. If you haven't noticed...Brent Barry's nose is actually BIGGER than his head. I won't even start on his obvious need to emerge from the closet.

[dude1394]

Originally posted by: nuggien
maybe it's just me, but josh howard and marquis daniels look like the ugliest guys in the league. They're pretty much on sam cassell's level.

Great thanks for being rude and ignorant.

Now don't get your panties all up in a wad about being called ignorant. You just called two human beings a pretty rude deal.

[dude1394]

Okay so why no pick and rolls? I still cannot believe that AJ doesn't know what a pick and roll is. Or forcing a switch is?

[MavKikiNYC]

Originally posted by: chumdawg

Whoops. Keke, since I know for a fact that you are the fourth-smartest poster on this forum, I'm surprised that you failed to detect the sarcasm.

And I thought it was mere self-parody. My bad.

[MaverickFFL]

Originally posted by: nuggien
maybe it's just me, but josh howard and marquis daniels look like the ugliest guys in the league. They're pretty much on sam cassell's level.

Bonzi Wells???

Darius Miles??

Jon Barry??

Calvin Booth???

Vlade Divac??? dude looks like a dead fish

Mike Dunleavy?? mofo looks like the Scream mask

Slava Medvedenko?? possibly one of the ugliest people ever... the dude looks like a damn caveman.. Mesopotamia anyone? he used to live there

[capitalcity]

Originally posted by: ocelot_ark

Hey, Rockets fan. We know who you are. F*CK OFF. There's an entire thread devoted to this topic over at the bitchfest. If you haven't noticed...Brent Barry's nose is actually BIGGER than his head. I won't even start on his obvious need to emerge from the closet.

I'm not trying to be a homer or anything, but Marquis and Josh are two sexy sonsuvabitches.

Handsome, handsome men. GQ material... really, goodlooking guys. Hot guys. Some really, really hot wild and crazy guys. Two very fine, pretty like models type of men. Sexy. Chocolate. HOT. Men.

By the way who one the game? I was too busy thinking about all the sexy, sexy looking Mavericks out there tonight. Damn we're some choice pieces of ass.... especially Josh.

[rabbitproof]

That 4thQ was atrocious.

I'm not even going to count on Dirk in Game7. He's our franchise guy and all that but for whatever reason, be it being defended by McGrady or battling Yao on the other end of the court, the Dirk we know and love is just MIA. I also recall atleast two instances in the 2nd half where Dirk looks for refs, starts making hand signals for penalities WHILE play is continuing. That's just horrible.

Let's leave the refs out of it. Let's leave playoff history out of it. Let's leave home vs road out of it.

It's one for all the marbles.

If Dirk shows, he shows but THE COMPANY has to step it up and win Game 7.

[chumdawg]

Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC

And I thought it was mere self-parody. My bad.

I guess that's oh-for-two. Shoot your way out of the slump, big man. I know you have it in you.

[MavKikiNYC]

Originally posted by: chumdawg

I guess that's oh-for-two. Shoot your way out of the slump, big man. I know you have it in you.

So you wanna try to reconcile your opinions?

You still wanna argue that small-ball is working? Exactly what would Nellie be doing different?

Maybe we should save it for another thread, in case things slow down around here soon.

[capitalcity]

rabbitproof ...the Dirk we know and love is just MIA. I also recall atleast two instances in the 2nd half where Dirk looks for refs, starts making hand signals for penalities WHILE play is continuing. That's just horrible.

Dirk does this more than people realize... Often he'll follow his tantrums with retaliatory slap fouls on the other end just so he can stop play and bitch to the refs some more.

It's stuff like this that make me question Dirk... He still doesn't realize the game is what HE makes of it. FORCE YOUR WILL on them Dirk.

[nuggien]

Originally posted by: capitalcity

I'm not trying to be a homer or anything, but Marquis and Josh are two sexy sonsuvabitches.

Handsome, handsome men. GQ material... really, goodlooking guys. Hot guys. Some really, really hot wild and crazy guys. Two very fine, pretty like models type of men. Sexy. Chocolate. HOT. Men.

By the way who one the game? I was too busy thinking about all the sexy, sexy looking Mavericks out there tonight. Damn we're some choice pieces of ass.... especially Josh.

[ocelot_ark]

Congratulations. You've mastered the use of pointless posting.

[chumdawg]

Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC

So you wanna try to reconcile your opinions?

You still wanna argue that small-ball is working? Exactly what would Nellie be doing different?

Maybe we should save it for another thread, in case things slow down around here soon.

You're probably right that we should save it for another thread. My argument, though, will be that Avery is ill-equipped to coach small-ball, which indeed would be working. My other argument, which has been consistent while often shrouded in sarcasm, is that Avery naively tried to impose a rigid "system" upon his team, when the situation confronting him required far, far better than that. To his credit he recognized that his vision was doomed to failure, but at that point it was too late.

For a quick answer to the question of what would Nellie be doing differently: scoring more than 13 in the fourth--or even any eight-minute span, for that matter. For a longer answer, I'll wait for the future discussion.

[ZueriMav]

Wow, what a frustrating loss!

Some positives for game 7:

Fri 2 Mai 2003 @ Portland First Round L 103 - 125 3-3
Sun 4 Mai 2003 Portland First Round W 107 - 95 4-3

Blowout loss in Game 6, do you see the pattern?
Game 7???

So, have to work now ;-(

[MavKikiNYC]

For a quick answer to the question of what would Nellie be doing differently: scoring more than 13 in the fourth--or even any eight-minute span, for that matter. For a longer answer, I'll wait for the future discussion.

Interesting.

But I believe Nellie's last scored basket came in 1976-- I may actually even have seen it.

Sarcasm though can at most only account for one of the divergent observations you offer.

To be continued after the season.

[Samurai]

As usual, I don't know what all of the moaning and groaning is about. Unrealistic expectations resulting from a team that has been overhyped in Dallas. We were supposed to win 4 in a row with Houston playing at home? I see two evenly matched (non-championship calibre) teams. Would say that we are now pretty much on schedule. 7 games to finish off Houston sounds about right to me. Puts us in position for a fateful 2nd round against Phoenix. Don't think that either Dallas or Phoenix has much of a chance against San Antonio, though. Another Duncan ankle sprain might help, but Detroit would still be awaiting the winner.

[ocelot_ark]

Originally posted by: Samurai
As usual, I don't know what all of the moaning and groaning is about. Unrealistic expectations resulting from a team that has been overhyped in Dallas. We were supposed to win 4 in a row with Houston playing at home? I see two evenly matched (non-championship calibre) teams. Would say that we are now pretty much on schedule. 7 games to finish off Houston sounds about right to me. Puts us in position for a fateful 2nd round against Phoenix. Don't think that either Dallas or Phoenix has much of a chance against San Antonio, though. Another Duncan ankle sprain might help, but Detroit would still be awaiting the winner.

Unrealistic expectations? To finish a series in 6 instead of 7 is unrealistic? Give me a break.

[chumdawg]

Originally posted by: MavKikiNYC

Interesting.

But I believe Nellie's last scored basket came in 1976-- I may actually even have seen it.

Sarcasm though can at most only account for one of the divergent observations you offer.

To be continued after the season.

I (sincerely) hope our discussion hasn't been reduced to that level. Roll the ball out and watch them play?

[nuggien]

Originally posted by: ocelot_ark
Congratulations. You've mastered the use of pointless posting.

and I see you also contributed with this post.

[kingrex]

Only those who underestimated this Rockets team should be disappointed that this has gone to a 7th game. Dallas played well up until the middle of the 4th quarter. So, Rockets fans shouldn't get too cocky either. The Rockets did what any good team does which is fight elimination on their home court, and now Dallas will do the same at home.

As for Dirk, he is an awesome player who has had a bad offensive series. I wouldn't have believed that he would shoot this badly for six games either until I analyzed this series more closely. Dirk is a coach-pleaser. When Nellie was coach, he emphasized offense, and you could see that in Dirk's play. Now that Avery is coach, defense is stressed, and Dirk puts his emphasis on that part of the floor as well. The result is what you get in this game; 5 blocks and doube-digit rebounds. Dirk is playing defense, and subsequently his offense has suffered.

In Game 7, Dirk needs to exert more effort offensively. He needs to play like the superstar he is at the offensive end. Dampier and the others need to be the ones who step up defensively. Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to say that Dirk needs to stop playing defense, but I think he really needs to concentrate most of his energy on scoring.

So, kudos to the Rockets for game 6, but Dallas will win game 7.

[ocelot_ark]

Originally posted by: nuggien

and I see you also contributed with this post.

[nuggien]

Tracy lets Finley know how many games the mavs will win in this series.