Mavs off-season and draft 2023 thread - Page 17 - Dallas-Mavs.com Forums

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-05-2023, 11:28 AM

Gets spicier...

https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/sta...50059420471300

tap2390 · 06-05-2023, 12:08 PM

IMO Kyrie knows Lebron isn't coming to Dallas. So why do this? Probably to incentivize LAL to pay up for him.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-05-2023, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

IMO Kyrie knows Lebron isn't coming to Dallas. So why do this? Probably to incentivize LAL to pay up for him.

Yep which is why the timing of this makes no sense.

But it's a good clue that Kyrie will only play where Lebron plays so...

EricaLubarsky · 06-05-2023, 12:15 PM

Silas to Pistons

That stings

sig · 06-05-2023, 12:39 PM

Just get JJB before Boston does when they fill out their staff. If the Mavs want another vet coach, I'd dump one of the other assts. and bring on Luke Walton. I have a feeing that JJ might be a solid coach and will at least get in a players face when they do something wrong.

Dtownsfinest · 06-05-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BPo001

FFS. Please no.

You wouldn't want LeBron?

Dtownsfinest · 06-05-2023, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

IMO Kyrie knows Lebron isn't coming to Dallas. So why do this? Probably to incentivize LAL to pay up for him.

How does Kyrie get to LA with them having to pay Reeves and Rui though?

SMC0007 · 06-05-2023, 04:12 PM

Rumor- JVG wanted by Mavs to join coaching staff. I've really wanted him but asking him to play 2nd fiddle is laughable. Keep dreaming Cubes.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-05-2023, 07:30 PM

Reality is the Lakers don't want to give us anything we want, and we don't have anything they want.

So Kyrie signs here for near max or he signs there for peanuts.

And Stein says Kyrie wants to stay. Stein is the most reliable Mavs source there is.

Murphy3 · 06-05-2023, 07:35 PM

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You wouldn't want LeBron?

I?d hate to have that idiot on the team.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-05-2023, 08:18 PM

Mavs fans: We need talent and superstars around Luka

Also fans: I hate Lebron.

SMC0007 · 06-05-2023, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Mavs fans: We need talent and superstars around Luka

Also fans: I hate Lebron.

This Lebron fad will run its course soon. But not soon enough.

EricaLubarsky · 06-05-2023, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Mavs fans: We need talent and superstars around Luka

Also fans: I hate Lebron.

Does Luka/Kyrie/LeBron/Bertans/Powell get it done? What about if the rest of the roster is undrafted/guys on minimum contracts?

There is almost no situation in which he doesn't cost us Green, Hardy, #10, and the only other FRP we have that we can trade.

If that team doesn't get to the WCF/finals, then it implodes and imploding with no assets is the worst.

LeBron is talented even at 38/39 is solid, but it's not about his talent-- it's about what he costs us and what else we have on that roster.

BPo001 · 06-05-2023, 10:35 PM

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You wouldn't want LeBron?

No. Considering a what we would have to give up for him plus the fact that he?s 39 years old. I?d rather not mortgage the future for 1-2 years of Lebron.

dirt_dobber · 06-06-2023, 04:17 AM

Seeing the Suns and other teams adding significant assistant coaches
while we stand pat.
Did we have any assistant leave to have an opening?
I wish Kidd had a strong ex-head coach in his ear - often!

Melonhead · 06-06-2023, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SMC0007

Rumor- JVG wanted by Mavs to join coaching staff. I've really wanted him but asking him to play 2nd fiddle is laughable. Keep dreaming Cubes.

The organization is so embarrassing.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-06-2023, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by dirt_dobber

Seeing the Suns and other teams adding significant assistant coaches
while we stand pat.
Did we have any assistant leave to have an opening?
I wish Kidd had a strong ex-head coach in his ear - often!

Nobody wants to work under Kidd.

sig · 06-06-2023, 09:40 AM

I'd trade THJ, Bertans, and a SnT Wood for Lebron. No young players or picks. Let Lebron play out his deal for a year then i think he can opt out and sign MLE or something. Even then, I might go be a Wemby fan in San antonio before I could root for a team with Lebron. I expect he prefers to sit in the first row of USC basketball games anyway.

tap2390 · 06-06-2023, 10:27 AM

There's literally no chance Lebron leaves LA. In retrospect, this seems like it's coming from Lebron's camp to influence LAL offseason moves. Lebron wants another ring, but he wants it in LA.

SMC0007 · 06-06-2023, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

There's literally no chance Lebron leaves LA. In retrospect, this seems like it's coming from Lebron's camp to influence LAL offseason moves. Lebron wants another ring, but he wants it in LA.

Right

purplefrog · 06-06-2023, 12:50 PM

I would welcome LeBron if you could get him for THJ, Bertrans, Bullock, and McGee... but you are not going get LeBron for THJ, Bertrans, Bullock, and McGee...so??????

EricaLubarsky · 06-06-2023, 02:21 PM

Cato says we are almost 100% going to trade the pick

He doubts we can or should get Lebron

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-06-2023, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Cato says we are almost 100% going to trade the pick.

Silly FO never learns.

Melonhead · 06-06-2023, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EricaLubarsky

Cato says we are almost 100% going to trade the pick

Fart noises

Dallas41 · 06-06-2023, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Silly FO never learns.

Si.com had an article written about this as well

I think they have to make a trade to get instant help for Luka and kyrie

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-06-2023, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Si.com had an article written about this as well

I think they have to make a trade to get instant help for Luka and kyrie

The reactions by fans when that 10th pick hits for another team...

saclare · 06-06-2023, 04:19 PM

I think it's foolish to trade the pick, but I reserve the right to reassess pending what it could actually bring back in a trade. I just think having another young core piece outweighs anyone we can get here solely with it. Mavs will likely desperately include Hardy/Green and/or the other future available 1st and it will be maddening.

SMC0007 · 06-06-2023, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by saclare

I think it's foolish to trade the pick, but I reserve the right to reassess pending what it could actually bring back in a trade. I just think having another young core piece outweighs anyone we can get here solely with it. Mavs will likely desperately include Hardy/Green and/or the other future available 1st and it will be maddening.

100%. Long as it's for an obvious clear upgrade that isnt a year or 2 from retirement or decline.

It seemed like a no-brainer right after the season, but after looking at all the picks we owe, it makes sense to use #10

tap2390 · 06-06-2023, 04:49 PM

No problem with trading the pick as long we get/buy A pick to at least take a shot on a 3/4 year guy later in the draft -- Sasser, TJD, etc.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-06-2023, 05:32 PM

Well we just had a team full of vets that didn't do shit. We don't have the assets to get the more talented vets we desperately need. You can maybe get one if you give up everything.

So your other avenue is young talent. We can turn pick 10 into multiple young assets with some effort or just pick it.

And for the umteenth time, Hardy came on in half a season.

Dallas41 · 06-06-2023, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DevinHarriswillstart

Well we just had a team full of vets that didn't do shit. We don't have the assets to get the more talented vets we desperately need. You can maybe get one if you give up everything.

So your other avenue is young talent. We can turn pick 10 into multiple young assets with some effort or just pick it.

And for the umteenth time, Hardy came on in half a season.

I don't think you can reasonably compare guys like myles Turner, Siakam, Anouby or Grant to any current vets on this roster right now

Those types of guys are far better than the likes of kleber, Bullock, THJ or Powell

So it's not the same IMO

BTW has anyone taken Luka into account here?

I believe getting instant help has more to do with what Luka and kyrie has discussed with management

I'm pretty sure those two guys have provided their input into this thought process.

Sure we can look at it from a fan perspective and think long term

But are we sure Luka is thinking long term or right now

Dallas41 · 06-06-2023, 06:45 PM

Should the Dallas Mavericks sign Jakob Poetl?
Mavericks Twitter was buzzing this weekend as a fan reportedly talked with Jakob Poeltl at the FIBA 3X3 World Cup in his hometown of Vienna, Austria.

This fan's claims should have MFFLs excited about his upcoming free agency.

The fan told Poeltl that they'd love to have him in Dallas, and 7'1 big man replied that he would be open to it and he "likes the team." Regardless of if this Reddit user is telling the truth or not, Dallas should look into the possibility of bringing in Poeltl in free agency.

Poeltl averaged 12.5 points, 9.1 rebounds, 2.7 assists, 1.2 steals, and 1.3 blocks per game last season and was playing some of his best basketball. He is one of the market's top free-agent centers, and Dallas should look into bringing him in.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-06-2023, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I don't think you can reasonably compare guys like myles Turner, Siakam, Anouby or Grant to any current vets on this roster right now

Those types of guys are far better than the likes of kleber, Bullock, THJ or Powell

So it's not the same IMO

BTW has anyone taken Luka into account here?

I believe getting instant help has more to do with what Luka and kyrie has discussed with management

I'm pretty sure those two guys have provided their input into this thought process.

Sure we can look at it from a fan perspective and think long term

But are we sure Luka is thinking long term or right now

None of those guys are available! Not for what we have at least.

Dallas41 · 06-06-2023, 10:29 PM

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None of those guys are available! Not for what we have at least.

Some of those guys may not require more than one 1st round pick

But if the mavs play their cards right I think they can get Ayton for just Wood and Green.

Draft Hendricks at 10 and sign Dillon Brooks to replace Green.

Now your rolling out a lineup of Ayton, Hendricks, Brooks, Luka and Kyrie

Your adding both size and defense to your front court without giving up the pick.

Melonhead · 06-07-2023, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

I don't think you can reasonably compare guys like myles Turner, Siakam, Anouby or Grant to any current vets on this roster right now

Those types of guys are far better than the likes of kleber, Bullock, THJ or Powell

So it's not the same IMO

BTW has anyone taken Luka into account here?

I believe getting instant help has more to do with what Luka and kyrie has discussed with management

I'm pretty sure those two guys have provided their input into this thought process.

Sure we can look at it from a fan perspective and think long term

But are we sure Luka is thinking long term or right now

Pointless to include any of those guys besides Turner as they aren?t available, not for what the Mavs can offer.

DevinHarriswillstart · 06-07-2023, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dallas41

Some of those guys may not require more than one 1st round pick

But if the mavs play their cards right I think they can get Ayton for just Wood and Green.

Draft Hendricks at 10 and sign Dillon Brooks to replace Green.

Now your rolling out a lineup of Ayton, Hendricks, Brooks, Luka and Kyrie

Your adding both size and defense to your front court without giving up the pick.

So you're arguing left and right to trade the pick to get Luka help...but now we keep the pick and get Ayton for Wood and Green?

And then sign Brooks with what cap space again?

tap2390 · 06-07-2023, 10:02 AM

Random trade thought:

Kerr just publicly threw Kuminga under the bus on Draymond's podcast.

Javale & #10 for Kuminga? Does GSW include #19 in such a deal? Draft TJD at 19 and boom:

Luka
Kyrie
Green
Kuminga
TJD

saclare · 06-07-2023, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tap2390

Random trade thought:

Kerr just publicly threw Kuminga under the bus on Draymond's podcast.

Javale & #10 for Kuminga? Does GSW include #19 in such a deal? Draft TJD at 19 and boom:

Luka
Kyrie
Green
Kuminga
TJD

Well, I wouldn't give up #10 just for Kuminga...

EricaLubarsky · 06-07-2023, 12:12 PM

I?m not sure I?d do a late first or second rounder for Kuminga.

A mid-late lottery for him? Unless you?re sending the first to shed salary in which case McGee is only an MLE and we could shed more salary for a high FRP

BPo001 · 06-07-2023, 02:25 PM

I?m not giving up #10 for Kum Bucket